New York, New York

If you want a really nice souvenir at the new Yankee Stadium, be sure to take an extra $66,000.

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At least there’s a view from the Jake. And Camden Yards is nice because it fits the neighborhood.

I like the idea of the Mets being the blue collar NYC baseball team … the Anti-Yankees. Unfortunately, they’re not willing to totally embrace that idea.

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by emd2k3 on Apr 7, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

NYY is starting to rival ShamWow & Snuggie as our fave O/T topics.

by JulioBernazard on Apr 7, 2009 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was going to say this too

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Apr 7, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thirded. It’s like us Clevelanders have some sort of complex in regard to New York…

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 7, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really? Never noticed it myself.

/sacasm

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by Harry Doyle on Apr 7, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The whole country has a complex about New York.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Apr 7, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t have a complex about NYC, I love going to the city.

Hatred of all things Yankee, however, I do have what some might call a complex.

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by emd2k3 on Apr 7, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have no complex about New York. I am also not a Clevelander, all though I grew up in what is arguably the greater Cleveland area, and I like Cleveland very much. I live in Philadelphia, which has a terrible sports culture that’s difficult to embrace fully. New York is a great town where I’ve always had a good time. The Yankees as a noxious institution does not define that city by a longshot, nor do disgusting Yankees fans define New Yorkers as a whole. Not in the least.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Apr 7, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My problem is that many people outside of this country think that New York represents
America. That is: New York is an exemplary American city. Far from it, New York – and New Yorkers – is an embarrassment to me as an American.

Coming to New York and thinking that you’ve been to America is like going to Paris and thinking you’ve been to France – it just ain’t so. Almost anything you find in New York can be surpassed somewhere else in the US of A. Music? For classical the Chicago symphony is much better than the New York Philharmonic or Cleveland’s own for that matter. Jazz – I’ve heard much better in Chicago as well. Blues – you most be joking, Houston’s got it all over NYC. Cuisine, I’ve eaten at the Four Season’s, the Gothom, LeCirque, and The Tavern on the Green etc. and frankly I’d prefer a bottle of Shiner Bock and a bowl of gumbo from Willie G’s in Houston – although I will admit a certain fondness for Katz’s. I could go on, but it would be pointless. And sorry Jay, almost every New Yorker I know is a jackass Yankee fan.

Suffice it to say I find New York and New Yorkers too self-satisfied and smug to be tolerated. As W. C. Fields’ tombstone says, “On the whole, I’d rather be in Philadelphia.”

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by mauichuck on Apr 8, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

First, of course Philly rocks.

Second, you know the wrong New Yorkers. It may be that most of the ones I know didn’t grow up there or aren’t big baseball fans. It seems like a good third of Penn’s graduating class moves up to New York immediately, and those are a lot of the New Yorkers I know, so that may be the disconnect.

The mark of a great world city isn’t necessarily that it dominates this cultural topic or that, but that it is a major player in all of them. New York has fantastic jazz, blues, orchestra, ballet and opera. You can prefer another town for one genre or another, but New York is a heavyweight in all of them — as well as for cuisine, museums, comedy, you name it. It is the exemplary American city, which is not to say that it’s the best one or that it should be anyone’s favorite.

By the way, I do love Texas blues, but if you’re going to pick one town for blues, it can only be Chicago.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Apr 8, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wouldn’t it just be easier to link to the last time you guys had this argument?

by FredOx on Apr 8, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

Haha, rec

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 8, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

this is what i was referring to in my post above… it was a too subtle and too lame joke, apparently.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 8, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that’s hilarious, chuck. with respect to people outside this country visiting new york, i feel like america—and americans—is an embarrassment to me as a new yorker.

by emil minty on Apr 8, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

ding.

by Brick. on Apr 8, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry Emil.

Sincerely,

Us Hicks in Backwards Flyover Countryland.

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by emd2k3 on Apr 8, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

This is some nice, solid Yankee elitism.

by joeee on Apr 8, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I feel the exact opposite way, although without Chuck’s visceral revulsion.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Apr 8, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ya know what would make us both happy? If NYC would just secede from the Union. Pretty sure neither side would object, and then neither one of us would hafta accept the other as fellow countrymen. I win, win don’t you think?

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by mauichuck on Apr 10, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

would that make bloomberg my president? i’m not sure i could handle that.

by emil minty on Apr 10, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, you elected him.

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by mauichuck on Apr 11, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate do say it, but THIS

I'm *always* in the driver's seat, cugino -- Chuck

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 8, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s no complex for me. It’s hatred, pure & simple. It started on May 7, 1957. Sure, I can look at it now and say it was silly to blame Gil McDougald. But I did. I hated the Yankees … and New York … from that moment on.

The only game I ever attended in Yankee Stadium was 1966 … and I had a flat tire in the parking lot when I came out after the Indians’ loss.

In Miami in 1971, I became a Dolphins fan. And of all the obnoxious visiting fans I ever saw, none were worse than Jets fans. If there had ever been any doubt, they really sealed the deal for me.

by rden on Apr 8, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs