Game Thread: April 19, 2008
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Hard to think of a worse match-up for us: Pavano for the first time back in NY, and a strikeout machine on the mound for them, without CC’s overthrowing issues.
I don’t know, Burnett’s stats against us aren’t that great. Out of 5 games he’s only won 1 and his ERA is 7.20.
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Looks like everyone’ s had some success against him except DeRosa.
by dgcambridge on Apr 19, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Garko gets his first start in RF… and in the new jetstream alley at new Yankee stadium no less. Wow.
I guess it doesn’t matter who’s out in right, because everything leaves the yard anyways.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Seems like an odd day to start Garko out there, though. Why not play Crowe and get another lefty bat in the lineup against Burnett?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Garko 4/10 with 2 doubles vs Burnett
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
I never know what to make of these match up stats, which are almost always, by definition, SSS.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea if this is right, but I like to think of it as an absence of a negative. Obviously it doesn’t mean that Garko is a 1.000 OPS hitter against Burnett, but hopefully it rules out the idea that there is something about the matchup where Garko just doesn’t see the ball well against him.
Well, surely we know more about Garko’s match ups against Burnett than we know about Crowe’s (although we could examine Burnett’s career splits against L/R as well). But if Garko were 0/10 against Burnett would that mean he doesn’t see the ball well against him?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m not sure how I feel about that decision.
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Generally I prefer to have Crowe doing his thing on the bench, but this is an interesting balance – Garko’s bat against a righty versus Crowe’s defense. Really, part of the decision may rely on the fact that RF is less than expansive here.
And hey, 2nd day in a row with a lineup with no Graffy and Crowe! I like those guys, but I like that as replacements with minimum starts.
by dgcambridge on Apr 19, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you guys know LGT Is being linked to on Yahoo Sports?
One the right hand side:
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Taking a break from GMAT prep for this game. It’s bittersweet – on the one hand, I’m happy that these games are on TV but it also pisses me off that I know the only reason we’re on is because we’re playing the yankees. I mean, 3 out of 4 games on national TV? That’s absurd. And the yankees probably get this every week no matter who they play against.
When you say “national tv”, which station do you mean? And, additionally, does said station have a watch online thing?
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 19, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Where are you that you’re blacked out? Blackouts are ridiculous these days, they’re archaic.
I get it on HD today, which is a nice change from Comcast’s EI, though I have to put up with Chip Carey. Life is full of tradeoffs.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Phew, I haven’t turned on my TV yet and i’m relieved to know it’s not blacked out here.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in the Cleveland market, but the cable in the dorms doesn’t get STO.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=4114213
If only there were a sports bar somewhere near your dorm.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The one where he can’t hit the fastball up and in? I think that’s making fun of him more than anything.
I know but he has this one line that is such a jackass line. He goes “dear producers of mlb09 the show, the game thinks I can’t hit the high heat – you’re gonna fix that right?”. And they say no, because they want to be realistic. So he shows his MVP plaque or whatever and says “how many MVPs do YOU know that can’t hit that pitch?”
It is dripping with jackassery.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that commercial made me hate him a very, very, very tiny bit less.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
LOVE Lincecum’s.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Cambridge and DFT, since you’re both here, I bought a ticket package for the Rockies with all my buddies, all Tuesday home games for the season. Probably won’t make all of them, but plan on doing my best. If you’re ever feeling like a ballgame, let me know. It’d be good to grab a beer and watch a game again.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Sounds great. It would be great to catch up with you guys at a game.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys still have my email address?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Public employee ethics rules?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, keep in mind that I have no such limitations……
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The fans don’t actually know the rules of baseball.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
watching the STO feed, and I have no Manning and Underwood, just stadium sounds, which seem to be in synch
I don’t have premium, so have to watch the YES feed. It’s actually only slightly annoying — better than the reverse.
by Logodaedalus on Apr 19, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Corrected.
I’m gonna laugh my ass off if they decide to adjust the ballpark for another couple hundredmillionbillion
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it really? I haven’t turned the sound on.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but it’s about 3 seconds ahead of the game. heh.
So 2009.
by Gradyforpresident on Apr 19, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Pavano can deal with the crowd. They are going to give him hell.
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Force quit and move to trash.
So far, not much hell. There’s nobody there!
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Business men don’t know who Carl Pavano is.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Plus, to them, a wasted $40M investment is nothing.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Underwood said that Yankee fans crowded around the top of the bullpen and booed Pavano the entire time he was warming up.
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14.63. ESPN is hella up-to-date today.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
To me, Burnett doesn’t look very confident. In fact, he looks gassy.
Maybe that’s his normal face.
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Getting paid 140% of your market value is very bloating.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
“The tradition of throwing the ball back is coming into play, here.”
If you are not drunk in the bleachers at Wrigley, this is the dumbest “tradition” out there, in my opinion.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Ransom didn’t trust Jeter to make the play.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
I had to stop and think whether this was a character in The Godfather or not.
by supermarioelia on Apr 19, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha Ransom took the ball from Jeter
So 2009.
by Gradyforpresident on Apr 19, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
Jumped out on the dance floor and no one joined him. Embarrassing.
by dgcambridge on Apr 19, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if this stadium was such a joke that all switch hitters hit lefty?
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Dude in the Great Clips commercial looks like Broussard.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Studied for it, never ended up sitting for it.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark Teixeira has a weird face, and I can’t pin down exactly why I think that way.
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All Yankees players have black eyes. Lifeless eyes, like a doll’s eyes.
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Force quit and move to trash.
by vbc3 on Apr 19, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Soulless.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the roaring crowd for a routine fly ball.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
Does that even exist in this park?
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe to left center
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t it be hilarious if in like the 6th inning we could all get mad at hammy for jinxing?
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Choo looks a little more badass with every passing day. In every sense.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
It is really, really sad that he might renounce his citizenship. I mean, I know that he’ll only do it if it makes sense financially, and his family can come visit him here, but … bummer.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t aware that this was an option. So he’s not leaving baseball?
PHEW!
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Great pitch!
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
Nobody loves striking out more than Nick Swisher.
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Force quit and move to trash.
by vbc3 on Apr 19, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I actually hope the answer is no because that might indicate this good-Pavano is sustainable.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
was just about to post that. The 2 MPH doesn’t make a big difference, but my guess is that the sink on his fastball has been less the last couple of years.
Today he has good movement though
Increasingly so at the margins, no? Isn’t 89 to 91 bigger than 85 to 87?
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey dg, that was #5000. Kind of a let-down.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Also the number of walks in his no-hitter.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
The Turtle comes out of his shell.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
He can’t seem him lovin’ nobody but him, for all his li-i-ife…
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
nice
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Who’s even available in the pen today for Girardi? Bruney, Bat-ears, and…?
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions
The House That Grady Smashed.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was looking at stadium splits the other day, and saw “Yankee Stadium” on somebody’s, so I checked Cliff’s to see what they do to guys’ who have pitched in both — and — they got lumped together.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Yeah, they’re keeping with Yankees Stadium. I think BR is going to some sort of YS1/YS2 designation.
that’s gonna end up being righteous.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
How do you mean?
I think the idea is dumb. You tore down Yankee Stadium. Please don’t pretend that this didn’t happen.
because this stadium’s #s are gonna look nothing like the old one’s.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Where the hell was Pavano for the back-up there? Move your ass, Carl.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
He has lips?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
at least it was kinda subtle.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
Okay, Ryan Garko, quick quiz:
On line drives hit right at you in the outfield, your first break is:
a) In
b) Away
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions
c) All of the above
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I take it all back. I want Pavano and Burnett both to throw complete games. I want to win 1-0.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
I’m torn. I’d like to see Wood notch a save in this series.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You don’t bring in your closer when your starter is working on history.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
First CG shutout in NYS history?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m just happy we’re calling him Pronk, again.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Hegan said “he’s really starting to swing the bat well”
swoon.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
It’s true, that was a dangerous-looking AB. Too bad about the GO, but it happens.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
How many times do you see it; a guy makes an uncomfortable routine play in right field and then grounds out to the second baseman in the very next inning?
Il faut d'abord durer.
Funny, I was about to make this same post after the HR!
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s taking up acting. Or wrap-around sunglass design.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
STO’s little pitch tracker thingy is quite possibly the least useful pitch tracker thingy in existence. Every pitch shows up in the triple-outline box at the edge. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN, MANNING?
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
Wasn’t some idiot questioning whether Garko should be starting earlier in this thread?! Oh wait……
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
GARKO!!!!!!!!!!!
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Apr 19, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
And now I’m glad to have his bat in the lineup
by sorrento to cooperstown on Apr 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
z
Ladies and gents, we finally have a power corner outfielder.
by supermarioelia on Apr 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
They’ll continue to make a big deal about how small the new stadium plays but both these HRs today have looked pretty legit to me.
I think Choo’s is off the wall pretty much any where else.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, where is the complaint line for Indians broadcasting?
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All smiles. Either they’re having more fun playing this game, or that entire team got laid last night.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions
I’ve lost count on how many times he’s used the “p” word.
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And still, the thing I’m happiest about is that we beat CC.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
WINS AND LOSSES MEAN EVERYTHING TRY TO TELL ME DIFFERENTLY AND I’LL PUT MY HANDS OVER MY EARS AND SCREAM LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hard to know if not talking about it works because Hamilton and Hegan always talk about.
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Broadcasters always talk about it. They are, after all, supposed to keep the listeners aware of what’s going on.
No, they don’t. Broadcasters who used to play the game generally don’t.
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I just can’t recall any game that I’ve watched or listened to, that was getting into the later innings where the commentators weren’t, in part, talking about it.
My first game at Yankees stadium was Wells perfect game but I wasn’t listening to the radio broadcast. Actually, though, I’ve watched the rebroadcasts of that one and David Cones and Johnson’s and in all of them the broadcasters talked about what was potentially going to happen. Same goes for Mussina’s almost perfect outing against Boston in 2001. I could cite a few more if I really put my mind to it.
I’m watching on TBS, so no Hegan jinxes can touch the Tribe.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Or not.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Apr 19, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
SEE???!
SEE????
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by salome on Apr 19, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
BWAAAUGGGGHHHHHH
HEGAN, GO TO THE SHOWERS
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Force quit and move to trash.
by vbc3 on Apr 19, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
When I hear Damon’s comments about Wang, I’m glad we have our clubhouse culture and not theirs. Unbelievable.
Basically saying how Wang’s performances are making it really tough on their bullpen and making it tough to win games even days after. It’s true stuff, but it’s always dicey criticizing teammates when you suck as much as Johnny Damon.
by supermarioelia on Apr 19, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, okay, this isn’t clubhouse culture, this is the fact that Johnny Damon is, always has been, and will continue to be, a galactic asshat.
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I’m saying we would never acquire a guy who would do this.
by supermarioelia on Apr 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And, in the unlikely event that we did, he would not be around very long.
by woodsmeister on Apr 19, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
A-Rod makes everyone else in the lineup better? Must say, that’s the first time I’ve heard that one.
He gives them all roids, not so hard to understand.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Garko, quick quiz:
When throwing the ball in, even one the play has subsided, you should:
a) hit the cut-off man
b) miss the cut-off man
by fleerdon on Apr 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions
c) walk it back to the pitcher
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
e) kick it in, pele.
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on Apr 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here’s the full quote: ""We have six losses on the year right now and he’s got three of them," Damon said. “And in all three of those games, we’ve been blown out and we’ve had to go to our bullpen. So maybe our bullpen’s not sharp the following days. So I don’t know what more to say, but hopefully he can figure it out because it’d be tough to keep on going like this.”
I believe the scientific term is ‘Jackass’
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
luckily Damon really helps out the pitchers with his great defense and cannon arm
by JP_Frost on Apr 19, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. He looks very sharp and he’s coming in to hitters. I’m very pleased.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 19, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
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