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Left elbow soreness.

The article mentioned he may just DH for S. Korea or not play at all, but the decision is the Indians' to make.

The above is from the original AP report- found here.

CastroTurf says two things materially different:

1.) its Choo's triceps that is sore, not his surgically repaired elbow.

2.) It is Choo and the S. Korea team that has the final say, not the Indians.

""Right now, we're in the process of getting the complete info as to the problem he's encountered," general manager Mark Shapiro said this morning. "From there, we'll determine whether or not we object.""

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I really hope that the Indians let Choo play. I get the nervousness over having the pitchers go this early in the year and the injury risk. I just don’t like the over-protectiveness with position players. Let ‘em play. I think at this point, getting Choo AB’s in pressure situations is a good thing and can only help season him for the future. At least let him DH and not play the field.

Plus, this may be a great opportunity to get some type of Korean Army exemption.

And you know some marketing guy in the FO is drooling over the dream of Choo having a monster WBC and all the Korean fans it’ll create to buy Tribe gear.

Still the local "Barfield Bounces Back Believer" and confident that there's still a lot of Pronk in Hafner. Oh, and for all the love of Cliffy, there's still a Sleepy Kitten inside.

by mjmarble on Mar 4, 2009 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

The Tribe would only get 1/30 of whatever Korean fans buy. The teams split their share of uniform sales equally.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 4, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting. I did not know this.

by dgcambridge on Mar 5, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

The players also split their share equally — at least for guys who spend the full year in the majors. Mark DeRosa gets the same cut as Grady on the sale of a Grady jersey.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 5, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Aha, but this does not apply to my Team Thome™ or Omar Vizquel Apparel™ caps. (no joke)

by dgcambridge on Mar 5, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The left elbow is the TJ one.

Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.

by gte619n on Mar 4, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

I wasn’t going to say anything…

by Ryan Kelsey on Mar 4, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

ugh that’s what I was afraid of

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 4, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Castro now saying it is the left triceps, not the elbow, although the AP article he links to still says elbow.

by FredOx on Mar 4, 2009 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

I just saw that and updated the fanshot.

by Ryan Kelsey on Mar 4, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

(fingers crossed)

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Mar 4, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

left elbow and left tricep aren’t necessarily different, or at least unrelated, things

by APV on Mar 4, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I recall Jason Stanford had a “sore forearm” before TJ, and I swear I remember someone else with becip soreness that led to the same procedure.

In other words, anything awry between shoulder and wrist can mean elbow.

by mcrose on Mar 4, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

More quick notes from Castro:

  • Hafner will play Friday.
  • Wood is throwing another bull pen and then will play Tuesday.
  • Miller is Miller.

by Ryan Kelsey on Mar 4, 2009 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

TMI.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Mar 4, 2009 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

On a similar note, Weglarz will not likely see action until tomorrow because of his sore ankle. He is expected to start against the US this weekend.

by dgcambridge on Mar 4, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions  

the times is saying we filed a grievance to keep choo from playing:

by dwight on Mar 4, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the link. Now things are getting interesting.

I like this:

But Korean Manager In-Sik Kim said, "It’s the other part of the elbow where he has his pain."

by dgcambridge on Mar 4, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This makes me sad.

So 2009.

by Gradyforpresident on Mar 4, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Let’s hope Miller has no more problems after those 10 days are up (I know we’ve had similar wishes before, but we can hope, right?)

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Mar 4, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

You’d think that if Choo’s arm is sore (whether it’s the triceps, elbow, etc.) that it could affect his hitting; if he’s not able to hit effectively, why would South Korea even play him?

I could see him trying to play at first, but if he’s not that effective, I would think South Korea wouldn’t play him. I just hope Choo doesn’t further aggravate the injury if he does try to play.

One other thing: Isn’t it odd that the Indians don’t have the final say in whether Choo can play in the WBC – after all, the Indians are his employer, they’re the ones that have the money invested in him, and it’s the MLB season that is the primary season, not the WBC (with all due respect to those involved in the WBC). I know the WBC provides great pride to those who play in it, but wouldn’t the prudent thing be that, if you’re going to miss time, it would make more sense to miss the WBC, rather than try to play in it and possibly injuring yourself where you miss part of the MLB season, which is the primary goal?

Just a question to consider and my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Mar 4, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It seems unclear who has the final say. The Korean manager is quoted as saying the Indians have the final say. But, Castro made it sound like Choo and the Korean team had the final say. I think the Indians could have kept him off the roster, but they may not have the right to stop him from playing once he is on it.

by Ryan Kelsey on Mar 4, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I have the final say. I’m holding out for bulgogi, kimchi and maekju.

by FredOx on Mar 5, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Kimchi is some nasty nasty stuff (shudders) ….

by talonk on Mar 5, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s an acquired taste for the American palate, I think. And it has magical life-sustaining properties!

by cleveland teamer on Mar 5, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Visited Korea many times, and I will taste it out of respect of the people I am visiting … I just don’t like the taste.

The other stuff I can’t stand is the nasty smelling hot soup served with sticky rice.

Other than that I can tolrerate the rest of the food (minus sushi of course – that is not my thing). I just wish I could find some good Soju here in the states.

by talonk on Mar 5, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I would hope soju is better in Korea, because the stuff I had was terrible

by Roger Dorn on Mar 5, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s all pretty terrible.

Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.

by gte619n on Mar 5, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Comparable to sake …. so if you like sake, you may like soju

by talonk on Mar 5, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I had some Korean BBQ this past weekend. Really solid

by Roger Dorn on Mar 5, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This would be a lot more tolerable if he hurt his elbow punching a guy in the nose in a bar in De Land, Florida.

by odradek on Mar 4, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

We need a WBC thread at some point. O/T, but South Africa has a 16 year-old on their roster: Hein Robb.

by Voltaire on Mar 5, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

Yes, Weglarz about to tee off against Justin.

by dgcambridge on Mar 5, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

AAAAND……

Nick draws a walk. OK, that was the most likely pro-Tribe outcome. Actually, Joba has gone walk, single, walk (Nick), walk (run), walk (run).

And he’s been pulled, with the bases loaded and no outs. That’s what I think has happened (there’s no audio, just a box score. Also, it’s 2009).

by dgcambridge on Mar 5, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Outside of anything tribe-related, I don’t know if there is anything I am rooting for more than for Justin to suck this year.

by ClarkM on Mar 5, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t root for injuries, but I am rooting for him to be a head case.

by dgcambridge on Mar 5, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

They batted around +1 last inning. Wegz is set to lead off the next frame.

by jhon on Mar 5, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

NY Yankees    IP    H	R  ER  BB  SO  HR  ERA
Chamberlain   0.0   1	5  5   4   0   0   --

by FredOx on Mar 5, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wait, this is an exhibition game, right? The first real game is Saturday? Maybe I misread the schedule…

by Voltaire on Mar 5, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I see it is. Wegz draws another walk.

by Voltaire on Mar 5, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

And now a HBP. Three PAs, three times on base, no official at-bats.

by FredOx on Mar 5, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There was an article I think in the NY Post that said Justin would be opening the new stadium against the Tribe if the rotation slots the way they expect it to

by Roger Dorn on Mar 5, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Only the second most satisfying Yankee starter to beat as they open their new home.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 5, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

eh, it’s March baseball

by mpstable on Mar 5, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

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