Mujica to the Padres
Per Castro, Mujica has been traded to the Pads for a PTBNL or cash.
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He also just added a note to the same post that the waiver claim on Jae Kuk Ryu was voided & he’ll be going back to the Padres. Weird.
DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.
by zempf on Apr 1, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With a promise to do some investigative reporting!
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why bother? Hoynes will beat him to it.
I checked cleveland.com to see if Hoynes actually was reporting it, and he was. The funny thing is you don’t have to go more than four comments into the story to find a knock on the Dolans. Unreal.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Apr 1, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s consider the possibility that this is the least ambitious April Fool’s Day joke ever.
by dgcambridge on Apr 1, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Some crappy pitcher who we all knew would be DFA’d got traded.. no wait, April Fools!
Some other crappy pitcher we picked up off waivers got returned to the Padres.. no wait, April Fools!
Yeah.. it’s not really doing it for me.
DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.
by zempf on Apr 1, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to an unknown source, Grady Sizemore was recently traded to the Yankees for their AAA team. Full details are unknown, but it appears that this is the first ever trade where a MLB club has traded their affiliation with a minor league team for a player.
"...leading the league in most offensive categories. Including nose hairs."
by sarcasmdave on Apr 1, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bastard.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerk used a TinyURL, too, so I actually clicked on it.
by FredOx on Apr 1, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you get rickrolled?
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Apr 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not technically, but only because I am somewhere that blocks YouTube.
by FredOx on Apr 1, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t let it be David Eckstein.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Apr 1, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i know you’re joking, but what on earth use would we have for him?
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chulk! Chulk! Chulk!
Ben Francisco's only fan on LGT
by Toxicadam on Apr 1, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also this morning, Vinnie Chulk was reassigned to Minor League camp.
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other trades that no one will care about for more than 37 seconds:
The Florida Marlins today made two trades, acquiring Ross Gload and cash from the Kansas City Royals in exchange for a player-to-be-named-later and acquiring RHP Hayden Penn from the Orioles in exchange for INF Robert Andino.
Gload actually sucked slightly less against the Tribe than he did against other teams (810 career OPS vs 737 overall).
by FredOx on Apr 1, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t Hayden Penn supposed to be some great pitching prospect for them at one point?
DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.
by zempf on Apr 1, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was with the Yankees, wasn’t he? Didn’t he even make a spot start or two for the Yankees?
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Penn started 14 games for Baltimore in 2005-06. Never been with any other organization.
by FredOx on Apr 1, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s who I was thinking of.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sure it wasn’t Sean Penn? Anyone?
by NickFantana on Apr 1, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hello zempf,
Yes, Baltimore had very high hopes for Penn just about 2-3 years back, but if I recall correctly, they rushed him up to the MLs earlier than they probably should have (which is what I gathered from most analysts), which could have hindered his development.
I think the reviews over the past year were mixed – at times, it seemed Penn was making progress, but still didn’t receive the accolades or attention he once did, I think because he would do that “one step forward, two steps back” or “two steps forward, one step back,” etc. He never went on a long run of dominance that really made him stand out again like he did a few seasons ago in the Minors.
Still, I think the Marlins made a worthwhile trade for him that could work out for them, since they seem to have a knack, especially of late, of developing young talent into viable players. It sort of can be looked upon like when they acquired top pitching prospect Andrew Miller from the Tigers for Cabrera/Willis – I think Miller is projected to be their #5 starter. He’s not at the level of dominance that many analysts were expecting (setting off many Adam vs. Andrew Miller debates on MinorLeagueBall.com :-), but still looks to be a promising viable pitcher for them in time.
Just my 2 cents.
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
by indiansfan on Apr 1, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UPDATE No. 2: Sounds like the Ryu situation involves either a medical problem (he did have arthroscopic surgery performed on his elbow last summer) or some other technicality. No official word from the Indians.
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shapiro was talking about a conversation with Kevin Towers (SD GM) and said something along the lines of, “Kevin was saying, ‘you guys are trying to cut down from 27 or 28 to get to 25 – we’re trying to get up to 25 from 17 or 18.’” To which Mark said, “that’s not good, Kevin”. I laughed (on the inside)
by still ill on Apr 1, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
YES! He’s gone.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Apr 1, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McPherson is out there.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Apr 1, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking this today. Jay and I were fencing (I was losing) in the Crowe thread about what is needed on the bench. His idea was that we need a left-handed power bat more than we needed a pinch-runner/backup centerfielder.
McPherson is much more appropriate to that role than Dellucci. They both come with their uncertainties, but with Dellucci, it’s whether age has sapped his ability to the point that he is certainly finished. With McPherson, who is 28, it’s whether or not (a) his power will translate to the majors finally, (b) his poor contact ability will overwhelm him, or be acceptable in a Shoppach-type way.
Of course the other problems are position—with Garko and Victor around, an outfielder’s better to have than a corner infielder—and the fact that Dellucci’s under contract while McPherson is a free agent. But Dellucci himself is basically only a left fielder at this point, and I don’t foresee a bidding war over a AAAA three true outcomes slugger at this point in the season.
All of which is a long way of saying I think he’s a good fit for this team as it’s presently constructed. It would probably mean you end up with a bench of Shoppach/Garko, Carroll, Crowe, and McPherson to make the positions fit (sorry, Josh), but I think it makes a lot of sense.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That leaves only Carroll on the bench capable of playing SS or 2B, though, which seems a bit risky.
by Voltaire on Apr 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do I have to rehash my joke about Crowe being forced to play an emergency 2b, and it sending him into a 6-month collapse at the plate?
by dgcambridge on Apr 1, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The emergency 2B is DeRosa.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really. we have depth in flexibility. name me all the teams out there that has more than one guy on the bench who can play 2b and SS. there’s also this new fangled system called “the minors.”
but yes, if two middle infielders get hurt during the same game, we are at a considerable risk.
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, with the bench as it currently stands, Barfield and Carrol.
by Voltaire on Apr 1, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s worth noting that unlike many second basemen, Barfield isn’t a converted shortstop. He’s been a full-time second baseman since his first full season as a pro. Let’s not pretend he’s Alex Cora.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it’s not a great case I’m making. I suppose a better and less messy way of making my point is to focus on the corollary: “that’s a lotta DH types on the bench.”
by Voltaire on Apr 1, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s just subject to the way we’re talking about it—as a Barfield-for-McPherson swap. But Dellucci will be returning anyway, so really it’s swapping Barfield and Dellucci for Crowe and McPherson. Which is just as many DH types.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The defensive value of a bench SS-2B over a bench 2B-only is negated by having a starting 2B who can very capably play shortstop, which most clubs do not have. Literally negated; Peralta, Cabrera and Carroll can all play shortstop perfect well, and there is no particular value in having a fourth player who can do so.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I clearly wasn’t thinking this through when I made my original comment.
by Voltaire on Apr 1, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It happens.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is overkill. not 2b-SS back-up risk avoidance.
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is overkill. not 2b-SS back-up risk avoidance.
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as illustrated here visually by my double post.
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as illustrated here visually by my double post.
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fill my eyes with that double vision
by Roger Dorn on Apr 1, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec for “the minors.” Flag for the Wilson Valdez implication. (They cancel each other out.)
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that Marte? He can play short?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh. Yeah, I can get behind that.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You and I have gone around on this also, Tom (see how I work the so-um-hey thread?), and I think it’s largely a matter of the Indians not believing that DD is dead. Short leash? sure. But I think a lot of commentators are convinced that he’s done. I don’t think that’s necessarily the case.
I do like McPherson well enough, sure, though I agree with Voltaire’s point. By the way, even with the age and two years of suck, PECOTA likes Dellucci’s bat better this year.
by dgcambridge on Apr 1, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did notice the PECOTA discrepancy, and it’s obviously something that gives pause. Obviously, it all depends on the talent evaluators in the front office and whether they think that he does have anything left. I certainly don’t want to appear like I’m on an anti-Dellucci crusade—if he can hit righties with aplomb, he’s an asset and part of a well-constructed bench.
But last year, he just stunk. And Pluto (I think) mentioned before he got hurt that the team quietly thinks of him as a “fifth outfielder” behind Barfield… which doesn’t inspire confidence, if true.
And just a small point re: SS… what has changed if you swap out Barfield for McPherson? Will Barfield ever see shortstop? It seems to me, as Brick mentioned, they’re just going to slide AstroCab over. To paraphrase Madeleine Albright, what’s the point of having all this versatility if you’re not going to use it?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting question, can Dellucci hit righties better than Valbuena?
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From minorleaguesplits, his MLEs were .260/.323/.368. Looch was .251/.319/.426. Did you know he was 0-for-17 against lefties? SSS obviously, but zeros are ugly on paper, that’s for sure.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also!
i want Gimenez on our bench in lieu of barf
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does everyone sitting in that dugout.
by NickFantana on Apr 1, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
at first I was like “what?”
but, rec.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Apr 1, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In lieu of Barfield, sitting on the bench? Or in lieu of actual barf on the bench?
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gimenez with some playing time > Barfield riding the bench and only pinch running > Gimenez on the roster but only with barfield’s amount of playing time > Barf on the bench > Barfield actually getting some playing time
by Brick. on Apr 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“))<>((”
Anyone else ever see Me and You and Everyone We Know
by hans on Apr 1, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I have to say that the amazement on the older brother’s face when the younger brother tells him to write about the ))<>(( while chatting online with the museum curator is great.
by hans on Apr 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I think it is, isn’t it?
by Voltaire on Apr 1, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt it. I’m almost certain you couldn’t guess unless you’ve seen the movie.
by Logodaedalus on Apr 2, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, do we have any more Mujicas? Or was Eddie, you know, the last of them?
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 1, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Stay alive, no matter what occurs! No matter how long it takes, no matter how far, I will find you.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 1, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Strangely, I think most folks didn’t get the (bad) joke.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 2, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be a little less surprising had Manhattan not quoted, perhaps the most famous line in the entire movie.
by ClarkM on Apr 2, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to look it up. It’s been on my Netflix for about a month
by Roger Dorn on Apr 2, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incidentally, I’ve been consistently calling him Ed the Mujican since the scoreless streak.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 3, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, who knows. I made a reference last year to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, and at least one person thought that I had just come up with that analogy as an original idea.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 2, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what? I just attributed that to you in an academic paper.
by afh4 on Apr 3, 2009 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I’ll confess to not getting it, although my comment probably already gave me away.
by NickFantana on Apr 3, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ya got me. I haven’t seen it—whatever it is—and I don’t know what you guys are talking about.
by jhon on Apr 3, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For shame. You’ll be a better person when you watch it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104691/
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 3, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potentially Juan Lara. And that’s a good thing, but will an apparent miracle exempt him from the kind of mockery bestowed upon the rest of the almost-Jensen’s?
I’m happy for Mujica. He’s in a safe place now. Attention fantasy enthusiasts: PETCO, NL.
by jhon on Apr 1, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Meloan? Tony Sipp? Rich Rundles? Fernando Cabrera’s long-lost twin?
by NickFantana on Apr 2, 2009 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure, BUT I do know that Tom Mastny is from Indonesia.
by gte619n on Apr 2, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?!?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 2, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Castrovince:
The padres.com headline says, “Padres enhance bullpen with Mujica.” If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know about the Padres and their bullpen, nothing will.Hmm.
by FredOx on Apr 2, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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