Game Thread: Indians vs. Giants, March 27

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:06 PM EDT

The Tribe plays a road game against some guys who may or may not play in San Francisco this year. Lineups per Castrovince:

INDIANS: CF Grady Sizemore, 3B Mark DeRosa, 1B Victor Martinez, SS Jhonny Peralta, C Kelly Shoppach, RF Ben Francisco, 2B Asdrubal Cabrera, LF Josh Barfield. LHP Cliff Lee.

Also available to pitch: RHPs Rafael Betancourt, Joe Smith, Jensen Lewis.

GIANTS: CF Andres Torres, LF Eugenio Velez, RF Nate Schierholtz, 3B Pablo Sandoval, 1B Rich Aurilia, SS Juan Uribe, C Buster Posey, 2B Kevin Frandsen. RHP Jonathan Sanchez.

With the exception of Barfield in the outfield, that's pretty much a regular lineup, with actual real-life major league pitchers. No DH, so no Hafner bloop doubles. Discuss.

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http://castrovince.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/03/miller_update_coming_soon.html

for those that haven’t heard. we might get an update mid-game from the broadcast, too.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions

confirmed in-game soloff press conference coming.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

oh boy

by Voltaire on Mar 27, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

please summarize!

by dgcambridge on Mar 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions

will do, when it happens.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

sizemore stranded.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions

hate Progressive.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions

by Voltaire on Mar 27, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions

these radio comercials.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Gameday link that I wonder why they don’t promote.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions

i’m getting sold on gameday mini

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Mini

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Yea, there’s a link to it from the normal one. I almost clicked it yesterday, and maybe I should’ve. It’s nice not having to exposé to it.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions

yes, mini is awesome. especially once they get consistent updates during the season.

by dgcambridge on Mar 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Ooh I like this.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Top of the 2nd: in-game presser with Soloff re Miller.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:14 PM EDT reply actions

oooh, i could really go for an “in-work presser”

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

even if it’s “you’re fired”?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

i’m trying to gutter-think on what a “presser” might be.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Whatever you’re gutter-thinking, I doubt you want it to be with Lonnie Soloff.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Top of the first summary:

Sizemore bunt single
SB, error allowing Grady to take 3rd
DeRosa GO
Martinez K
Peralta K

Sanchez gave up a lot of runs last year, but struck out a bunch of guys, too.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions

danke sehr

by Voltaire on Mar 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions

droobs boot.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions

Two singles, the second with runner on the move, puts runners on the corners. Then an Asdrubal error lets in a run. Still no outs.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions

“and the Indians look sloppy here in the bottom half of the first inning”

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions

This as an error by Barfield in LF lets in another run.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

sloppy presser?

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Stop it

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

impossible, once a presser gets going.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

More bad defense, as Barfield demonstrates why he came up as an infielder.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions

Aurilia wants no part of the offensive explosion.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

Grady wants no part of the defensive implosion.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

That’s probably more accurate.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions

“Mark on the way downstairs to get the update on Miller’s finger.”

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions

3-0 Giants on a liner down the right field line.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions

by JUAN URIBE!!?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Juan Uribe always kills us, doesn’t he?

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions

it seems that way. he’s on that list of “why throw this guy any strikes?” list. along with “OBP is overrated overrated” B-Phil

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

list

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

likeit.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

nice.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Umm yea, or it seems likeit.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Things are not always what they seem.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

yikes, look at that. it isn’t even close.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s funny though, if you look at 2007 he destroyed us. That must be what I’m remembering.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

pop-up. sandoval too fat to run on francisco’s arm

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:25 PM EDT reply actions

3 outs, woohoo. 4 hits & 2 errors lead to 3 Giants runs, boo.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Another popup for the third out. Giants spread the weath, hit one to each outfielder. Miller update coming up.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Correction Fred: Sanchez is a lefty.

Is this a lineup that will happen against lefties?

by dgcambridge on Mar 27, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions

(1) Blame Castro.
(2) No.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

But this could be where Barfield gets at-bats, no? Our other outfielders are lefties, unless you count Garko.

by dgcambridge on Mar 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

carroll?

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions

That would be another way to go against lefties. I wonder if, in that case, we’d have Carroll at 3rd and DeRosa in the OF.

by dgcambridge on Mar 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions

i had thought this to start the spring. then i thought, why not just have carroll play in the outfield then. then i thought…. wait, they’re trying garko out there, really?

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

True story: up until partway thru last year, I always thought he was a righty. Left is right, black is white.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

you’re on today.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I really did think that though.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

barfield

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions

not in the inning of current circumstance.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Shoppach: most

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions

half is not most.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

he took a wide turn around first

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 27, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions

but what if he usually takes wide turns around third, too…

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Shoppach with a double to left to start the second. Apparently the Giants’ spring training facility is cavernous.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions

Announcers lied – no Miller update yet, but I assume it is still coming.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:33 PM EDT reply actions

Soloff is busy on the phone with a guy named chuck.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Lee can’t retire the pitcher?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions

sanchez goes 1st to 3rd on the double. solid baserunning from the pitcher.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions

nice. garko woulda kept the double-r from going to second.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t know where he went, but Cliff Lee v. 2008 seems to be missing.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions

EXTEND HIM NOW CHEAPO DOLAN JERK

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions

CLIFFTON, dammit.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions

Woah, that was weird… at the precise time that gameday scrolled up, LGT scrolled down.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions

6-0

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

Not for long.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions

anyone got an anual handy?

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:42 PM EDT reply actions

yeah, i guess.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

what were Lee’s pitch selection percentages? not sure if that’ll be easy to post.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions

72% fast
10 curve
7 slide
11 change

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions

many thanks.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions

7-0. Aurilia wants in.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions

Miller

surgical option being put further away.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions

thrown every 3 days

progressed in accuracy and velocity

no pain, no less movement.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

adding slider off flat ground. continuing ramp-up.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions

any ETA?

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

great minds.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Remember, I’m Paul Hoynes, so watch yourself.

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

of sliders on flat ground?

i thought he said tomorrow.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

No. Like westy, I meant ETA for pitching in games. Sounds like that’s too far away.

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

things good.

not out of woods.

surgery may come back into picture.

may be setback when adding breaking pitches.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for giving us a detailed, play-by-play account of the presser

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Mar 27, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

combining index and middle tips of finger – new release point.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions

MILLER UPDATE:

Has thrown off the mound every 3 days, has progressed in velocity & accuracy.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions

Going to throw sliders on flat ground starting tomorrow.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions

any actual game ETA?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:48 PM EDT reply actions

none mentioned.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Saying he’s basically changed his release point to use his index & middle finger as opposed to just middle.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions

DeRosa double off the wall.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

I heart DeRosa

by Les Fleurs Du Mal on Mar 27, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions

I ♥ DeRosa, too.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:52 PM EDT reply actions

I hope you didn’t know the shortcut for that symbol off-hand.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s &hearts; so not too hard to remember.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

On the other hand, I ♣ this version of Cliff Lee.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:53 PM EDT reply actions

As long as he’s not ♠

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

so do the giants.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

The Giants ♥ Cliff because they can ♣ the ball all over the ♦

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs

yeah, rec.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions

and they’s doing it in ♠’s

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Our best commenters use suits.

by Logodaedalus on Mar 27, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs

Sanchez is no Andy Marte.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions

Lee realized we were mocking him with HTML character entities, decided to pitch better.

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions

Josh Barfield

pleased with amount of sucking so far.

no vibe on where he stands on 25th man spot.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions

feels he would barely take away from the team depending on where he is played in the field.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Suck (Barfield) ≈ Expected Suck (Barfield)

by FredOx on Mar 27, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Uh, subject line?

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions

i did it for a reason for miller for the in-game info. this was an in-game sound bite from barfield that i thought i’d have fun with.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions

jhonny OWNS arizona

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions

I wonder if he would pay my property taxes for me…

by Logodaedalus on Mar 27, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Peralta with a HR, continues to mash.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions

francisco K cereal

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:07 PM EDT reply actions

Cabrera with a double, almost caught at the fence.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Mar 27, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions

Barfieldian anticlimax.

by Logodaedalus on Mar 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions

So, they’re answering my question on the air.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions

…..and there’s no answer for it.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions

it was whether they knew if there was a face-batter or game action time-table.

they just reitrerated the next step – slider from flat ground this weekend.

he did ask soloff, but there just isn’t an answer yet. they’re taking it step by step.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for finding out.

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Also, Castro posted his update just now and promises more info on Indians.com

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions

i don’t know. barfield has not sounded impressive in the outfield. just had one get past him on what sounded like because of a bad route.

by Brick. on Mar 27, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions

That’s why we’ve got the slick-fielding Dave Dellucci around.

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Reyes with a quote that throws his old team under the bus.

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions

Please elaborate

Tribe in '09!!

by indiansfan20062000 on Mar 27, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions

He was asked if he was worried about making the team.

He said something to the effect of; Well, I’ve had a lot of strange things happen to me, so I didn’t want to take anything for granted.

by NickFantana on Mar 27, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Did Raffy get hurt or was he taken out because of ineffectiveness? I know in yesterdays game, he seemed to have tweaked a hammy…

Tribe in '09!!

by indiansfan20062000 on Mar 27, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions

Castro says they just wanted to give Smith a mid-inning situation

by APV on Mar 27, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope Wedge ripped into the team after the game today. Spring training is spring training, but they looked like one of the stalls at old Municipal at the end of a Browns game in the first inning. Lee was bad, but his team certainly wasn’t doing him any favors. And to his credit, Lee was getting a lot of swings and misses.

by APV on Mar 27, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions