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"They told me this moning," said Lewis, before the Indians played San Diego later today. "I think a lot of it had to do with how I pitched in September and how I've pitched this spring."

As opposed to?

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I still have pretty high hopes for Laffey and am not opposed to having him put it together in Columbus. I’m honestly intrigued to see if Lewis can put together sustained success at the big league level.

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 12:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my cheat sheet for watching Lewis is:

  1. not allow an obscene number of HRs (his 4 in 24 innings last year was right on the cusp), and
  2. minimize the damage from those HRs (keep his BB% in the 5-8 range, and his K% +15)

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dead-on

Stuart Dean

by stuart dean on Mar 25, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can you please restate these “keys to the game” in Foxspeak? I have trouble deciphering these complicated concepts with all these fancy numbers.

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Foxtranslation would be:

  1. keep the ball in the park
  2. keep guys off base

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At which point they pretty much are the keys for everybody

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which means you’ve translated it perfectly.

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still too specific.

1. No home runs!
2. Do what it takes to win.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Indians’ 2009 motto should be “Remember first four games of ’07 ALCS”

by Buckeye Brad on Mar 25, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s more like it.

how about:
Throw baseballs, not balls.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throw bases! Wait, no…

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Mar 25, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Win for 9 innings… No, 8… No, wait, 9…

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Total Joe Morgan Rec

by gte619n on Mar 26, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yours doesn’t rhyme.

by FredOx on Mar 25, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hello APV,

As Wedge said when Sowers, LaPorta, and Brantley were sent down a day or two ago, it’s likely Laffey will still factor into the 2009 rotation, since it’s more than the 25-man roster that will likely contribute to the Indians’ season.

I think Lewis has been more consistent than Laffey, though Laffey has come on strong of late, and the Indians likely want to make sure Laffey is “right” before they put him back in the ML rotation.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Mar 25, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m fine with this.

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Washington Court House rejoices.

by ClarkM on Mar 25, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m very happy with this decision. Laffey will get a chance later though I’m still nowhere near sold on him.

by mjschaefer on Mar 25, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let’s be honest, Laffey may get his chance sooner.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Between Reyes, Pavano and Lewis, it seems like Laffey will be back with the big league club by May 1, right?

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get my first hand look at Pavano today…

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh, that’s right. You should lug in a laptop and router and live blog it.

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not going to happen, but I’ll join the gamethread shortly after the game

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

May 1 sounds about right. When did the FO pull the plug on Johnson and/or Elarton? With the guys we have in Columbus this year, I think the leash will be even shorter.

by millionairesrow on Mar 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They never pulled the plug on Elarton.

They dumped Johnson in mid-June, more because they didn’t like him than because of his performance.

Carmona was named the #6 starter in both 2006 and 2007. He got three April starts in 2006 and four in 2007.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I think this move makes it clearer that Pavano is indeed on a short leash.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m most happy because, based on the stellar analysis here, I had added Lewis as a bench starter in my fantasy league.

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

me too (DRINK)

by emil minty on Mar 25, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

drafted him in the LGT H2H /drink

by SanD on Mar 25, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So how do we line em up 1-5 to start? Here’s how I would:

1. Lee – L
2. Carmona – R
3. Reyes – R
4. Lewis – L
5. Pavano – R

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Note updated headline … Reyes has been put in the #5 spot so they can skip his turn now and then, give him some extra rest.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That makes sense, but are you getting this from anywhere, Jay?

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AP story.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, the article doesn’t clarify if they’ll skip the five starter every time or only as needed. Do we have an expectation about that?

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The version I saw was specific about that.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reyes will be moved to the fifth spot to give him time off at various points in the season. Reyes was shut down in September with a sore elbow, but has not had discomfort this spring.

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn. Was hoping he’d be a healthy contributor. I hope he goes Cliff Lee on everyone.

by mjschaefer on Mar 25, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“Damn?” He’s in the rotation, they just don’t want to push him.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well moving him to fifth because of the injury potential makes me think he’s not going to be consistently healthy. Maybe I read to much into it.

by mjschaefer on Mar 25, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This implies that the Indians know of a current problem, which I don’t think is right to assume.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(insert Chuck snark here)

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem they know of is that (1) he’s a pitcher and (2) with an injury history.

I don’t think it’s a question of whether he’s healthy, but rather, is there one guy out of these five that we’d like to be able to skip a start?

I just spent a couple minute looking at the early schedule, and I don’t see how they’re going to skip him more than once in April, possibly not at all in May. So we shouldn’t overstate the significance of this move.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus his delivery doesn’t do him any favors, so injury history aside he’s still a higher than average injury risk.

Carmona for Cy Young 2009

by danvail on Mar 25, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just spent a couple minute looking at the early schedule, and I don’t see how they’re going to skip him more than once in April.

As indicated below, I count three times in April. I may be missing something. I’m really interested in this, there was a discussion of it in the White Sox section of B-Pro’s annual. Admittedly, I’m hopeful it won’t be Reyes we’re skipping after April. Anyway, here’s my breakdown:

6@Tex-1
7 OFF DAY
8 @Tex-2
9 @Tex-3
10 TOR-4
11 TOR-1
12 TOR-2
13 @KC-3
14 @KC-4
15 @KC-5
16 @NYY-1
17 @NYY-2
18 @NYY-3
19 @NYY-4
20 OFF DAY
21 KC-1
22 KC-2
23 KC-3
24 MIN-4
25 MIN-5
26 MIN-1
27 BOS-2
28 BOS-3
29 BOS-4
30 OFF DAY
May 1 @DET-1

Incidentally, I also count one time in May, during the KC series on 19-21.

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nyet. You have our #2, #3 and #4 starters pitching on short rest on April 12-14. That won’t happen.

They might do this:

6@Tex-1
7 OFF DAY
8 @Tex-2
9 @Tex-3
10 TOR-4
11 TOR-5
12 TOR-1
13 @KC-2
14 @KC-3
15 @KC-4
16 @NYY-5
17 @NYY-1
18 @NYY-2
19 @NYY-3
20 OFF DAY
21 KC-4
22 KC-1
23 KC-2
24 MIN-3
25 MIN-5
26 MIN-4
27 BOS-1
28 BOS-2
29 BOS-3
30 OFF DAY
May 1 @DET-4
2 @ DET-1
3 @ DET-2

The #5 spot is pushed back three days (from Apr 22 to Apr 25), which gives him extra rest and also lines him up for the next off-day.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew I was missing something which is why I was so adamant about posting my claim until you debunked it.

I think they’ll do what you posted.

And, thanks.

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

c’mon… It’s almost April. You’re better than this.

by gte619n on Mar 26, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funnily, I’m not.

by NickFantana on Mar 26, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

16 @NYY-5

Reyes vs. Sabathia. If this game has a post-season flavor to it, one of these guys has an advantage.

by SuddenSam on Mar 26, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one who started Game 1 of the World Series.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reyes has done that?! Man, you’d think this would get mentioned more often.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 26, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also learned recently that Pavano had some injuries with his last team.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But I bet you didn’t know Tom Mastny was born in Indonesia.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHAT?!?

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 28, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TROUT ARM.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 29, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First game at the new Yankee Stadium should give C.C. monster butterflies, no?

by JulioBernazard on Mar 26, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our rotation is our weakness, yet we like or #5 better than the Best Pitcher in the World in a big game on the road.

by SuddenSam on Mar 26, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s only the best pitcher in the NL. And therein lies the rub.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 26, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But surely a Top Three organization is not overpaying one of its players.

by SuddenSam on Mar 26, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because of the stupid opening week day off, they could actually skip the fifth starter his first time through which would have the added benefit of lining up 1-4 for the Yankees series. Then, they’ll have two more opportunities to skip the fifth starter in April.

I now see Jay has written that this will be Reyes, which was (seriously) going to be my suggestion.

So, we get to see Pavano pitch against the Yankees and we’ll have some idea by the end of the month if he’s any good.

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I think a lot of it had to do with how I pitched in September and how I’ve pitched this spring.”

After his 20th win:

“I think a lot of it had to do with how I allowed less runs than my team scored.”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You’re laughing at the obviousness, but the truth is that he’s mistaken. I’m sure the Indians are heavily considering how he pitched throughout 2008, which he basically excludes.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed…he pitched a lot better before being called up in September than he did in Cleveland. The results were good in Cleveland, obviously, but his success had a lot to do with luck.

by APV on Mar 25, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not saying he wasn’t great in September. I am saying that he he’d been mediocre prior to September, his great performances in September and March would not have won him this spot over Laffey.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

had he been mediocre … I need to eat something.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wonder what Pavano’s quote will be when he gets demoted…

“Yeah, all that stuff about cracking under the pressure of Yankee stadium was hooey.”

by Thommy on Mar 25, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2004 draft

6 – Jeremy Sowers
77 – Scott Lewis
107 – Chuck Lofgren

19th – Chris Gimenez
24th – Wyatt Toregas
45th – Tony Sipp

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

waves of arm

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Indians only draft white guys.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Socrates won’t even talk about him.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

305 hits when I searched FB for “Will Hartley.”

by spreidel on Mar 25, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Among his friends: Bear Bay.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 25, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

without logging in, I see a guy named C.C. and a chick with the last name LaPorta.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t go past the first page.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know how I feel about this.

So 2009.

by Gradyforpresident on Mar 25, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, you get back to us about that. Take your time.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Here’s how I feel – the idea that a rotation has five members is wrong, especially when you’re talking about guys like Laffey, Lewis and Sowers. You name the first five, not the Final Five.

by FredOx on Mar 25, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Does this mean Scott Lewis is Laffey’s father?

by Voltaire on Mar 25, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that’s Saul Tigh.

by FredOx on Mar 25, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can we give Pronk a little “resurrection” treatment?

by DontCallMeJoey on Mar 25, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he caught for the Rangers ….

by talonk on Mar 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SLEWWWWWWWWW

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Are you talking about the Jesuit school in St. Louis?

by ClarkM on Mar 25, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

St. Louis University, or SLU, is often referred to as “SLU”, pronounced “SLOOO”, same as “SLEWWW”

by Ryan Kelsey on Mar 25, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A fine institution

by Roger Dorn on Mar 25, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for Larry Hughes.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Very cool. The guy who performed best won the spot.

I’m going to have to tweak my FO-dar a wee bit, in the right direction.

by mcrose on Mar 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d take Laffey long-term but I’ve got no complaints about this.

by afh4 on Mar 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m with you. In 2008 I couldn’t imagine a rotation for 2009 that didn’t have a lot of Laffey. Based on that I’m surprised but not based on what’s developed this spring. Lewis certainly pitched like he should get a shot and Laffey will be in there shortly.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this news bodes well for Chulk.

Ben Francisco's only fan on LGT

by Toxicadam on Mar 25, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it’s gonna be Zachson. they can send Chulk to c-bus till like mid-may – so they should and probably will. then they can bring him up for Masa then.

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or sooner if need be.

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or then, then.

by NickFantana on Mar 25, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

finitely

by talonk on Mar 25, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Essentially, yes.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do I detect some equivocation in this statement?

by gte619n on Mar 26, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fundamentally, no.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 26, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keeping it warm for Jake

Hopefully Lewis and Reyes will be pitching so well the Tribe can take their time bringing Westbrook back in.

I expect to see Laffey soon due to Pavano’s delight with the DL.

by GenerationTribe on Mar 25, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Question: Do service time issues with Laffey come into consideration here at all?

So 2009.

by Gradyforpresident on Mar 25, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A little. I meant to comment on this earlier.

With pitchers, I think you worry a little more about arbitration than free agency, due to the high attrition rate. Laffey has 0 years, 147 days of service time, which makes him a free agent after 2014 — definitely not sooner and probably not later. If he doesn’t spend a little time in the minors, however, he’ll be a Super Two arbitration guy after 2010, i.e., going into the 2011 season. If he spends about five weeks in the minors this season, he’ll be out of that range, so it’s minimum salary for 2011. It matters only because (a) he’s so close to the cusp and (b) we seem to have other options.

Lewis is in a different situation, with just 22 days in. You really don’t worry about his free agency, because you’d be very lucky if he makes it that far in terms of durability. He’s looking at arbitration after 2011 (for 2012) if he sticks, and you’d have to keep him in the minors for a solid three months to push that back. If he’s one of your six best starters, you won’t artificially keep him out of the majors for three months.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

have i mentioned before, i love this stuff?

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. I wish you’d learn it, so I could stop writing about it.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i get lost at the super two stuff. the rest i get.

by Brick. on Mar 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, brick told me he learned it all but keeps asking you so that you feel smart.

by Thommy on Mar 25, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But he didn’t ask me.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

precisely. don’t misunderestimate his sneakiness.

by Thommy on Mar 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C’mon Jay, you LOVE writing about it.

Arbitration and Super Two, that’s your jam.

by gte619n on Mar 26, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So 2006.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 26, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neyer weighs in with his thoughts on Lewis (and prospect rankings):

In the new Baseball America Prospect Handbook, Scott Lewis comes in 21st among Cleveland’s prospects. In the new Baseball Prospect Book, John Sickels assigns a C+ grade to Lewis. Oddly, both books suggest that he might be good enough to pitch in the Indians’ rotation this season.

Maybe I’m missing something, but isn’t this one of those bird-in-the-hand sort of deals? Baseball America has nine pitchers ranked higher than Lewis. I know that potential’s important, too. But how many of those nine guys ahead of Lewis will wind up in a major league rotation, ever? I’m obviously biased, but I’d move Lewis up a dozen or so spots on that list, even if he can’t throw 90 miles an hour.

Which isn’t to say he’s going to be good in 2009. Based on what he did last year, though — from Double-A through four winning starts with the big club — he would seem to have a pretty decent shot. 90 or no 90.

And his thoughts on the Indians this year:

I like the Indians. I think they’re going win their division. But their No. 1 starter isn’t going to go 22-3 again, their No. 2 starter went 8-7 last year, and Nos. 3 through 5 are question marks wrapped in enigmas surrounded by conundrums. So at the very least, it should be an interesting spring and summer in Cleveland.

by Buckeye Brad on Mar 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The point he’s making about Lewis is the same one I’ve made repeatedly about Huff. I understand these guys are gaga for ceiling, but Huff already projects to be an average big-league starter right now.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stopped thinking of Lewis as a prospect and instead as a major leaguer (who might happen to be pitching in AAA) because of his 2008, but I agree completely regarding Huff.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because of his four starts in 2008? Well, that was probably premature.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, now that I think about it, Adam kind of had the same confusion.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully, that #2 starter Neyer mentions won’t go 8-7 again (hopefully, it’s more like 15+ wins) – that will help to negate any loss that Lee has this year, as I don’t think anyone can realistically expect him to go 22-3 again (heck, even Clemens, Pedro, Johnson, Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz couldn’t duplicate high numbers like that in back-to-back season – come close, yes, and hopefully, Lee will too, but not duplicate them. Likewise, Carmona will hopefully not “duplicate 2008,” but will moreless duplicate his 2007 season instead).

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Mar 25, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can’t criticize the rotation by saying “the #1 starter won’t go 22-3 again” while at the same time saying “the #2 starter was 8-7 last year.” Either 2008 performance is a predictor of 2009 results or it isn’t.

by FredOx on Mar 26, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now a bunch of Tribe fans are going, “Scott WHO?” And they’re picking up their Annual.

Also, this is what Kenny Roda is doing.

by tabler84 on Mar 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Or they’re writing letters to Hey Hoynsie.

by Buckeye Brad on Mar 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why didn’t we sign Pedro instead of letting this no-name pitch?

by Voltaire on Mar 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because Dolan’s a cheapskate.

"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."

by sarcasmdave on Mar 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This seems like a good spot to mention that I just stumbled onto Masa’s blurb today. Really good stuff Andrew.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 25, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those of us living in Columbus have known Scott Lewis for a long time.

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by emd2k3 on Mar 26, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

here ya go:

by Brick. on Mar 26, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My post should have been a response to Tabler’s comment, not some super savvy observation about where Scott Lewis pitched in college. But thanks for the cookie, even if it’s not the superior oatmeal raisin.

Frankly, I don't contribute much.

by emd2k3 on Mar 26, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i know. i even knew where it was supposed to go. just having fun with where it ended up.

by Brick. on Mar 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec for Oatmeal Raisin

by gte619n on Mar 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right now a bunch of Tribe fans are going, "Scott WHO?" And they’re picking up their Annual. Cursing those cheap Dolans for putting no-names on the roster.

  Fixed.

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by emd2k3 on Mar 26, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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