Hafner to DL
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“We don’t think it’s anything serious,” Wedge said. “Hopefully it’s just a two-week thing.”
The link is to Castro, as you might guess.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 29, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not serious…but going to see Dr. Death Andrews.
Oy vey.
by APV on Apr 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s what stood out to me too.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 29, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time someone went to see Dr. Andrews about “soreness and fatigue” and returned with a prognosis of just rest it for two weeks and you’re fine?
I’d bet we won’t see him in a Cleveland uniform until June at best.
by Tribe Fan Matt on Apr 29, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re making a connection that’s not there. Hafner’s battling soreness and fatigue, so he’s got some time off. And he chooses to spend that time with Jimmy Andrews, whom Travis befriended when Andrews performed the surgery. That is all.
by dgcambridge on Apr 29, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be optimistic, Andrews did the “procedure” last fall, so the fact that he has a little fatigue and is going visit that same doc, the most renowned guy in sports, is not surprising or even noteworthy… I don’t think.
by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 29, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anything I’d be more concerned if he wasn’t following up with the surgeon post-op. But I can’t say I’m comfortable with this news though given the past mysteries of his shoulder symptoms. Soreness and fatigue to Pronk could be just about anything.
by supermarioelia on Apr 29, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, the visit to Andrews isn’t what scares me. The Soreness does.
by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 29, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh Mario, you’re slipping. You do the post-op rehap before you return to normal life, not after.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
by mauichuck on Apr 30, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough, but I meant more as a follow-up.
by supermarioelia on Apr 30, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just seems more than routine to go all the way there to see him for “soreness and fatigue.” The Indians often minimize injuries, so I’m skeptical.
by Tribe Fan Matt on Apr 29, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“all the way there”… its a shoulder, with a long history, including a surgery done by this doctor and a shoulder that the Indians have tens of millions of dollars invested in. Since he is off for at least the next two weeks a little trip to Alabama to see that doc doesn’t seem too outrageous.
by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 29, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay. I’m just suggesting it’s neither routine nor minor as the Indians often seem to imply with injuries. The rationale you suggest is of course also valid. Still standing by my June prediction, but hoping I am wrong.
by Tribe Fan Matt on Apr 29, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Indians often minimize injuries, so I’m skeptical.
This is a better point. You should emphasize this part of your argument.
by NickFantana on Apr 29, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the understatement of the year, at the very least.
by JulioBernazard on Apr 30, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t Brandon Webb just get the same news recently? Rest and rehab.
by lenred on Apr 30, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I quoted that because of how little I took it seriously, more than as part of the story.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For now, left-hander Rich Rundles has been called up to take Hafner’s place, but just for the night. Wedge said the Indians will explore all options to fill that spot before Friday’s game in Detroit. David Dellucci, on a rehab assignment at Columbus, is an option, as is Matt LaPorta. But Wedge made it clear that everybody will get consideration, with the Indians factoring in their upcoming opposing starters and the makeup of the roster.
by Voltaire on Apr 29, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
meaning: Carmona might get killed tonight.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 29, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nine bullpen arms? That’s just insane.
by Voltaire on Apr 29, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you been watching our bullpen?
Seriously, though, it can’t hurt to have an extra arm in the bullpen tonight, given how many relievers we had to throw at the Red Sox last night.
by woodsmeister on Apr 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it actually looked pretty good. I can see a new CoT forming, slowly.
by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one good?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 29, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Don’t know if he’ll be available for tonight but RaffyB has been coming on.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 29, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He ought to be. Lewis too.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 29, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Raffy-R was my choice for #3 in the circle, but like I said, its forming slowly.
by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 29, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or not.
I become an expert simply by doing something.
by fwembt on Apr 30, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rundles can wipe out an early lefty and, in the case of a blowout, mop up by pitching two+ innings. Masa will throw a few innings if it’s a blowout, too.
by xrickx on Apr 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dellucci, essentially, for Rundles.
And then….Valbuena only if the Indians plan on resting Jhonny and shirting Asdrubal over to SS quite frequently over the next two weeks. Gimenez or Toregas of the Indians plan on using Vic/Shoppach at DH an need an extra catcher. But from a performance standpoint, it’s impossible to defend not calling up LaPorta to get two weeks worth of ABs.
by xrickx on Apr 29, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who is our backup catcher tonight? Shoppach is DH.
by Voltaire on Apr 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the extremely unfortunate event of an injury to Victor, they could still move Shoppach behind the plate, right? They would just lose the DH for the rest of the game, which would be the least of our concerns if a backup was needed.
by Jeffrey R on Apr 29, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would, but either way something crazy is going to happen – Garko catches, or pitchers hit.
by Voltaire on Apr 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has Garko not already proved himself a bit more agile than we thought? I saw him in person a few times this spring, and he was decent enough to get time in left AND right field (as opposed to just the original plan in left) because he was adept out there. I’m not saying I want him to catch.
I can’t imagine him throwing to second base. I’m just saying that he’s obviously more qualified than most third catchers. Neither he nor the Indians would melt if he logged a few innings back there in an emergency. I’d just prefer to let Garko cover the outfield emergencies and have Gimenez or Wyatt come up and do their normal thing behind the dish.
by xrickx on Apr 29, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For what it’s worth, you were very right to be concerned about him the other day.
by supermarioelia on Apr 29, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean you’re not understanding the rhyme or reason of his off-days and how this would all play out.
by supermarioelia on Apr 29, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was Brick. I actually said it didn’t seem notable.
Sigh.
by afh4 on Apr 29, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apropos of nothing, but they’re coming out with a movie called “Hurt Locker”, kinda blows the hipness of it, don’t it?
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
by mauichuck on Apr 30, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you Chicago guys look the same.
by supermarioelia on Apr 30, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really. He can’t even resort to a career as a pro wrestler anymore.
by RD74 on Apr 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
knew it was too good to be true :-(
by Belle4Hall19960 on Apr 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GAMETHREAD LANGUAGE!!!!
This is depressing. I’m just sad. But, you have to take Wedge at his word that it might be a 2 week thing.
So, LaPorta makes even more sense now. Not only do we have a more gaping need, but if Hafner is really back in a couple weeks, that provides a good reason to send LaPorta back down and save on his service time. I also hate the 2 man bench, even if it is for one night, that is absurd. Dellucci should be back by tomorrow, I’m guessing…. hurray (?)
by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But, you have to take Wedge at his word that it might be a 2 week thing.
No, no I don’t.
by supermarioelia on Apr 29, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team has dissembled regarding injuries several times over the last couple years.
by woodsmeister on Apr 29, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MIGHT is the key word in my statement there.
Please let me grasp to some optimism here.
by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 29, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not after last year, I don’t.
by JulioBernazard on Apr 30, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Graffanino is not one-trick pony. He will rescue the Indians. Just wait.
by xrickx on Apr 29, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cross-posting from the game thread …
Folks seem to be forgetting, we have no 40-man spot for LaPorta. If not for that, a short-term call-up would not surprise me. But we’re not going to DFA Masa or Lil Giraffe just for the honor of calling up LaPorta, when we could just activate Dellucci or promote Valbuena or Barfield.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 29, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh god please let this just be a small thing. FFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffffffff.
I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck
by Turkmenbashi on Apr 29, 2009 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is not good, not good at all. How best to make the lemonade… we have the lemons!
by larzko on Apr 29, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DOOOOOOOOOOOM. again.
Carmona for Cy Young 2009
by danvail on Apr 29, 2009 6:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man this is disheartening. I am hoping this all a stunt so that he can get a medical presciption for steroids.
by ShawnK on Apr 29, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is exactly what a friend of mine said.
by supermarioelia on Apr 29, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gah. Beat me to it.
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Force quit and move to trash.
by vbc3 on Apr 29, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love a good tongue-lashing from Fearless Leader about how we’re all overreacting. It’s all we’ve got left!
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 29, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s “Dear Leader.”
Sometimes, I just like to b****.
by emd2k3 on Apr 29, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
close, but nope.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 29, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never remember that there is only one E in FE.
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Force quit and move to trash.
by vbc3 on Apr 29, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn’t we fire Lonnie Soloff instead?
Sometimes, I just like to b****.
by emd2k3 on Apr 29, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Swine flu.
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Force quit and move to trash.
by vbc3 on Apr 29, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
True story: There is an excellent chance I was exposed to this.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 29, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great. You’re gonna have your own game thread tonight, bucko.
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Force quit and move to trash.
by vbc3 on Apr 29, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I washed my hands before I came here, don’t worry.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 29, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, you’ve been to Mexico recently?
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
by mauichuck on Apr 30, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worse. New York.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 30, 2009 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chuck will show up in 3, 2, 1…
by JulioBernazard on Apr 30, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I blame Tim1122.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Apr 29, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
This post comes highly recommended.
by NickFantana on Apr 29, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t Delucci just take his spot now?
Sometimes, I just like to b****.
by emd2k3 on Apr 29, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously Looch. We’re going to hand you 10 starts on a platter. Make or break your legacy now.
(Come through for us here, and no one will ever forget your L’s and C’s again.)
by dgcambridge on Apr 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oy.
Lead singer and driver of the Winnebago.
by Fredward on Apr 29, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This quote from the Castro article is interesting to me:
“I want to look at everything,” Wedge said. “I’m considering everybody right now. We’ve got a lot of ability down there. We need to spend some time thinking it through.”
My guess is that the decision will be made by both the front office as well as Wedge… I wonder why Wedge makes it sound as though it is up to him.
by Jeffrey R on Apr 29, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wait what? nooooooooooffffffffffffffffff
by emil minty on Apr 29, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
could this not just be a simple excuse for Hafner to get a break and for some roster moves to take place (Dellucci…etc.)?
Walt
by curly1229 on Apr 29, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well my pollyannish optimism regarding Hafner seems to have been misplaced. But remember: we went to the ALCS without Pronk, we can do it again.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
by mauichuck on Apr 30, 2009 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We could pitch then.
I become an expert simply by doing something.
by fwembt on Apr 30, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We had this guy named Hafner in there, but you’re technically right — no Pronk.
Sometimes, I just like to b****.
by emd2k3 on Apr 30, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had Jhonny then, too.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
by westbrook on Apr 30, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jhonny’s May OPS was 150 points higher than April in 2007. That’s the good news. The bad news is that a 150 point improvement in 2009 would still suck.
by FredOx on May 1, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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