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The guys at WFNY don't have a link to where they got the info, but they're saying it, thought others might want to know.

Edit (by Ryan): I've added the cleveland.com link.

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I am going to miss Dellucci’s Hoochies.

by DuffBeer on May 29, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

They’ll have to join a new club. Suggestions?

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the guy didn’t have enough reason to be self-deprecating

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Herges’ Harpies

by Brick. on May 29, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kerry’s Cherries?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 29, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one.

Moses Cleaveland, the guy who invented Cleveland

by ClemsonGirl on May 29, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

an end to an era

by APV on May 29, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

hopefully the era of the sub .700 OPS

by ShawnK on May 29, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let us take a moment of silence for one of Dellucci’s two great moments with the Indians:

His home run off of Justin

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Twas indeed a great moment.

by DixonCayne on May 29, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’ll bite. is the other one getting released?

by emil minty on May 29, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, game winning single that capped the big comeback against the Tigers in 07

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh. I assumed it was this game:

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 29, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Dellucci, the man Indians bloggers loved to hate…

Classic.

by The DiaTriber on May 29, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I think this is being overstated a bit.

by supermarioelia on May 29, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

A shot at you? And/or WFNY?

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably more at the Dump David Dellucci website, but there’s nothing quite like transferring hate onto that ocean of “bloggers” rather than actually taking a position.

by The DiaTriber on May 29, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never know with Hoynes. Does he know me and hate me, or has he never heard of me?

On the other hand, I don’t really care either way.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nearly my exact thought process.

by The DiaTriber on May 29, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had never heard of that website, and now I see why.

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

same, and I’m not about to explore it.

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking back over Hoynes’ notes on DD, he really doesn’t take a position.

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the inference that the average Joe 6-pack actually like Dellucci?

by millionairesrow on May 29, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who knows? I wouldn’t read too much into it. Nobody liked Dellucci except perhaps the ladies.

Actually, I liked him, I just didn’t like him being in the lineup.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, LGT is going to explode.

Lord, please, don't forsake me. In my Mercedes Benz.

by salome on May 29, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah, cle.com is going to explode. Also, the commentators at Castrovince’s blog.

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

cle.com mayb be bottom of the barrel, but i got a good laugh out of the first comment on the link.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on May 29, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s right. LGT will compute Dellucci’s final numbers and sigh…

by peter m on May 29, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

.238 avg
.305 obp
.394 slugging

699 OPS
81 OPS+

Played in 183 games out of 374, spending about 90 games each on the bench and the DL.

Just 15 HR and 68 RBI (what the hell) over about 2.3 seasons, so that’s about 6.5 homers and 30 RBI per season.

61 runs created, or 26.5 per season.

His three-year WARP appears to be less than 0.1. He was 10 runs below average at the plate and 3 runs below average in the field (per BRAA and FRAA).

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone except Hoynes apparently

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec the hec out of this.

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I’d rather have Pujols.

Luis Pujols, even.

by odradek on May 30, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It will just give them more time to complain that Wedge doesn’t play Garko enough.

by FredOx on May 29, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They give themselves credit for our recent hot streak, as early advocates of:

- Cabrera in the leadoff spot, with Grady #2
- Sending down Perez and Koba.

voila! the offense and bullpen fixed.

Now that Dellucci is gone, they can focus on everyday playing time for Garko.

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get the Garko love. What are they looking at that leads to all of the affection?

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Batting average and RBIs, primarily. I tried to explain once that when (1) your defense is subpar, (2) 75% of your hits are singles, and (3) you’re the slowest non-Molina in the majors, you need to do better, but I gave up.

by FredOx on May 29, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You had me thinking Jeter here for awhile.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on May 29, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

so his career .281 BA is appealing? or is it this year’s .261?

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s really just RBI’s isn’t it? Common fans love RBI’s

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

see: Hammy and Garko.

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I’ll admit it. I love me some RBI’s too.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on May 29, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you know, the compromise is just to use Runs Created, the most recent iteration put forth by Bill James. It gives specific credit for hitting with RISP, which essentially is RBI.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was you? hahaha They were not very nice to you.
I am not a Garko fan so i usually let them adore him on their own. Why ruin their fun?

Moses Cleaveland, the guy who invented Cleveland

by ClemsonGirl on May 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re just laggards. Remember, there was Garkophilia on LGT until quite recently. And from what I read on cle.com, they hate Dellucci.

by odradek on May 30, 2009 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s also remember, the boy is just so down to earth. If Dellucci could hit anything close to respectable they’d love him too.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 29, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

13-man pitching staff for the weekend series. After that … do they option a pitcher (Lewis, please) and add a bat? Doesn’t sound as if Hafner’s ready. Given the 3 and 4 inning starts, they may stick with this for a while!

by peter m on May 29, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s the news on Hafner? He hit yesterday.

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep reading that he’s not ready to play several games in a row and they’re waiting for that. There was some stuff in the PD the other day about how a chiropractor put his rib back in place and how that’s a really common thing. Whatever.

by peter m on May 29, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don’t need him for several days in a row unless Grady is better/headed to the DL

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Monday for a possible return – I’m assuming with him trading spots with Grady

by APV on May 29, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, he will now sign with an ML team and promptly go .285/.350/.450

Juan Salas: Smartest man in baseball?

by emd2k3 on May 29, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

ML should be NL. Or maybe a minor league team,then.

Juan Salas: Smartest man in baseball?

by emd2k3 on May 29, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

His alter ego, J Mike, was hitting below .200 for an NL team the last time I looked.

by peter m on May 29, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should start their own middle-age suburban white guy rap group — THE PLATOON.

Juan Salas: Smartest man in baseball?

by emd2k3 on May 29, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I discovered another parallel between the two because of this post. Michaels was born in Tampa, Dellucci in Baton Rouge, so I’m not sure either is truly “suburban” (I’ll grant middle-aged and white!). What I learned is that both went to good Catholic schools (Michaels to a Jesuit prep school; Dellucci to an all-boys prep school run by the Brothers of the Sacred Heart). This is, of course, completely irrelevant. But, it’s further evidence that the two of them are well-matched.

by peter m on May 29, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

this gives us a lefty in the pen

by APV on May 29, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 29, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Clearly not what I intended.

Waiting for Rondon.

by Gradyforpresident on May 29, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overdue as this is—we might have held onto him just a couple days longer in case we need him to pinch hit against Justin Chamberlain.

No, not you. Your helmet!

by PatBordersHelmet on May 29, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Overdue as this is—we might have held onto him just a couple days longer in case we need him to pinch hit against Justin Chamberlain.

by APV on May 29, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Toronto could probably use some more of our castoffs

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. Was he still on the roster?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 29, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

My reaction- Yesterday I was looking at Buffalo stats and saw his name, I was like “oh, I must of missed him getting DFA’d, clearing waivers and accepting an assignment”. Oh well.

by Ryan Kelsey on May 29, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i liked him as a person, but not a player. oh well. best of luck elsewhere.

We're really bad this year. How's that for a signature?

by mixmasterasia on May 29, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, now Hamiliton doesn’t have to pretend like he contributes veteran leadership to the club house.

by Toxicadam on May 29, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

oddly, that was Dellucci’s reaction as well

by APV on May 29, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of forgot he was on the team anyway.

by ASP on May 29, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Does this suggest that one of the long relievers goes to the rotation?

by DuffBeer on May 29, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

On an unrelated note, Clint Hurdle looks to be gone.

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

  1. Herges leaves Colorado, bullpen ERA jumps from 4.13 in 2008 to 5.65 in 2009
  2. Hurdle gets fired
  3. Herges comes to Cleveland, bullpen ERA drops from 5.80 in April to 4.35 in May
  4. Wedge not fired

Lesson: Don’t mess with Matt Herges.

by FredOx on May 29, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nicely played.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 29, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hated this signing from the beginning and I’m glad it’s over.

When have we actually signed a free agent that overachieved?

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on May 29, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Good God. I wish to omit that last portion of my first post.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on May 29, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m assuming the answer is Crazy Carl

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add to that: Aquino, Herges and Viscaino. Also, Trot gave more grit and leadership than was advertised.

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Millwood? Or was that a trade? Can’t remember.

by lilkeysdad on May 29, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was it a signing or a deal or a contract?

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Millwood was totally a FA. Also Bob Howry.

by Voltaire on May 29, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I was playing on the KMTS abbreviation

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howry doesn’t really count, it as a minor league deal.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

About half a dozen years ago we signed some career minor leaguer named Casey Blake.

Baseball isn't boring. YOU ARE.

by Matt Y. on May 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again, minor league deal.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know this is what I was going to say.

I believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on May 29, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m always that guy in the theater piping up with, “I was saying Boo-urns.”

I liked the Dellucci signing. I keep looking for signs that he would suck this bad before he got here. I don’t see it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 29, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t wait to read about this on David Dellucci’s blog.

by woodsmeister on May 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

hah, I remember that post.

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoo boy, that’s uh… an awkward ad.

I believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on May 29, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I loved the signing when it happened (with the exception of giving a platoon player 3 years.)

I loved hearing the “Godfather” theme before his at-bats.

I pretty much disliked everything else about the Dellucci era.

by FallsTribeFan on May 29, 2009 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Unrelated, but in a very long belated (relative to expectations) move, Chuck Lofgren has finally been promoted to AAA

by APV on May 29, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Well now, that’s fun. Come on Chuck!

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

By which I mean, I’m elated. This should be celebrated.

by dgcambridge on May 29, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s only about a year overdue. No big deal. Still PTM.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it permanent? Castro called it an “emergency start”

Better than running Kenny Ray out there again!

by FallsTribeFan on May 30, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll admit.. I really liked the signing at the time. That’s why it’s been hard for me to join in all the bashing the last few years…. It seemed hypocritical in an odd sort of way.

by baerga1 on May 29, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Aside from the 3rd year, I still think it was a good deal.

by APV on May 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just looked up my posting history on Dellucci….I have been pretty consistent in bashing him

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

same. I was unhappy with the Looch signing and the Michaels one. Michaels grew on me though (for some reason).

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just checked as well. Roger is lying.

by Brick. on May 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve said Dellucci 25 (26) times and Looch 29 (30).

FE WEE

by westbrook on May 29, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. I made one nice comment that I could find where I said he had a stronger arm than Johnny Damon

by Roger Dorn on May 29, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel as though my vitriol for the Looch has been pretty unadulterated.

by DontCallMeJoey on May 29, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

same. Although, I did have one gem in there, where I broke down the 25-man as far as untouchables vs. players that I would have to be overwhelmed to trade vs. players I would want to trade vs. a category I called “Please, take him, oh you don’t want him? have him anyway” On that list for me, in 2007:
Dellucci
Cliff Lee.

whoa.

by Ryan Kelsey on May 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shapiro: How’s Looch?
Antonetti: Oh, Looch… won’t see him no more.

by baerga1 on May 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who’ll lead the team in Veteran Grit and Wedge’s Mancrush now?

In all fairness, I wish things had turned out better for him here (and not just for a selfish reason of being a Tribe fan). I remember reading an article about him when he first signed – one of those spring training puff pieces. Anyways, he seemed like a good guy with his head screwed on straight. I wish him better success in the future.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on May 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the commenter on the article who counted Eduardo Perez in having done nothing for the Tribe, like Michaels and Dellucci.

I beg to differ, sir.

"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood

by USSChoo on May 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions  

That, and you know, he put up an OPS just shy of 1.000 while in Cleveland

by APV on May 29, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That half of the season between him and Broussard… most effective platoon in recent baseball memory?

"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood

by USSChoo on May 29, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was very satisfied with that platoon.

Broussard played the guitar too, right? “Women get woolly.”

by gte619n on May 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

www.benbroussard.com

Half a season of effective platoon-age, and many seasons of Choo and Asdrubal.. really, could it have worked out any better?

"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood

by USSChoo on May 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Effective Platoon + Droobs + Choo = Reason #1 I don’t give a crap who we draft

by Brick. on May 29, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid reasoning. Although we did draft Branyan and traded him for Broussard.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 29, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t you also argue we got more out of Branyan than anyone else did, at least up to this year? (Which I don’t think will last)

"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood

by USSChoo on May 29, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with you assessment that this year won’t last for Branyan. Well at least in regards to his slg. He’ll hit forty HRs with the playing time.

by hans on May 30, 2009 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

More so I think the Indians should have looked to trade Garko and sign him to play first instead.

by hans on May 30, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was saying this, like, two years ago.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on May 30, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

We can only conclude that Russell has character issues.

by odradek on May 30, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the clouds parted, and the sun came out, and the people said “yea, it is good”

i can’t tell you for how long i’ve been awaiting this. i feel like inigo must have after he took out rugen.

by DontCallMeJoey on May 29, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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