Game Thread: May 14, 2009
Cleveland Indians at Tampa Bay Rays, May 14, 2009 7:08 PM EDT
INDIANS (13-22): CF Grady Sizemore, SS Asdrubal Cabrera, C Victor Martinez, DH Shin-Soo Choo, 3B Jhonny Peralta, 1B Mark DeRosa, LF Ben Francisco, RF Matt LaPorta, 2B Luis Valbuena. RHP Fausto Carmona (1-4, 5.57).RAYS (16-19): CF B.J. Upton, SS Jason Bartlett, 3B Evan Longoria, 1B Carlos Pena, DH Willy Aybar, RF Gabe Gross, LF Ben Zobrist, 2B Akinori Iwamura, C Michael Hernandez. RHP James Shields (3-3, 4.02).
With Fausto on the mound, Eric Wedge finally took the plunge and moved Jhonny to third.
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Can’t be good. He just fell back another place on the depth chart.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Today’s science mystery: How and why did Jason Bartlett and B.J. Upton switch bodies? And what hilarious comic hijinks will ensue?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions
Remember how good Fausto once was?
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
Nine under is not hanging around the .500 mark.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i’d wish that they were hanging out at the .500 mark
by for the record on May 14, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So for all of the defending of Grady’s “swinging for the fences” instead of hitting for contact, how the hell is that defensible?
Why is it indefensible? He saw the third baseman playing back, and thought he could get an easy single. He just blew it.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t understand how Droobs is hitting .320
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions
I mean, I knew he could, but he just has so many groundball singles.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I just can’t help but think “BABIP.”
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
But the normative BABIP or any given batter is variable. Batters who are faster and/or hit more line drives will have a higher BABIP, given equal luck.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Droobs has pretty good speed, but his line drive rate is only … 27%. Holy hell that’s a lot higher than I thought.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Feel better?
Droobs is what Angels hitters could be, if their hitting coach wasn’t a dunce.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I feel a lot, lot better.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, his line drive rate is higher than you thought, as you said, but in regard to his grounders: I think he’s good at hitting up the middle, and I would think up the middle grounders are fielded less often than those hit elsewhere.
When I see Shoppach (for example) hit a grounder up the middle for a single, I think “luck,” i.e., total accident. When I see Droobs do it, I think skill, as it’s a result of his up-the-middle approach. Don’t know if this is right, but hey.
Baseball isn't boring. YOU ARE.
I know, it feels like he’s hitting .520/
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone ever played the shift on Victor?
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions
You cannot play the shift on Victor. Victor will play the shift on you.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
That’s what I was thinking. He’s such a good contact hitter, it just doesn’t make sense to me.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Good news is it saves Peralta from looking stupid.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Yeah he really was setup for a huge strikeout there.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
For his career they’re pretty well even.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else afraid of Upton. He just screams breakout this series.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I’m a huge, huge fan of Upton, and always have been.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
My opinion is, we don’t need to have this discussion here.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I agree. You guys are pigs. Judging women is the lowest form of Internet discussion.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Might be the lowest legal form of it.
Chuck’s rule applies. We’re all at a bar together, watching the game together, guys and girls. Anything you’d discuss in that setting should be okay here.
But by “you” I mean the general you, not you, Mario. You’re not allowed to say anything.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Not to anger Jay but I support the Top 10.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Fat third baseman!
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on May 14, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Couscous is great
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions
So considering he can make that play, and none of our other 3rd base options actually dive for balls and get them….Jhonny can pretty well be a regular there, right?
Not that it matters at all, but does Marte have a better shot at being our long-term 1B over 3B? I’m talking like 0.0002 to 0.0003% but I think the odds have flipped.
That, and the fact I’m looking over at 1st and seeing Garko/DeRosa/LaPorta have no idea what they’re doing with the glove.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his best chance is being traded for a middle reliever.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
V Martinez out at second on runner’s fielder’s choice.
ok, I was listening to something else when this happened. What exactly happened?
FE WEE
Didn’t see this above, sorry if it’s linked elsewhere. Per Castro, Jhonny doesn’t seem to be too happy about the idea of playing third. Or at least, the idea of bouncing back and forth.
“It’s not frustrating,” he said, “but I’d like to be at one position, instead of moving all the time.” When I asked him what he thinks of playing third tonight, he responded, “What do you think?” I think Jhonny’s upset.
Il faut d'abord durer.
It’s not like Jhonny is entrenched at SS.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
So option Garko
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he’s worried that it will mess with his well known ability to focus on what he is doing
by for the record on May 14, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
For a team I don’t hate, these guys play in one of my least favorite parks in all of baseball.
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A friend of my brother’s worked for the Rays for the past few years, and according to him, almost all the Tampa people hate it, too.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Are they still trying to get the sail boat place?
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I think the financing fell through.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, on that list? Victor and Mike Young don’t belong on that list
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially Michael Young
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by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
And Rick and Matt didn’t get the memo about Ichiro not being Ichiro anymore.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I really don’t ever expect baseball announcers to say anything worthwhile.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I had a dream I was an announcer for some A-ball club and I was explaining OPS and OPS+ to the audience.
Sometimes, I just like to b****.
You, sir, need help.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I like pitchers with good change ups.
Waiting for Rondon.
by Gradyforpresident on May 14, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
Shields with 4 Ks already :(
We strke out a lot
There is a Santa Claus, and he’s in Detroit on May 2nd
Its not like this is new, but it still is painful to hear
by for the record on May 14, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Can anyone think of anything they want to do less than read two live Boston playoff blogs on ESPN.com?
read 3 of ’em.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on May 14, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Two outs on two pitches is my favorite Fausto.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
Fausto, 3 inn, 29 pitches. Great start.
If you believe it's just a game, you're probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.
Great minds and all
If you believe it's just a game, you're probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.
by LeftyCatcher on May 14, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So did anyone notice that Fausto’s only thrown 29 pitches through 3 innings?
by Logodaedalus on May 14, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Haha, REC
There is a Santa Claus, and he’s in Detroit on May 2nd
by Clevo's Finest on May 14, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I am now a believer. Do you have to make your own, or is this something I can order online?
by for the record on May 14, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
now be honest… do you have a steak in that company?
by Logodaedalus on May 14, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the best puns are those that cause physical pain
by Logodaedalus on May 14, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I should say, thought, that meat puns are the wurst… so I’m ambivalent here
by Logodaedalus on May 14, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Blagh. That dance will forever be associated with one of the most mortifying experiences of my young life.
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Our elementary school music teacher (this is back in a time when our school system had you take music class every single year, like English or Math) used to put on musical “programs” for the parents: evening productions where we kids would stand and sing old Broadway tunes or newer pop “classics” by the likes of, say, Irene Cara or Barry Manilow. We would also have to do skits and dance numbers and etc.
I managed to duck all of these until fifth grade, when I guess my number finally came up. I suppose it could have been worse, but I wound up with three other luckless sots doing the Charleston on a brightly lit stage in front of 1000 parents and peers … while dressed in a bizarre, silvery “fish” costume and singing “The Codfish Ball.”
On the brighter side, one of the songs we had drilled into our heads yearly was that “50 State Song” (the one that basically lists all fifty states in alphabetical order). I parlayed this into a neat little parlor trick which won me many bets/free drinks in my college years.
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Non-Peralta fail!
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
And DeRosa too! Good day for third basemen. Where’s Agent M?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
Hold it, I’m getting my rally cap….
If you believe it's just a game, you're probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.
This is… so gross.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Never mind…… grrrrr
If you believe it's just a game, you're probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.
by LeftyCatcher on May 14, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Somehow he has hits in 8 of his last 9.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
No, don’t do it. Don’t do it unless we’re prepared to keep him up for the rest of the season. Which no way they’re preared to do right now.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
make sure the shopping cart is full of meat?
by Logodaedalus on May 14, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that commercial, only for the disclaimer.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, it’s worth noting… Choo is just kind of dawdling along—hasn’t got hot yet—and yet is basically playing at Garko’s best-case ceiling.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
I was in the new Yankee Stadium yesterday for my niece’s graduation. After all the talk, I guess I was expecting it to make me taller and give me whiter teeth. It does have some pretty displays, though.
I would go if I had the opportunity.
I still haven’t been to New Busch Stadium, but I understand my dad may have a line on All-Star Game tickets.
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I did go to one of the games at New Yankee Stadium, by the way. Had great seats in left (mezzanine, just above the bleachers, front row fair territory), but went to the second game—the Reyes start where Lewis gave up a homer to Jeter in the eighth.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees fans seem to hate it. I think it’s great—clean, open concourses, modern concession stands, a very nice outer ring, multiple entrances, and empty seats.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Read that attendees were not allowed to sit in the “Legend’s” Seats. Did it look as absurd as it sounds?
Are the Legend’s Seats the grey ones closest to the field? If so, yeah, they were empty. I didn’t know why, though I had the stupid idea it had to do with Hillary Clinton security (she was the keynote).
Odd that they should think Hillary would need that level of protection, experienced as she is at dodging sniper fire.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
[deleted, politics]
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
/checks expiration date on joke, sniffs, shrugs, puts it back in the fridge
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s one you can drink from the carton.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
My dream vandalism is to replace “The Derek Jeter Era” sign with “The Jason Giambi Era.”
Of course, breaking that glass probably causes ninjas to drop from the ceiling on climbing rope.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Fordham?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course. Since campus is so close to Yankee Stadium. Congrats to her, though. (A week from today for me.)
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Does she have your wit? If so, send her up to Canada.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll admit to being more than slightly interested.
/creepily walks away to bottom of thread.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
You don’t want your niece going anywhere near Mario. He’s looking to be one of those cocky, one-dimensional M.D.’s with a trophy wife, weight and IQ both under 90.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
But he’s in Canada, so that’s in Metric. A Metric IQ of 90 is like 115 in America.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
Haha Jay we have to finally meet. If only to confirm these characterizations.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I KNEW you were enjoying Windsor strip clubs that day we were supposed to meet at Comerica.
by supermarioelia on May 14, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Lemme guess: at the end of the ceremony, when all the grads joyously tossed their mortarboards in the air, nearly all of them were carried out to the right field porch by a powerful gust of air.
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by vbc3 on May 14, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I really would’ve preferred if he hit that toward third base with less velocity. Use the whole field, you know.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Adam’s on to something with this Victor Martinez character.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions
Wow! This is awesome. Choo on that, Maddon.
by JimmyAB on May 14, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously…. how can we get a lineup consisting of:
A. Cabrera — 2B
A. Cabrera — SS
V. Martinez — 1B
V. Martinez - C RF
S. Choo -
V. Martinez - 3B LF
S. Choo -
A. Cabrera — DH
G. Sizemore — CF
With, y’know an extra Grady on the bench for when he starts hitting again.
?

From searching “I love Shin Soo Choo”. Huh.
by JRontherim on May 14, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would not let him around my livestock
This could ruin a meathat business in no time
by AllenSmith on May 14, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It would be difficult to throw a strike with that Choo staring you down.
by for the record on May 14, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This game is fun.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I see no reason to pitch to Jhonny with Ben Francisco up next.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
I thought infield singles were things that happened TO us, not things we could GET.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
Droobs is like what everybody thinks Jeter was.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, what channel is MLBN in the upper northwest?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
419 Comcast in Portland
Len Barker perfect game attendee
by SeattleVinny on May 14, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If I could Photoshop:
The scene from the end of Aladdin, with Jasmine in the giant hourglass. Ben Francisco as Jasmine.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions
I’d consider doing it if I had any idea what scene you mean. I give you points for remembering any specific scene other than A Whole New World.
I watched Aladdin earlier this year for the first time since, like, 1995 or so. It hasn’t aged well.
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I dissent.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 14, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to agree. It makes me realize that I never actually thought about the Middle East except in the context of Aladdin until after people my own age started getting shot there. The smarminess of the script just makes it worse.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s the climactic sequence. Jafar’s got the Genie, he’s a giant snake with Aladdin caught in a ring of fire.
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Willis: “Fausto, this is what we call a ‘lead.’ You may remember them from 2007.”
by fleerdon on May 14, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions

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