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Around SBN: Nevin Shapiro Vows To Bring Down Miami

Perez and Sipp must still have some work to do in Columbus because Rundles gets the call for the pen.

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If Sowers doesn’t find a way to put up quality starts over the next month (presumably how long he’ll be up at least) does he really have a future here?

417 days until the USS Choo is deployed to fight Communism.

by USSChoo on May 23, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

should he have a future here even if he does?

by ASP on May 23, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but I have fear.

416 days until the USS Choo is deployed to fight Communism.

by USSChoo on May 23, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was a nice article the other day looking at optimal fastball-changeup separation, supposedly one of the things Sowers struggles with. But his numbers from this year put him right in the middle of what should be optimal separation – and yet he still sucks.

by APV on May 23, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is insane… give some else a shot. Sowers has had three years…. I would rather see them give someone with a future a shot… Infact I would rather have Ohka or Sarloss at this point. When Laffey gets back our rotation shoul look like this:

Lee
Carmona
Laffey
Pavano
Huff

This actually gives me a glimmer of hope.. not for this year but probably next.. Throw Rondon in the mix and you got something…. Trade Derosa or Shoppach and you might get even another legit young arm.

by NCTRIB on May 23, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Laffey could be gone for a while. Obliques—if that’s the problem—can take a while to heal. Will Pavano be traded? Jake comes back maybe for the last two months of the season. You won’t get much in the way of arms for either DeRosa or Shoppach. Eventually doesn’t Sowers have to become a league-average pitcher?

by odradek on May 23, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This would be a good time for Huff to begin to establish himself.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 23, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I just realized what a genius move it would look like right now if Shapiro had traded Sowers after ’06 for.. well, anything.

416 days until the USS Choo is deployed to fight Communism.

by USSChoo on May 23, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Or two weeks ago.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 23, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee
Carmona
Westbrook
Pavano
Laffey

If you had that rotation and Huff and Sarloos in AAA at the start of the ’10 season, would you be happy?

416 days until the USS Choo is deployed to fight Communism.

by USSChoo on May 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I think so, but Saarloos?

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, after Huff is there really a guy that we can say “yeah, he looks like he could help pretty quickly”? I guess Rondon, but I see that more for ’11 if anything.

416 days until the USS Choo is deployed to fight Communism.

by USSChoo on May 23, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could definitely see scenarios in which Rondon and Gomez begin 2010 as real options as the seventh/eighth starters. I think you’re more likely to start the season with Huff in the bigs, SLewis as sixth (knocking on wood), and Pavano cashing in elsewhere.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on May 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forgot about Lewis, but I see how that’s logical.

416 days until the USS Choo is deployed to fight Communism.

by USSChoo on May 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Rondon at least is a real option now:

. I think we are looking at it now from a more global perspective. By no means is he not a bullpen option. I think what he is now is just an option as a major league pitcher. Hector will continue his development, and we could see him at some point this year or next year, it is difficult to say.

http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2009/05/minor-happenings-gomez-is-absolutely.html

by world dictator on May 23, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea It would… I guess I would insert Westbrook for Pavano and bring up one of the young guys… I know Pavano has be good but I dont know about 2 years in a row guess it depends how he finishes

by NCTRIB on May 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Meloan has the spot start in Columbus today – not a good start

by APV on May 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Well…
He has been a disappointment in the pen… maybe LA was right?

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 23, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marte with another hit

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

and that one puts his OPS over 1.000

by APV on May 23, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Selfish hits, though. No one on base

by Roger Dorn on May 23, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 for 3 now, but was thrown out trying to make it a double

by Roger Dorn on May 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAVE SOME FOR THat JUICE FOR WHEN YOU RIDE THE BENCH IN CLEVELAND BENCH

by world dictator on May 23, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

before I shout outlandish remarks I should edit.

save some of that juice for when you’re riding the bench in Cleveland*

by world dictator on May 23, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like a 1004 OPS through 102 plate appearances now.

by supermarioelia on May 23, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s 25…that’s not too old yet, is it?

by Voltaire on May 23, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is really about the best situation we could have hoped for, he passes waivers plays a full season in AAA and either shows something and makes things interesting or doesn’t and who cares he’s not hurting our twenty five or forty man roster.

by hans on May 23, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

or he could have done this last year in the majors – allowing us to keep Stevens Gaub and Archer.

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 23, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

how would he have done that without playing

by Roger Dorn on May 24, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that’s what I meant. You’re never going to find me putting that kind of blame on Marte for last year.

My post but more accurately what I meant:

or he could have been allowed to do this last year in the majors – allowing us to keep Stevens Gaub and Archer.

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 25, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are missing the point, given what is reality here, this is the best possible outcome. As Dorn says below, he didn’t play so he couldn’t do this last year.

by hans on May 24, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wedge: Who’s this new kid from Columbus? The fat one over there.
Datz: They say his name is Marty Agent.
Wedge: He looks familiar. I have a bad feeling about him.

by odradek on May 23, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don’t know. Andy is hitting everything and that could be an indication that he’s above the competition.

It could also just mean a lot of stuff’s falling in. I don’t deny that this is a great outcome but I’d be much happier if Marte was closer to Santana’s line. He’s got to do something besides just put the ball in play, i.e. walk.

by afh4 on May 24, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is Major Tom to ground control..

416 days until the USS Choo is deployed to fight Communism.

by USSChoo on May 23, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two injuries in a game is awful, especially with the struggles we’ve had getting outs….

BUT, c’mon, we lost Reyes, who has not been good (yes, I was hopeful), and Laffey from the pen. Laffey’s contribution was absolutely key at the time….but his future is in the rotation, and we need our actual relievers to turn it around anyway.

Just saying, not the most tragic injuries that we could have seen. Our chances are about the same. (too early to give up!)

by dgcambridge on May 23, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not tragic, just depressing.

by Ryan on May 23, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also depressing: the Yankees and their shaving cream. Boo.

by dgcambridge on May 23, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 2009 Cleveland Indians.

I become an expert simply by doing something.

by Brad D on May 23, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a new front page title.

by woodsmeister on May 26, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

No decision has been made yet whether Sowers starts on Wednesday. He’ll be in the pen tonight but even if used he could still be used Wednesday.

by JenniferMarie on May 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Mrs. drerikbrady suggested that Laffey’s oblique problem may be from throwing up over our current record.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 23, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for sharing your Mom’s opinion.

by JenniferMarie on May 24, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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