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Game Thread 3: June 19, 2009


Indians 7-6, top of the ninth.

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Raising Arizona is a bad movie.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Really? That’s one I haven’t seen…. I can’t think of any Coen Bros. movies I haven’t liked though…

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s my least favorite of theirs, but my buddy loves it. I need to watch it again before judgement is passed.

Wait, not least favorite. The one with Tom Hanks is my least favorite.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t aware such a thing existed.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Lady Killers

by jayme on Jun 19, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Lady Killers is better than Raising Arizona. This is just bad.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way, Lady Killers is awful.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is going on here?!! Raising Arizona is fantastic fun.

by dgcambridge on Jun 19, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Cult classic. If you don’t like it the first time, watch it again, and again and again. Eventually it’ll grow on you.

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah thats why I’m not really taking a stance on it, I’ve only seen it once.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just stupid. Like not even fun stupid. I don’t know maybe it doesn’t age well.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe you don’t age well.

by dgcambridge on Jun 19, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, This could also be true.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that clearly at this point the Indians are epic failing and y’all are talking about movies.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hafner lookin good lately. there is hope for the world

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by HireRockyColavito on Jun 19, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I may be totally out to lunch here, but it seems that earlier in the season when the bullpen was struggling, Wedge had a quick hook with guys mid-inning, and bad innings seemed to snowball into worse innings.

Then when things were going well, it seemed like guys were getting to finish what they started.

And now they suck again, and it feels like the multi-pitcher innings are back.

Now I ask you, does the crappiness have anything to do with the quick hook and seemingly absence of accountability? Like why bring in a crappy Raffy P when you know there’s a good chance he’ll suck and you’ll have to bring in Herges anyway?

by supermarioelia on Jun 19, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

because the next guy up was a lefty

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pinella has pinch-hitters last time I checked.

by supermarioelia on Jun 19, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andres Blanco really shouldn’t count.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excuse me, Koyie Hill.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

With our bullpen, everybody counts.

by supermarioelia on Jun 19, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it actually helped the Cubs because they got to sub a .235 hitter out for a .241 hitter

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Wedge ALWAYS plays the match-up, even if our guys aren’t good enough for that.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

c’mon, DeRo, make this easy for your boy Kerry.

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Victor has that unique ability to make everything all better. I’d like him to use it.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Why would Wedge play the match up with a guy that is letting lefties hit .436 off him? He’s actually better against righties.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

How dare you inject logic into Wedge’s thinking!

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

what part of “I don’t look at the numbers” don’t you understand

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think everything. Though I may need to review it again.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone find it kind of sadly hilarious that our go to pinch runner is Barfield, given his last base running adventure?

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Better than Garko, no?

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Garko’s not sent out there specifically to run.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point. What is he sent out there specifically to do?

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

All other base running errors ceased to exist after Garko fell rounding 2nd.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta admit, I laughed through my tears after seeing that. Just pathetic.

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he really hurt himself, the closeup replay I saw it showed him not really wincing til well after he hit the ground. Sort of “oh shit, I gotta make this look like I’m a hero still”.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It just reminded me of watching a kid or old person trip and fall. It’s so funny but it really isn’t.

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, though, he’s not sent in their specifically to run.

Still sad, yes, but imagine how much worse it would be if HE was the guy we sent in there to run?

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I’m making a joke. There’s no logic behind it. Mood dictated by the fact that we will once again lose because our pen sucks balls.

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point, but Garko cleared my memory with his horrific galavant around 2nd.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mods: can you please add a there/they’re/their primer somewhere on the front page?

by JulioBernazard on Jun 20, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Please.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 20, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, he’s batting .500.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jun 20, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

So were Josh Barfield and Double-D at one point. What have you taught us about SSS?

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 21, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always change my strategy after a sample size of 1

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barfield doesn’t get a whole lot of chances.

Besides, we’ve got Crowe on the bench.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets see kerry wood hasn’t pitched in a save situation for a relatively long time facing his old team at home. yea this will end well.

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by HireRockyColavito on Jun 19, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

man, what a situation to be in. and he looks like he’s feeling it too

by exer on Jun 19, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

/holds breath

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone drinking? I think it’s time.

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing good has happened since I started drinking.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess that’s not quite true… The 7th run scored. But before: 6-0… after 1-6.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

well then you need to drink more

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I picked the wrong week to give up amphetamines

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And sniffing glue too-don’t forget!

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s sad that when I heard about yesterday’s pilot death, my first thought was “We need to find someone who not only knows how to fly this plane, but didn’t have fish for dinner.”

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not sad, that’s awesome.

“Jimmy, do you like it when Scraps rubs up and down on your leg?”

by RD74 on Jun 19, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It appears the Perez disease has infected Wood.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Shame on you.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice catch!

Len Barker perfect game attendee

by SeattleVinny on Jun 19, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

This is something I’d really want to watch but I refuse to be let down.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

nice ice cream cone johnny

by PiZZED on Jun 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

fucking balls

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

MOTHER FUCKER

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

yep…that about sums it up

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by HireRockyColavito on Jun 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

fuck fucking fuck fuckerson

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i fucking hate everything

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah. This.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That looks about right.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

fastball right down broadway

by PiZZED on Jun 19, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

screw this team. i am so sick of people saying we are only 6 ot 7 games out. they are done and have been for a while

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by HireRockyColavito on Jun 19, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, and I don’t know that any amount of people back from the DL will help. We’re not getting an bullpen relief any time soon.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think at this point they should maybe take the year off.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saying how far back of first we are is an indisputable fact

by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Choo-Peralta-Shoppach if this inning ends safely

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

awesome. painfully terrible. horribly terrible.

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by HireRockyColavito on Jun 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

no win for cliff. not fair

by PiZZED on Jun 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Last time I checked, Cliff was a member of the Cleveland Indians, who can still win this game. Man I’m tired of making this same statement.

by supermarioelia on Jun 19, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

no win for the Indians…. there is no way, unless they manage to score 5 or so in the 10th.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

hold me…

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hold you back?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lee can sue the offense, defense, and relief corps for non-support.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Lee can sue the offense, defense, and relief corps for non-support.

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

not in this game, but for most of the season, the offense has been MIA for him.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck this bullpen

Len Barker perfect game attendee

by SeattleVinny on Jun 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

fire willis and wedge

by Tim1122 on Jun 19, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

im half hoping the cubs end it here just to save us the time and embarrassment of watching us lose in extras.

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by HireRockyColavito on Jun 19, 2009 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

i’m exiting this thread.

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

This really isn’t fun anymore

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 19, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

The only saving grace is that my MLB TV is not working. I am glad I have not SEEn this shit.

by Bedwasjack on Jun 19, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Gosling, Lewis, and Vizcaino left in the pen.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m serious — I will not feel comfortable with less than 5 here.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

2009 Indians Season

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by jayme on Jun 19, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Will Wood be back in the 10th?

Although I would prefer if Garko has a chance to PH for him.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

If Wood didn’t come out in the 8th, he won’t be back for the 10th.

And I’d rather Garko PH for Shoppach, at this point. Unless we suddenly get runs for K’s now.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that is a relief.

Pun intended.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

we may have to watch Barfield end the inning on a K

by exer on Jun 19, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s probably going to be hard to accomplish.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wood’s in his spot.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

so we are going to bat around and Barf will have to bat since he pinch ran for Garko?

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure what you’re asking.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barfield is completely out of the game.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, I’m not sure what I was thinking

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh thanks, got lost

by exer on Jun 19, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Choo’s a classic Tribe player — always giving us false hope.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

DAMN PEOPLE AND THEIR GREAT DEFENSE AGAINST US

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

okay, I guess that evens out

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soriano says hello.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

F him.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you keep sating that?

by exer on Jun 19, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

omg this is weird

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I can not believe there’s a team in DC that’s worse than us.

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

yes! best possible benfran outcome!

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Garko then Gosling

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

hopefully for a save.

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like it’s Vizcaino

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

any Cub injuries, and a pitcher plays the field?

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, that was very Sesame Street, with the triple picture in picture…

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

who gets today’s walkoff cub hit?

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Bradley, just to make it hurt that much more.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wedge would like that too

by exer on Jun 19, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

well now there’s really no chance that the Indians will win this game

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Was at the game… left after the Wood HR, now comfortably at home. See I missed the usual top of the 10th tease…. miserable weather, miserable bullpen… that’s about right.

by cheech99 on Jun 19, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome bunt, Punto.

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

so the Brewers have scored 3 so far in the first against Detroit….

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Brew crew!

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

the least you can do is to also sweep Detroit….

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn damn damn damn damn

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

you have got to be kidding me

by Tim1122 on Jun 19, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

So typical

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by SeattleVinny on Jun 19, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure Wedge will have his usual cliches after this game.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Phifer has to be pissed at Wedge

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Another quality outing by the Tribe.

I wish I could fail as regularly as Wedge has this season and have that kind of job security.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

just wait until October

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was glad to read the other day that this is bullpen hell. At least we know where we are, without any pretense

by exer on Jun 19, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call me crazy, but Lee had over 100 pitches and absolutely no one in the pen can be counted on. How is this a Wedge fail? If you can count on absolutely nobody, then there is nothing that you can do about it.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

should be 2 inning save for Wood — he can’t hold a 1-run lead but he could hold a 4 run lead

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was all prepared to disagree with you, but it appears he pitched 2 innings 6 times last year with the Cubs, who know better than anyone the condition of his arm. I would go ahead and say you’re right. But, if Shapiro has told Wedge he doesn’t want him pitching more than an inning, what is Wedge to do? But that is a big if.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

This bullpen is the worst thing in history in all of sports.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I no longer enjoy baseball.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s like saying “I no longer enjoy cocaine.” Well, duh, but nothing is going to change.

by dgcambridge on Jun 19, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly true. I will be up at 9AM tomorrow to watch the game.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s like a bad car crash. I can’t look away.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

can we get a stat freak to find some comparable bullpens in history?

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hush. Leave me to my hyperbole.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure it is

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure it’s accurate.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I thought Monday’s game would be the worst one this week.

Boy was I stupid.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 19, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Monday was still worse for me, because I felt so optimistic going in. Plus they almost gave up their 5 run lead, but then got it back again, only to lose it again. More jerking around in that one.

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

although this was a Lee start, so that definitely weighs in favor of today

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will Shapiro support Wedge not using Wood in the 8th?

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

My question is… can Kerry Wood throw more than 1 inning or not… and if he can’t… how is that worth $10 million.

We seriously better be limiting his games finished in non-save situations. It’s just foolish if we don’t.

by cheech99 on Jun 19, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s the question.

by Ryan on Jun 19, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are so few save situations get the most out of him then

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was Wood’s first save opportunity in 22 days.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow. Three weeks without a save opportunity.

by odradek on Jun 19, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone explain what happened? I fell asleep after the 7th thinking the game was over

by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you forget about the magic of the 8th there, Rog?

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I heard Underwood say Cliff was coming back out for the 8th, so I thought we might be able to avoid the bullpen until Wood in the 9th

by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah. Indeed he did, but was pulled after giving up a leadoff single…

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ptiched to 1 batter in the 8th, then went to a righty.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, Wedge outsmarted himself.

He said he went by the numbers, but I don’t think he has realized that this team does not play by his numbers.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

My numbers say don’t ever use the bullpen

by Roger Dorn on Jun 19, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait… I thought he doesn’t look at the numbers.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jun 19, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bullpen implosion

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure you didn’t fall asleep back at the beginning of April?

by dgcambridge on Jun 19, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened is that the entire bullpen needs to go play Rookie ball with Fausto.

by ShawnK on Jun 19, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of the 25 closers with more than 10 save opportunities, only Lidge has a worse success rate than Wood. A good investment of $10M who doesn’t get much work and then blows it too often when he does.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

given how few chances he gets, it’s somewhat hard to blame him for not succeeding as often as he should…

by Logodaedalus on Jun 19, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am curious, for a closer like Wood, whose bonus is so heavily tied to his number of appearances, is there a conscious effort to only use the player when it is a save situation?

by ShawnK on Jun 19, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Dolan at work again, calling the bullpen and telling Kerry to have a seat.

by odradek on Jun 19, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no, no. Not going there. Just curious if it is a consideraiton, but probably an unanswerable questions, as any answer would be speculative.

by ShawnK on Jun 19, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Relax. I’m joking. I don’t think they’re looking at the cost as they are to his health.

by odradek on Jun 20, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m reading this thread as a postmortem, riding my Chicago commuter train home. Fortunately I just passed the Irving Park stop, where all the Cubs fans get on – it’s too early for that boozy mob to have made it there yet. That’s the only good outcome from this mess for me.

by shobe on Jun 19, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

at least there’s more confederations cup on tomorrow and sunday

2010.

by Gradyforpresident on Jun 19, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

they really need to get rid of those stupid horns within the next 365 days

by AllenSmith on Jun 19, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. It’s like watching soccer inside a hornet’s nest.

by NickFantana on Jun 19, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wedge is going to have to figure out whether Wood is suffering from overuse or underuse. He had pitched only 24 innings 69 games into the season.

by palcal on Jun 19, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

overuse?????

FE WEE

by westbrook on Jun 19, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Mahoning Valley is up 5-0 after two innings, but in those two innings they scored their 5 runs with just 1 extra base hit (a double), 4 singles (2 infield), were helped with 2 errors, a wild pitch and a balk, and struck out for all 6 of their recorded outs (2 by new guy Carlson).

NY-Penn League Baseball: Awesome!

by dgcambridge on Jun 19, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW, stunned. Had a quick check of the score 7-2 tribe top of the 8th as I headed out again.

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 19, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Chances that Gimenez, who has caught Ohka, Sowers, and Huff in Columbus, catches for any of them over the next three days? Chances .194, strikeout machine Shoppach catches for most of them?
I can buy into the argument that Shoppach is valuable as Lee’s personal catcher, but not for Ohka, Sowers, and Huff. If we don’t want Martinez behind the plate very often anymore, then it’s time to give Gimenez a shot, just so I don’t have to sit through another game of Kelly Shoppach striking out 37% of the time — and that includes his might .139 with RISP.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Jun 19, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ooh, batting average, strikeouts — nice.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jun 19, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next you’ll tell me that whether a player wears high socks or full length pants has no bearing on his speed.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jun 19, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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