Barfield to Columbus, Perez added to roster
Josh Barfield has been demoted to Columbus to make room for new relief pitcher Chris Perez. This is no surprise since Cabrera was actived before yesterday's game, meaning Barfield went from almost completely useless to entirely useless on the Indians roster.
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Buckeye Brad
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Yeah. Although, one could make a case that Valbuena is struggling with major league pitching at the moment and isn’t quite ready to play regularly at the major league level. And, Jay suggested somewhere that it might have been worth playing Barfield to see if he is actually able to do anything positive (which might make him a trade asset).
by peter m on Jun 29, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention service time issues with Valbuena. He should have been the one sent down.
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on Jun 29, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is how low they regard Barfield
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the front office thinks Valbuena playing in the big leagues trumps the service time issues that Jay mentioned yesterday. I don’t necessarily agree with it, but it is another thing to look at.
by Cols714 on Jun 29, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Valbuena goes down for LaPorta.
Proud Fan of the Worst Baseball Team I've Ever Seen
by westbrook on Jun 29, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think that puts us in a good infield situation. You’d just have Peralta_Droobs_Carroll with Gimenez as the backup for 3rd on the bench. There’s enough flexibility to pull it off and cover an in-game injury, but just barely, and just one.
by dgcambridge on Jun 29, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will probably be trading Jamey in the next month as well. That’s why we need to send down Valbuena now
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If so, then we go through August with Valbuena starting, and a bench with Gimenez and Barfield?
by dgcambridge on Jun 29, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell would we get for Carroll? Is it even worth it? He does have some value as a viable major league player, which is more than I can say about Barfield. I don’t think the cash situation is that bad, that we just start trading people for the hell of it.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Specifically, I’m thinking of the Byrd deal last year. If they got a minor league arm for him or something, no objections.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I was thinking, a lower level project type pitcher. Yes, I think he will be sought after
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I think they got $40 in cash for Byrd. Possibly it was just an IOU, but I think cash.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They got a minor league scrub. Can’t remember his name.
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they probably should have held out for the $40.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also! I honestly thought that was a purely cash deal. I’d given Hall the Who TF treatment once or twice, but hadn’t gotten around to looking him up.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why wouldn’t we just start trading walk-year guys “for the hell of it?” Also known as, to get money and talent back?
Carroll will be viewed in some circles as almost as valuable as DeRosa. Absolutely we should and will trade him.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they get low-level organizational filler or $25K, it’s just trading people for the hell of it. Even the filler, you just end up releasing someone you just drafted for that very purpose. They’re not going to get anyone with any shot of contributing at the major league, level, ever. Not for three months of Jamey Carroll.
Are they that hard up for cash, that they need to dump utility infielder salary?
Carroll will be viewed in some circles as almost as valuable as DeRosa.
Now, come on. Don’t patronize me.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think Carrol is a little better than you think. He has been outstanding defensively
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember claiming Chris Gomez off waivers in 2007 after the end of the Mike Rouse Experiment? You don’t think we would’ve moved some value for Jamey Carroll then?
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gomez has not officially retired, by the way. /makes some phone calls
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m overreacting, though to what, I don’t know.
It could be Trusts.
/looks to Tyler for sympathy
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, trusts, one of my prouder C’s. It’s not on the Ohio bar, so I’ve basically forgotten all of it.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m serious, too. I’m blaming all of my angry commentary on that today. I need to pick better people to take it out on than Jay.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t worry about it. I’ll live.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s me I’m concerned about.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I’ll let you live, too.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 30, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here’s a story: BAR/BRI assured me that T&E questions were never on the Virginia Bar. Don’t need to know it, no how. Then the very first question was an intestate succession fiasco that made a soap opera clan look like a 1950s sitcom family. Never have I seen so many people look so uncomfortable in suits and tennis shoes.
by FredOx on Jun 30, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People wore suits to take the bar? Is that a Virginia thing?
by dgcambridge on Jun 30, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, business attire is required for the Virginia bar exam, including ties. But rubber-soled shoes are also required, to minimize noise.
by FredOx on Jun 30, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is quite literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of in my entire life.
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on Jun 30, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dress for all applicants MUST conform to the standards suitable for a lawyer appearing in a court of record in Virginia, i.e., a suit or jacket and tie for males, and a suitable dress or suit (pantsuits are acceptable) for females. It is preferred that you wear soft-soled or rubber-soled shoes so as not to disturb your fellow applicants, but you may NOT wear athletic shoes or flip-flops. Violation of the mandatory dress code will result in your dismissal from the exam site and the disqualification of your exam.
This is actually even stricter now than it was in 1994 – I wore Nikes. The Board of Bar Examiners is pissy about it.
Garko in the outfield is dumber.
by FredOx on Jun 30, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is hilarious.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 30, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s referring to the circles in that animation on the side bar.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jun 30, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a fan of this move, but don’t get that confused with no liking Valbuena. I don’t feel like his contributions are enough to not think about service time issues.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
by USSChoo on Jun 29, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its time to stop dicking these young guys around. Either play them, ship them off, or trade them. It ain’t right the number of supposed “high talent” prospects that we have screwed around. Young guys are going to struggle in the majors, no matter how much of a stud you think they are. Guys like Marte and Barf were never given a fair chance to prove themselves up here. Especially after last year. We stunk…they should’ve played every day so we could see if they’d ever adjust to the majors. If they did, we could’ve traded them if they weren’t in our plans. The whole system we’ve got is just disgusting and keeps ruining guys.
by MooneysRebellion on Jun 29, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And before anyone jumps on me and says that Marte was given the shot out of ST last year, remember, he struggled so we shipped him off. Well look at Peralta this year, look at half our team this year and last year both…Everybody struggled out of the gate. What I’m arguing is that they should have both gotten called up and played non stop to prove their worth after the All star Game last season.
by MooneysRebellion on Jun 29, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marte was shipped off because he got injured, not because he struggled in a handful of PA. And that was two years ago.
And we have discussed this to death here; for the most part, you’re preaching to the choir.
Barfield had a very long, extended shot in the majors with us, and he also pretty much sucked in Triple-A last year.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Jay, and I realize this whole thing is a business and life ain’t fair and all. But Marte’s really got thrown around. From a personal standpoint, I wouldn’t want that to happen to me.
by MooneysRebellion on Jun 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude … you are talking to possibly the last person in the world who needs to be told this, aside from Marte and his dad.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Emphasizing what Jay said,
A) We all wish Marte had more of a shot. He may or may not suck.
B) Barfield had plenty more chances than Marte did. And he does suck. He’s had many consecutive at-bats in Cleveland, and many consecutive at-bats in AAA, and has been more or less terrible throughout it all.
The stringing about of prospects only counts for prospects, meaning players who may go on to be good major league players. I don’t think it counts anymore for Barfield.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 29, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then there is the mystery of Barfield in San Diego…
by odradek on Jun 29, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he still only had a .318 OBP. I know it’s a career best, but still.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 29, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, in hindsight there were indications he would be a bust.
by odradek on Jun 29, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he’d be a superstar. Sure, everyone struggles a little bit in their first season.
Nope. Career year.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 29, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never thought superstar, but he had some nice success at a pretty young age. I thought he’d be a solid contributor for quite a while.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I beg to disagree regarding Barfield. He got 444 plate appearances in 2007 and stunk up the joint to the tune of a .594 OPS.
by woodsmeister on Jun 29, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My reply was two hours behind yours and Brad’s. I’ve gotta keep reading before I jump in.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 29, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barfield was given plenty of chances to play for the Indians in 2007 — 130 games, 444 PA, while “hitting” .243/.270/.324. He’s shown that he doesn’t deserve to be part of the team’s long-term plans so I don’t care how much they jerk him up and down. You might be able to make that argument for other players but certainly not him.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 29, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nowhere else to put this — did anybody catch Ozzie over the weekend?
White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen was asked why attendance was so low at the Sox-Dodgers series, and said: "Because our fans are not stupid like Cubs fans. They know we’re (expletive)." Guillen said Cubs fans will go watch any game at Wrigley Field because "Wrigley Field is just a bar."
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
READ THIS WEDGE.
Juan Salas: Smartest man in baseball?
by emd2k3 on Jun 29, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m telling you … HIRE OZZIE
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would dance naked in the streets if Ozzie Guillen were hired to manage the Tribe.
Juan Salas: Smartest man in baseball?
by emd2k3 on Jun 30, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ozzie Guillen would have interesting things to say about you after that.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it would be worth it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose I could share something with Jay Marriotti, at least in Ozzie’s mind.
Juan Salas: Smartest man in baseball?
by emd2k3 on Jun 30, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, seriously, if we had Ozzie saying stuff like this right now, instead of the Wedge3000 blather … wouldn’t you feel just a little bit better about the season? I mean, he’s honest, and he’s funny. That’s something.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dislike Ozzie because of the history of racist/sexist/homophobic comments that he’s made. It’s been a while, to be sure, but I would have a hard time rooting for him.
I agree, though, that stuff like this is absolutely hysterical.
Il faut d'abord durer.
by CU Adam on Jun 29, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a great comment. A great one.
But putting a refreshing colorful sound bite on a crappy season would still mean he’s having crappy seasons, and it would be a little hypocritical of us all to say it’s okay to have a terrible team as long as your charismatic about it.
Then there’s the offensive stuff. No thanks.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 29, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what we should do? Hire a countrified manager, maybe one from Buena Vista, VA. I bet he’d say some quotable stuff.
by FredOx on Jun 30, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know despite my hatred of the White Sox I do think Ozzie is hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 29, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As division rivals go, you could do worse than the Sox. There’s a belligerent streak in their fan base and media following, but KW/Ozzie is such a perfect foil for Shap/Wedge, and their dugout is such a satisfyingly hate-able frathouse. I vastly prefer CHW/CLE games to our games against the Tigers, which feel like exhibition games, or the Royals, where everybody seems to get along.
Presumably nobody needs to hear me express my feelings about the Twins again.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you disagreeing with my hatred of the ChiSox?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all. I’m saying, they’re fun to hate. Contrast: hating the Twins, which is like getting stuck behind a broken toll booth crossbar on I-80.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. I don’t know what hating the Twins is like because I don’t mind them. I hate Carlos Gomez but that’s pretty much it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 29, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lissi, don’t take this hard: If I had an LGT scorecard, I’d be marking that post as a failed bunt single attempt. The Twins are like a cross between Growing Up Gotti and tapeworm.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should make a show called Growing Up Tapeworm, set in St. Paul. I’d watch.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know no one here likes them. But I don’t mind them at all. I don’t know why but I just don’t. I am not as annoyed by bunting and stuff as other people seem to be. Maybe it was growing up watching NL baseball and Tony.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 29, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t tell anyone, but I actually don’t mind them either, most of the time, with the exception of a few players. Maybe partly because Bert Blyleven is so cool, and I often watch them with his commentary… The “announcer quality” factor also aids in my hatred for the White Sox.
KC’s announcers are pretty bad too, but how can you hate the Royals?
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you just told everyone actually. :)
You really can’t hate the Royals.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 29, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do. You all will too when they finally win the Central. Don’t let the lovable loser tag trick all of you
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t hate them for winning the central unless their fans get more annoying than they were when I saw the Indians there earlier this year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 29, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that’s fair then.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jun 29, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I acknowledge this. But for now, hating the Royals seems a little bit like hating a little puppy. Sure, there can be an adversarial relationship at times — it might pee on you, or chew your shoes — but then it just looks at you with those big eyes and you can’t help but pick it up and snuggle it….
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
but isn’t especially annoying when they have the audacity to come back from a 3 run deficit on Kerry Wood?
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but it’s more generically infuriating than a cause of directed rage… I’m more mad at Wood, and at the “fates”, than at the Royals.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you just told everyone actually.
Crap!
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I spent a few years in eastern Kansas going to KC to watch Gubicza and Saberhagen, so I’m already predisposed to not hating KC (though I did root for STL in 85 just because I was pissed at having to move from Akron to Topeka in the first place). But my not-hatred for the Royals was reinforced in listening to sports radio in Lawrence a couple of weeks ago:
Caller: Why don’t the Royals call up J.R. House?
Host: Because they don’t really need a catcher, and he’s not very good.
Caller: But he’s hitting .322! [note: not any more, he’s not]
Host: He’s a 29 year old in AAA. J.R. House is not the answer.
by FredOx on Jun 30, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a 1 year old living in KC in ’85. I will admit to having dressed up as Bret Saberhagen for Halloween one year, and to this day idolizing Bo Jackson
by Roger Dorn on Jun 30, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill James is from Lawrence.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 30, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I blame Doug Mietnsdiafdasqwizs for my hatred of the Twins
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I was a kid I thought his name was “Dougman Kavitch” when they said it on TV.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that random Yankee fan have to do with the Twins?
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That sea creature didn’t do anything to deserve being called a Yankee fan…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If a toll booth crossbar were to get stuck in a lowered position, it would kinda look like a bunt.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jun 29, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Me gusta Ozzie Guillen.
Proud Fan of the Worst Baseball Team I've Ever Seen
by westbrook on Jun 29, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i see Perez is #54, which is the opposite of Sowers. that cannot be a bad thing.
by Brick. on Jun 29, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fan fiction story, any minute now.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was dusk, and the sky above Progressive Field was rose-petal-pink in the hazy sunset. This was the final night of the all-star break, and Jeremy was spending it in familiar company. He and Chris were making the hour-long walk across the Detroit-Carnegie Bridge. “Wedge wanted what we have, you and I,” Jeremy observed into the sunset. “What we’ve shared, and what we have yet to share in the future.”
by mrich on Jun 29, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
A nice literary device — having them take a …. walk.
by peter m on Jun 29, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
er, and of course I meant the Lorain-Carnegie bridge.
/embarrassed by continuity error in indians slash fic
by mrich on Jun 29, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I merely read it as another sign of the impossibility of their situation
by APV on Jun 30, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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