Game Thread: June 19, 2009
Cleveland Indians at Chicago Cubs, Jun 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT
Cleveland at Chicago Cubs, 2:15 PM
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Me either… if I hadn’t been on LGT I would probably have missed it…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank God the Indians website alerted me about the game
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Otherwise, your blood pressure could have stayed healthy.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the Cubs. Three day games in a row. Electric lights turn them into monsters, or something.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do people just skip work to go to the games?
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think. It’ probably considered a good excuse actually.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
likewise. what a nice way to not work on a friday
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Mahoning Valley starts today! Did anyone else have no clue where Mahoning Valley was before sucking it up and actually looking it up on the internet?
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, I still have no idea, having not yet sucked up said.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still don’t know, can’t tell if you are trying to get me to look myself.
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am actually from “The Valley” it is an area between Warren, Ohio and Youngstown, Ohio (Niles to be exact)… As funny as it may seem its probably a really good thing the Scrappers started today… The region have been ravished by GM job losses and the people could probably use something to take their mind off of it.
by NCTRIB on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh, just looked it up- That is the only area in Ohio I have no knowledge of.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you guys, like, listen to The Boss?
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Youngstown is one of my all time favorite songs. Especially the more recent live version with the E-Street band.
But, alas, I had no idea where Mahoning Valley or Niles were before today.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only because I had a good friend who was from Warren. I’m somewhat disturbed by this image:

LG Scraeland!
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d never heard of the town/county called Gwinnett until the MILB season started.
by dgcambridge on Jun 19, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you were from Richmond, VA, you’d know Gwinnett County all too well. Also the reason I know so much about the Connecticut Defenders.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s where I’m from! Big news when they got the team and built the park.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game isn’t on WGN. I was so excited to get to watch on our big TV in HD, but no. Computer it is.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRosa indirectly crapping on Cleveland in the pregame interview…. “[Chicago]‘s a special place to play. I haven’t been anywhere that even comes close”
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wood said the same thing. Basically that its the best atmosphere is all of baseball.
Really, can’t disagree with them.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone see the hilarious (bogus) done trade on the internets?
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeRo, Shop Sowers for Matt Holliday? That one?
by ASP on Jun 19, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyway, I have no idea where this started but the trade was
Indians get Holliday and Dallas Braden
Oakland gets Sowers, Shoppach and DeRosa
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d think our best return on a DeRo trade would be with a team with more wins than us, but maybe I’m wrong.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s really good for us.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For those with iPhones, today’s game is one of two with live video in the MLB app. It’s like MLB.tv, but only $10 per year. Video quality in the STL game last night was great on my home wifi.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really. Now I have to do homework.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
APA workbook homework.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t done homework since the 8th grade
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lucky.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Communication Studies.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which APA would this be? To me this is the American Psychological Association, though could also be American Philosophical Association. Neither of those seem like they would have workbooks though….
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
American Psychological Association and they do have a workbook for their writing style. Communications people use APA style so I have to learn. It’s annoying because I already know MLA so well.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah. I’m a psychologist, and I never explicitly learned to write in “APA style”… I probably do it wrong.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think APA is the trendy formatting style for writing papers
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Accounting. Teachers never collected homework
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This concerns me.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I took a lot of business classes. Most business classes assign homework, but do not collect. The tests and quizzes are often difficult
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if you didn’t do your homework how did you pass the tests? Are you one of those annoying people who don’t have to do anything and still get A’s?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those people either:
1. Don’t studying something hard.
2. Do a ton of work and lie about it.
There is no other option.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most 300-400 level math (not stats) classes at any respectable university will be impossible to get an A in if you merely listen in class.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Math is a difficult class at its upper levels. Do you think someone like John Nash would need to study to get an A in those classes though when he was in undergrad? (not factoring in that he was probably off creating his own theories and studying different thigns)
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think (INSERT ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF GENIUS IN THE CENTURY AS COUNTERPOINT) had to work hard?
The legend has it that Nash never stopped working, even at night.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I was just pointing out that it goes beyond the two options you gave us
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d contend it’s an underrated skill at any level.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but Math.
/Poly Sci major/lawyer.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not rue. My suitemate doesn’t have to do anything and she gets A’s and she’s studying political science in the honors college. She waits until the night before to do 20 page papers and gets good grades on them. I guess I’m kind of like this with papers though.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to flame but
she’s studying political science
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point was in the honors college. She has to take 2 honors classes a year. And she’s the same with those.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So? If studying computer engineering or applied math, you have to take 12 classes like that per year. Not even close in difficulty.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine but she does take hard classes and she took hard classes in high school.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just trying to share my opinion that people who go around intimidating others with their phenomenal grades and horrible work ethic are either lying or just studying something thats balls easy.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well she doesn’t brag about it. It just annoys all of us. I’m actually probably pretty close to being like this but I like her don’t brag about it so no one knows.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats not my point. My point is encouragement: when working at school, there really isn’t such a thing as some natural Lebron James who is going to demolish the crap out of you despite all your puny efforts – as long as your in something real. Remember, no one works harder than Manny Ramirez at hitting, despite all that genius talk…
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess. And I guess the stuff she does and people like her do they probably are all just really good at it already. I had Nazi english teachers in high school so I’m already really good at writing and I don’t have to work at it like some people do I guess. Probably the same with her.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is not true. there are those who are clearly have more aptitude for certain subjects than other people do, and will always do better than other people if doing the same amount of work (or less, in some cases).
there are absolutely LeBron Jameses of math…and Manny may work as hard as others, but those others aren’t as good, b/c of natural ability, obviously.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I believe that there are people that came out of the womb and could do calculus. No studying necessary to really understand it. Those are the people like Einstein and Nash, that go on to better things in the field
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the honors classes I’ve taken were not any harder than normal ones.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of ours are. Some are about the same and some are easier. Both of mine have been about the same or easier.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the history class I took freshman year was pretty easy, but did have a lot of work. Only 2 exams (all essay) and a ton of these weird things from the book’s CD rom.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first one seemed like it was going to be hard but I’m convinced he gave everyone in the class A’s no matter what their actual grades were. My second one was really easy because we had so many problems with the book at first.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, in the writing class I had we had a joke that you could hand in a literal POS and explain why it was good enough for an A. Great class, though.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds to me like you’re saying if it’s not math or math-based, it’s not hard.
which is just not true.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I take offense to this.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t. Here’s the thing: writing is an art form and will evolve your whole life.
Math, however, is preposterously unnatural. Gamma distributions, Fourier transforms – these things are not art or natural. These are The Great Equalizers That You Just Have To Work At To Learn.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, grading in math classes is quantitative.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I’ve always been good at math even without really trying to be. I never had to work too hard at it even though I hated every second of doing it. It was never really that hard for me to do once I got over the fact that I was doing math.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like both. There’s a beauty to a study that will never change, ever. That different lifeforms can agree on because it’s not open to interpretation. Math just is.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Writing something original and worthwhile and in a nice style is much more difficult than figuring out gamma distributions, in my opinion.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in a scholastic setting! Not in a classroom. We’re talking academics.
The hardest things in life are so devoid of academics.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I believe the most challenging thing in academics is to write something original and well thought out in an academic journal.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then I chuckle.
The most difficult thing in academics occurs in laboratories, like cancer curing.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And where do such cures get recognized? Academic journals. Without the ability to concisely write about what happened in those labs, there isn’t much relevance to them.
Anyway, anything else I would say would cross some lines not appropriate for LGT. So I will stop.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While scientists often make great writers (smart people tend to write well), and communication skills are vital.
But hire a grad student to type up your paper, because you just made a billion bucks and saved the world overnight!
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, Joe, I’m not sure I can agree 100% that smart people are going to make great writers. There are plenty of people that have a problem putting their thoughts and process into something anyone can actually read (or would want to).
There are even degrees within communication. I’ve heard several speeches that were terrible that I know I would have loved on paper.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
smart doesn’t automatically make good writer, but there’s definitely a correlation
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I edit articles for a web site geared towards financial planners, these guys are really smart and accomplished but most of them can’t write worth a darn.
Personally, I chalk it up to laziness
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, “often” and “tend” are the key qualifiers here. I definitely know some people who can kill really hard math problems but aren’t phenomenal writers. Engineers are notoriously awful writers. Lucky, they often are innately terse, concise people – which helps them at times.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being concise is undervalued in writing.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in most creative writing circles. Perhaps beyond that…
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GFP, did you really need to say it three times?
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i had that very thought.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hemingway was once asked to write a story in 6 words. His reply:
For sale: baby shoes, never worn.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is so sad.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s sad? Man successfully shoplifts baby shoes from Shoe Dept.
by odradek on Jun 20, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess you could look at it this way. I (clearly because I watch this team) prefer to make it sad.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 20, 2009 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s always been one of the saddest stories I’ve ever read.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think its that sad. Its like a sad brushstroke, but not a whole painting.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s what the imagination fills in. That’s the beauty of it.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I mean, yeah….
But you don’t exactly know the character, or even care about him. Its like driving by an accident on the highway – sad, but the investment of a full work just isn’t there.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that’s why you’re a math guy.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Creative writing minor. And I’m not even a math guy, I’m an engineering major who just knows who to have mad respect for academically. But thinking about applied math for grad school.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m an engineering major who just knows who to have mad respect for academically
i’ve enjoyed reading your thoughts on this topic, but i had to pipe up to say that, though i’d imagine unintended, this sounds particularly dickish, arrogant and presumptuous. you’ve clearly made your own judgement about the respect hierarchy, which is fine, but please don’t assume you’ve arrived at some universal truth.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, its just my philosophy. I would agree that it sounds arrogant – but maybe the fact that I am not studying what I have most respect for mitigates it? Like, I do something easy. But I know people who don’t, and those people study hard math and hard science, and those are the top dogs. But definitely, I’m not one of them.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read “The Bath” by Raymond Carver if you want something sad about child death. Way sadder.
Then read “A small, good thing” – which was his revision like 20 years later – for some hope.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the baby part makes it much more emotionally impactful than just a random car accident.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes the reader fill in the rest of the painting, which can get pretty sad.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re still waiting for that, aren’t we?
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Math, however, is preposterously unnatural. Gamma distributions, Fourier transforms – these things are not art or natural. These are The Great Equalizers That You Just Have To Work At To Learn.
Actually, they are profoundly natural. That’s why we have them. They describe different phenomena in the world around us.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The study of math and the existence of math are what I’m parsing.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the study of math is natural – there is very good evidence we are born with innate, or naive mathematical abilities
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. And calculus is incredibly natural.
But gamma distributions are invented to help us deal with data sets. Not intuitive.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
er, data sets and probability, predictive power.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what isn’t intuitive, post-modernism. In contrast, many people would find calculus incredibly intuitive.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calculus IS incredibly intuitive.
Which is why we learn it in high school, and go on to the much harder stuff later.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
distance = rate * time. That’s the foundation of calculus pretty much right there, and that is so simple and elegant and obvious.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still disagree with your point – gamma distributions are “not intuitive” because many people get scared off by their notation, or that of similar distributions. But that is fundamentally a language issue. If you describe a distribution to someone in a more familiar language, tell them that such and such distribution means that you get a lot of events clustering around a certain area, and fewer and fewer as you move away from that, yada yada yada – it becomes much more intuitive
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hm. Sounds unintuitive to me. What about fourier transforms? Intuitive imaginary numbers? Whaaa?
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By definition imaginary numbers don’t exist – so they are obviously not intuitive. They are again essentially a linguistic construct we’ve made to make the mathematical grammar make sense.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I hate imaginary numbers!
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay. So you think abstract algebra is intuitive? This is nuts. Just because things can be understood doesn’t make them intuitive. Honestly, you and I might just disagree over the definition of the word intiutive.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok…you got me. Algebra is not initially intuitive. But as long as you accept the notion that one thing can stand in the place of another – which again is a symbolic/semiotic property of essentially any language, it is not somehow uniquely difficult to grasp.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…. if you’re the sort of person who naturally thinks abstractly — in terms of generalizations rather than specific details — then algebra is very natural. Some people have a hard time learning to think this way, which presumably are the people who find math especially difficult.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This…. Probability can be quite intuitive when it’s explained properly. It’s often explained badly and in a formal, symbolic way alone… but if you understand the stochastic process underneath the distributions (or how it relates to another one) it makes so much more sense.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probability is awesome … I just naturally understand it. After the AP test we did all probability stuff and suddenly I was the beast of the class. When I was asked to explain it to the class, though… ummm….
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah… What Adam said above is so true… math is one of the most natural subjects there is. For me, at least, it’s much more intuitive, and, well, logical, because the assumptions are always stated explicitly. It bugs me when people have entire debates without ever stating their basic assumptions.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not denying that math is very difficult – but I don’t think it is somehow inherently more challenging than anything else. A lot of people struggle with math because it, like most disciplines, requires the accumulation of knowledge, but particularly in math, a lot of the early building blocks are more easily learned by people who are very good spatial learners…which everyone isn’t.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notation is one of the biggest stumbling blocks, I think…
But I agree about the spatial learning part. It helps immensely to be able to visualize things spatially.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fully agree, but don’t understand why anybody needs to find large marsanne (sp?) primes.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not taken a math class since HS because I didn’t need to. I like math and am good at it, but why spend my time like that?
AP Calc taught me more than just math.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt. Great course for high schoolers – and really just anyone.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could say this. I had to take Math 101 even though I tested out of higher level classes for my first major. Now that I’m switching I have to take statistics. Which I’m actually fine with. I might need that.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s two different sides of the brain. I know some brilliant programmers who can’t decipher shit from an old philosopher.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true*
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean it’s really a tough topic to pin down. What is easy for some people is difficult for others. Some people would view a literature or writing class as very easy, but I would have to work my tail off to get a good grade in those classes.
Accounting or finance, I don’t find all that difficult
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate math. Apparently I’m good at it, but I hate it. I love writing and English though so that’s why I’m studying communications and journalism. All writing, all the time.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say I love English too, and all of its related studies were my favorite subjects, but then I’d be ashamed at the grammar, sentence structure, vocabulary, and spelling I sometimes exhibit here.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not ashamed at the bad grammar I use on here because I’m not editing it. This is a little bit more casual.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. Still, even in casual conversation don’t tell me you don’t notice the errors of others.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For example: Use a fucking period, Dorn. All day. JESUS.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do notice these things but I never tell because I don’t to be a grammar Nazi like my english teacher.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replying here because on my window it gets cut off if I reply to ClemsonGirl at the end of the chain.

Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was separating studying from “doing homework.” To me doing homework is working on an assignment that will be turned in and graded. In most of my business classes I felt that doing the homework wasn’t as useful as learning the material on your own after attending class
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s fine. I like to do the assignments they give even if they won’t be graded because it helps me learn it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which definitely can be true. I just found I did better when I structured my learning how I wanted to
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently that’s how I wanted to structure it. My high school math teacher always told us to as much or as little as we needed since he didn’t grade anything in AP Calculus so sometimes I didn’t do anything and sometimes I did everything.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, that’s exactly what this is. It’s kind of like, the teachers are going to make the tests very challenging. They don’t really care how you get there, but they don’t want to hear excuses if you do poorly. It’s on you
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you never did it then just because they didn’t collect? Lord almighty.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I learned the material, and leave it at that
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see nothing wrong with this.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
f – this is my one chance to listen to an Indians game…
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what are they saying? Any sense of when they might start? (I have no sound at work)
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 central. 3 eastern.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is something that isn’t delayed which those of us at work can waste our time on
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m all about Phil, but every time Tiger plays I just want to see him win for whatever unexplained reason. Kim’s in it so far I see.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
some really good golf being played out there right now. mike weir is knocking down pins.
i’m a tiger apologist…i hope he wins everything ever. something cool about watching the best be the best.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s what it is for me as well.
I caught some of Weir’s approach shots. Very nice indeed.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am like that with Federer, but I always have a hard time rooting for Tiger
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Care to expound?
And being a casual tennis fan, I wonder why I root so hard for Federer when he competes against Nadal.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t really know what it is. I think it’s Tiger’s personality that doesn’t really jive with me. I detect a little phoniness with what he tries to make his public appearance be, and I usually don’t root for people like that.
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a little bit of Belichick in him. I admit I admire that. Focused, and kind of dick to those that get in the way of winning.
Of course there’s so much charm to a Rocco Mediate.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite golfer ever was Payne Stewart. You could tell what kind of guy he was, but he was also really fun to watch for me
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting. b/w his gear and his views away from the course, i always viewed payne as a bit of a phony.
tiger has imparted into golf a type of all-out competitiveness that didn’t exist before. i’m not saying arnie wasn’t a competitive mother, but tiger has made uber-competitiveness a necessity for those who want to be competitive on the golf course.
i like that. it adds an additional level of seriousness to golf as a sport.
plus, he’s freaking awesome.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually don’t know what his views were away from the gourse. Trying to see if I can find anything online
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I really admire his ability to shake off bad shots (and bad rounds) and keep playing good golf.
I am not a huge fan of any particular golfer, but I really take interest in the phenomenon as a whole.
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was at Torrey Pines for all 4 rounds (missed monday) last year. it was awesome. crowds respond to Tiger like nothing you’ve ever seen.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can not watch golf. Although, those guys hitting the ball straight for the hole bc of the rain on sportscenter last night was nice to see.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t watch golf until I started playing golf. Now I’m in awe.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is a very common refrain. for people who don’t understand it, the difficulty of the game isn’t self-evident by watching the pros. even if you don’t get basketball, you can appreciate LeBron’s athleticism and shaq’s strengthand size. a 300 yard drive, in and of itself, is pretty meaningless…it takes context.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its raining BALLS in Evanston right now. Hopefully not so bad a few miles down south.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I assume a Cubs fan wrestler.
At first I thought you said, “Is this annoying?” Which it is.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago, you see, has a storied tradition of Mexican wrestling….
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would never put that kind of money on a team with Kyle Farnsworth in the bullpen.
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would never put that kind of money on a team with Kyle Farnsworth in the bullpen. the Royals
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s very interesting.
Someone should remind him it shouldn’t be hard to find a worse beat, since the Royals would have lost that game anyway. Worst-case scenario the bases are loaded with nobody out. Crisp wasn’t gunning anyone down.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Sucks to lose that much but I dont think its really that bad of a beat.
Step into any poker room and everyone will give you a story where they lost a chunk of change to someone on the river.
As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.
by bigbrabbs on Jun 19, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t picked up cards in almost a year because I got sick of telling those kinds of stories.
I mean… Jesus Christ… why did you call me??
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and they all think their stories are interesting, which is the worst part.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See? That’s why I stopped.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have to second this. Nothing is worse than an awful poker story about someone getting beat on the river when they were 96% favorite to win the hand.
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the angles of the play I’ve seen, it doesn’t even look like the ball changed direction all that badly.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re the first person to say this. Every time I see the replay I think, “Did Crisp really need to fall down there?” It makes me think he was covering his own ass.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he wasn’t throwing out anybody anyways. Their only hope was Skinner’s Stopsign.
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve only seen the overhead and a cam that (I guess) is behind 1B, and I don’t understand why Covelli couldn’t get the ball.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6.40am Saturday morning, 7 year old son’s soccer team I coach plays at 8am, 5 year old plays at 10.30am and 9 year plays at 11am, so will not be back around until 1pm NZT. LGT.
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Soccer’s popular outside of the States? Weird.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap. I have work at 4. I thought I was going to get see most of this game. I guess not.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are people drinking?
I’ve got a Kasris – which is a surprisingly drinkable Georgian wheat beer
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My company has a strict no alcohol policy at work
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This seems strange.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re really tough on pilots nowadays
As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.
by bigbrabbs on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dr. Pepper. I don’t know about Georgia but they didn’t have that in France so I assume not in Georgia either.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve seen dr. pepper here. The only soda I like over hear is orange fanta. I don’t like it in the US, but here the recipe is a little different and I like it. Opposite with diet coke.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I had to drink when I studied abroad in college. I kept asking the Italians if they had Mountain Dew, but they had no idea what I was talking about.
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I was in Poland I randomly came across Mountain Dew in some pizza shop. The recipe was different and horrible.
As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.
by bigbrabbs on Jun 19, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I don’t understand how the recipes are different overseas for sugary drinks.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird. France had Coca, and Coca Lite. That was it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there are a bunch of russian/turkish/iranian sodas here too…i generally avoid them, though. Georgians have a whole variety of what they refer to as “lemonades” that are basically flavored sodas. They’re favorite is a taragon flavored one, which I can’t really get behind.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they had their own French sodas I think but those were the only American brands. My host family was strictly Coca Lite and I hated it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random comma there. Sorry. That bugs me now that I see it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could you spell the word “you” correctly, please?
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Twain never had this problem.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My father used to go to Houston all the time for business. He would become enamored with “y’all” for about a week after returning. I hated it.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do I annoy you then?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I grew to really embrace y’all in Atlanta. You can say it without it being completely drawn out, and it really is very useful. After a little time, you begin to find “you all” incredibly bulky.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I ever use “you all” anyway. It’s just a personal thing and I try not to take people to task for it because I know how accepted it is.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But do you use you guys? It really is shorter and easier.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come to think of it, I’m not sure. I think I just say “you.” It’s perfectly plural as is.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lived with a girl from Tennessee for a brief period of time that said y’all and of course, I use the “you guys” and I got pegged as Sloth from the Goonies.
She would run around our apartment saying “HEY YOU GUYS!”
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having not seen the Goonies in a long time, this is funnier than I think it should be.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it got really annoying really fast
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see why this was a brief period.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My parents are from Kentucky. We passed the “Florence, y’all” water tower at least twice a year. So I didn’t just hear it all the time, I saw it in giant letters on the side of the highway.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pittsburgh “yinz” amuses me for a while when I’m there.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is the weirdest one, in my opinion.
Youse (Youz? Not sure how you’d spell it) was quite common where I grew up (other side of the state from Pittsburgh)…. ::shudder::
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
U
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This picture ...
See here.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ewe’s not fat, ewe’s fluffy.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What? I was spelling you how kids my age spell it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll admit I text a lot. Like a lot a lot. If I didn’t have unlimited texting I don’t know what I would do.
That being said I never use shortcuts. Anyone who texts can type fast enough to not have to skip letters.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet your fast at texting GFP
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jun 19, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too bad I don’t have a cell phone.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a social experiment.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gave up texting for lent this year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be a great excuse for a lot of things.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Roseanne and Cash Cab
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jun 19, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t not watch Cash Cab if I turn to it.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been trying to flag down that damn cab for over a year now with no luck
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always wonder what people think if they see a cab go by with lights flashing.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear to God I got every answer right yesterday.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The big question is: Do you go for the video bonus?
I do. It’s a free taxi anyway.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely. Heroes will be remembered. But legends never die.
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I usually take the money.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, if anyone’s ever at Flannery’s at the corner of Prospect and E. 4th, one of the servers is a clone of Ben Bailey.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a full keypad so I never use shortcuts either. I think they’re dumb anyway.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m anti full keypad. I think it slows me down.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you learned on it it’s better. if you learned the old way, it’s slower.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I learned the old way. Then I learned T9. Then I got a keypad about a year and half ago. I love the keypad.
On a side note T9 was very stubborn pretending it didn’t know dirty words.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate T9. it never says what I want it to.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The T-2000 was a far cooler Terminator.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a keypad and it was nice, then my screen broke and i am back to t9 and am still satisfied.
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jun 19, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just can’t do the other way and T9 has never worked for me.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess since it’s a rain delay and we’re talking about phones…
I get a new one at the end of the month. Verizon. I’m set on a smart phone. Blackberry Curve or Storm?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you asking my opinion?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t actually have one.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have the Storm and realllly like it. Don’t listen to the bad reviews
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I played around with it in the store. I don’t know. I’m cautious whether the touch screen will still be cool after the novelty wears off.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touch screens are still cool as long they work. I have a Glyde and it started not working but they replaced it and now it works fine. It’s still cool.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You stop noticing it. It works pretty well once you are used to it
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went with the Curve. I figured that they’ll have worked the kinks out of the touch-screen BlackBerry by the next time the contract was up.
by Ryan on Jun 19, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really I just wish the iPhone was on Verizon. Like now.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Cash Cab and Roseanne
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jun 19, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note T9 was very stubborn pretending it didn’t know dirty words.
Yeah… this is both hilarious and obnoxious.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
T9 also fails to recognize my unnecessary made up words, such as bizoom or blam. I can’t get by without subjecting others to my antics.
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
being able to add things to its lexicon is essential
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thus the reason my contacts list contains a bunch of profanity and made-up words. The auto-correct treats contacts as dictionary words.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like “John the douchebag”? I can support this, if true.
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Works on an iPhone. Can’t speak for anything else.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting… I’ll have to see if this is true on my phone as well…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that is frustrating. It needs to know things already. And who are you kidding, Mr. Phone, when you fail to recognize even the most common dirty words?
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also notoriously poor with words ending in “izzle.”
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I write all the words in my texts out.
It makes me feel like a defender of the English language
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are supposed to criticize me for ending a sentence with a preposition
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about no period?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice, here is a pretty good ending-a-sentence-with-a-preposition joke:
A Clevelander goes up to New England to visit some family members, but gets lost. He stops a man on the side of the road and says excuse me sir, do you know where Maple Street is at?
The man responds: “woah woah woah, we don’t end our sentences with a preposition around these parts”
The Clevelander replies: “I’m sorry, let me correct myself, where is Maple Street at asshole?”
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t Winston Churchill supposedly say something like, “Ending sentences with prepositions is something up with which we shall not put.”
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he was hilarious. He had so many remarks like this.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, me too. It’s really not any slower… or, much, anyway.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I use mad abbrevs. Makes me feel like one of them unwashed common folk.
by joeee on Jun 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t use convo around Jay.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I always thought it was just ‘breves.’
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I say all bets are off in texting and IMing. Whatever gets the job done.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 19, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rarely capitalize. I guess that’s as far as I go.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll correct myself. No one else though.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Spezi. Well, in Germany.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Keurig has been working overtime this afternoon. I haven’t really recovered from staying up late for that double CWS/MLB extra-inning debacle the other night.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m imagining some Maker’s Mark, some ice, maybe a little juice to celebrate the sun coming out.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sprite Zero. Probably Sam Adams within 2 hours.
by Ryan Kelsey on Jun 19, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not drinking it now, but my favorite summer drink right now is the Dark N Stormy.
Barritt’s Ginger Beer and Black Seal Rum. A lot of ice and a little squeeze of lime.
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
64 oz blue machine naked juice
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Выставка A for why we’re passing the Royals (again) this weekend:
Yes, the Royals will pitch to Pujols for the most part, despite his history of treating Kauffman Stadium in the same gentle manner that Quantrill once displayed in Lawrence.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is the Russian intentional?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no idea if the Russian is even right. That what Google Translate says. Just seemed appropriate.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, you thought your Tbilisi internet connection automatically translated certain things to Russian
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Georgian language isn’t cyrillic, actually. But until I changed the settings, google put everything into Georgian, so I thought it was something similar.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I guess it would have been more appropriate to say ექსპონატი.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now we are talking – although what you have spelled is “ekhvonati”
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t speak Georgian, except the kind they speak outside Atlanta. Blame translate.ge.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is the word you translated…it’s possible it is translated correctly. my georgian lexicon is decidedly limited.
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looking up in my dictionary…nope – you are right. although I don’t know if you’ve translated the very “exhibit” or the noun
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahah Stupid Royals.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta say, that thread above about math and other things was one of the most interesting I’ve read here in a while.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But isn’t this why we love it?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Weirdness Quotient increases logarithmically as rain delays continue.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I appear to be about the only one drinking (alcoholic adult beverages)
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Friday afternoon?
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technically, I’m not allowed.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said TECHNICALLY.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Webster
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got it. I realize you are my sister’s age who also went to high school in St. Louis
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did she go?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. Catholic school. We almost beat Villa’s Field Hockey team my senior year. That was a highlight. Someone I know from Clemson went to Villa.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s your opinion of St. Joe’s?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mother went there. I have no opinion though
by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our basketball star’s sister goes there. So they have a good basketball team.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it has no upper bound, but the returns are diminishing with time?
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like this game thread bodes well for the Tribe today
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Alcohol is like algebra or this game thread?
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s physically typing?
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They make strong shit over there.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta be, why else would they try to fight the Russians?
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we’re going to be on Game Thread 2 before the game actually starts, right?
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard opposing views.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was about desiring?
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Question mark, I believe.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wedge is contemplating this game thread with DeRo
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As an aside, if Mike Gosling makes an appearance, I plan on calling him Baby Goose.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is he related at all? Because I’ve liked Ryan Gosling since Remember the Titans.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, but I like Gosling too. Stay and The United States of Leland are both good.
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lars and the Real Bullpen.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope the real bullpen is good.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Lars would be interested in a package including DeRo, Shoppach and Sowers?
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Gosling and Mike Gosling were born 50 days apart. True fact.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, you’re saying they’re probably not brothers…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless it was a very weird multiple birth, and their mother moved from Madison to London, ON in the interim.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose they could be demon creatures with a 6 week gestation period…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The FIFA 2006 World Cup soundtrack (video game) is phenomenally good.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s true… all the songs are likable without being obnoxious.
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jun 19, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And also eminently danceable.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know what the name of the song is that they play before games that goes, “I’ve done it before and I can do it some more…”? I want it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure that youtube video is what you’re thinking of… the song was in a madden game too
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. That’s it. Tick, Tick, Boom I think is what it’s called.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i like it too. didn’t know what you were talking about based on that line though
FE WEE
by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry. it’s the only line I knew.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One time in the bottom of the 9th the Indians played “Brianstorm” by the Arctic Monkeys and my head exploded. I didn’t expect that.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody ever expects the Spanish Inquisition
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bought.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn. I should have used my ITMS affiliate ID and made a fraction of a cent.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For lunch I am having a mixed pile of vegetarian taco meat, refried beans, and roasted root vegetables. There are no tortillas, and I forgot to make rice.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Regular beets, weird stripey beets, carrots, potatoes and onions
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure what the stripey ones are called, but they’re even better, actually…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s the vegetarian taco meat made of?
This makes me want Chipotle.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
textured vegetable protein…. It’s better than it sounds.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You buy it dry — looks kind of like granola or grain… Then you heat it with water and whatever spices and it turns into ground beef texture. It’s good.
It also makes great spaghetti sauce.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It helps to add a little olive oil or something, too.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve had it, it is actually pretty good.
You know its not real meat, but (at least the one I’ve had) is so drenched in “taco seasoning” that it tastes pretty good
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve been free this early in awhile, TV blows at noon. It’s like Grease and Full House. That’s about it.
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok – has it stopped raining in Chicago? it’s getting near 3:45
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB now says Warmup and not Delayed. So there’s that.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re about to start.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So are we getting a new game thread now? It seems fitting.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes! Grammar time in APA workbook homework!
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow is World Juggling Day. IMAGINE THE FUN.
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to high school with Randy Marsh’s daughter.
by bogey021 on Jun 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I went to same high school as Harry Carey.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mother went to high school with Cameron from Ferris Bueller.
I think that’s all I’ve got.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mine with Commander Riker. But I think I’ve mentioned that before.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my dad went to school with Jim Tressel
by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think my grandfather went to college with Fred Gwynne. Or something like that.
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How’s this for the St. Louis people. I know the grandmother of Kyle McClellan. Sort of. Okay, I dated her best friend’s daughter.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you know Colby Rasmus?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then you’re no help to me.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry. I have goals.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAIT.
Dated her best friend’s GRANDDAUGHTER. That’s better.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a little confused.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure I’ve been to the same bar as Harry Carey, but that’s not saying a whole lot.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to the same high school as Matt Bullard, he had a few decent years in the NBA…
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jun 19, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got Elijah Wood and Ashton Kutcher
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His final year was with the Hornets. So you get cred for that.
by JRontherim on Jun 19, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i went to hs with chris wilcox, and he is still having a few decent years in the nba. we totally hung out all the time, too.
by BrianRose on Jun 19, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the end of this weekend, we’re not going to be in last, and the Cubs are. Trying to talk myself into believing that.
by FredOx on Jun 19, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does Reed Johnson have a merkin on his chin?
by bogey021 on Jun 19, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stupid Cubs.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DeRo’s too modest. Mixed reaction? I think not.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always look at the link first.
2010.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NICK YOU SON OF A BITCH
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone could use some Astley.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 19, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
technically difficulties – Ryan and I simulposted, I linked to his, he erased his and went with mine
by APV on Jun 19, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was rude.
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