Barfield to Columbus, Perez added to roster
Josh Barfield has been demoted to Columbus to make room for new relief pitcher Chris Perez. This is no surprise since Cabrera was actived before yesterday's game, meaning Barfield went from almost completely useless to entirely useless on the Indians roster.
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Yeah. Although, one could make a case that Valbuena is struggling with major league pitching at the moment and isn’t quite ready to play regularly at the major league level. And, Jay suggested somewhere that it might have been worth playing Barfield to see if he is actually able to do anything positive (which might make him a trade asset).
Not to mention service time issues with Valbuena. He should have been the one sent down.
Il faut d'abord durer.
I don’t think that puts us in a good infield situation. You’d just have Peralta_Droobs_Carroll with Gimenez as the backup for 3rd on the bench. There’s enough flexibility to pull it off and cover an in-game injury, but just barely, and just one.
We will probably be trading Jamey in the next month as well. That’s why we need to send down Valbuena now
What the hell would we get for Carroll? Is it even worth it? He does have some value as a viable major league player, which is more than I can say about Barfield. I don’t think the cash situation is that bad, that we just start trading people for the hell of it.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Specifically, I’m thinking of the Byrd deal last year. If they got a minor league arm for him or something, no objections.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I think they got $40 in cash for Byrd. Possibly it was just an IOU, but I think cash.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Also! I honestly thought that was a purely cash deal. I’d given Hall the Who TF treatment once or twice, but hadn’t gotten around to looking him up.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Why wouldn’t we just start trading walk-year guys “for the hell of it?” Also known as, to get money and talent back?
Carroll will be viewed in some circles as almost as valuable as DeRosa. Absolutely we should and will trade him.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
If they get low-level organizational filler or $25K, it’s just trading people for the hell of it. Even the filler, you just end up releasing someone you just drafted for that very purpose. They’re not going to get anyone with any shot of contributing at the major league, level, ever. Not for three months of Jamey Carroll.
Are they that hard up for cash, that they need to dump utility infielder salary?
Carroll will be viewed in some circles as almost as valuable as DeRosa.
Now, come on. Don’t patronize me.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember claiming Chris Gomez off waivers in 2007 after the end of the Mike Rouse Experiment? You don’t think we would’ve moved some value for Jamey Carroll then?
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Gomez has not officially retired, by the way. /makes some phone calls
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m overreacting, though to what, I don’t know.
It could be Trusts.
/looks to Tyler for sympathy
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, trusts, one of my prouder C’s. It’s not on the Ohio bar, so I’ve basically forgotten all of it.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m serious, too. I’m blaming all of my angry commentary on that today. I need to pick better people to take it out on than Jay.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 29, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s me I’m concerned about.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 30, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I’ll let you live, too.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 30, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here’s a story: BAR/BRI assured me that T&E questions were never on the Virginia Bar. Don’t need to know it, no how. Then the very first question was an intestate succession fiasco that made a soap opera clan look like a 1950s sitcom family. Never have I seen so many people look so uncomfortable in suits and tennis shoes.
People wore suits to take the bar? Is that a Virginia thing?
by dgcambridge on Jun 30, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, business attire is required for the Virginia bar exam, including ties. But rubber-soled shoes are also required, to minimize noise.
This is quite literally the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of in my entire life.
Il faut d'abord durer.
Dress for all applicants MUST conform to the standards suitable for a lawyer appearing in a court of record in Virginia, i.e., a suit or jacket and tie for males, and a suitable dress or suit (pantsuits are acceptable) for females. It is preferred that you wear soft-soled or rubber-soled shoes so as not to disturb your fellow applicants, but you may NOT wear athletic shoes or flip-flops. Violation of the mandatory dress code will result in your dismissal from the exam site and the disqualification of your exam.
This is actually even stricter now than it was in 1994 – I wore Nikes. The Board of Bar Examiners is pissy about it.
Garko in the outfield is dumber.
This is hilarious.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 30, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s referring to the circles in that animation on the side bar.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jun 30, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Its time to stop dicking these young guys around. Either play them, ship them off, or trade them. It ain’t right the number of supposed “high talent” prospects that we have screwed around. Young guys are going to struggle in the majors, no matter how much of a stud you think they are. Guys like Marte and Barf were never given a fair chance to prove themselves up here. Especially after last year. We stunk…they should’ve played every day so we could see if they’d ever adjust to the majors. If they did, we could’ve traded them if they weren’t in our plans. The whole system we’ve got is just disgusting and keeps ruining guys.
by MooneysRebellion on Jun 29, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions
And before anyone jumps on me and says that Marte was given the shot out of ST last year, remember, he struggled so we shipped him off. Well look at Peralta this year, look at half our team this year and last year both…Everybody struggled out of the gate. What I’m arguing is that they should have both gotten called up and played non stop to prove their worth after the All star Game last season.
by MooneysRebellion on Jun 29, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Marte was shipped off because he got injured, not because he struggled in a handful of PA. And that was two years ago.
And we have discussed this to death here; for the most part, you’re preaching to the choir.
Barfield had a very long, extended shot in the majors with us, and he also pretty much sucked in Triple-A last year.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I know Jay, and I realize this whole thing is a business and life ain’t fair and all. But Marte’s really got thrown around. From a personal standpoint, I wouldn’t want that to happen to me.
by MooneysRebellion on Jun 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Emphasizing what Jay said,
A) We all wish Marte had more of a shot. He may or may not suck.
B) Barfield had plenty more chances than Marte did. And he does suck. He’s had many consecutive at-bats in Cleveland, and many consecutive at-bats in AAA, and has been more or less terrible throughout it all.
The stringing about of prospects only counts for prospects, meaning players who may go on to be good major league players. I don’t think it counts anymore for Barfield.
Steel Nick
I thought he’d be a superstar. Sure, everyone struggles a little bit in their first season.
Nope. Career year.
Steel Nick
I beg to disagree regarding Barfield. He got 444 plate appearances in 2007 and stunk up the joint to the tune of a .594 OPS.
by woodsmeister on Jun 29, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Barfield was given plenty of chances to play for the Indians in 2007 — 130 games, 444 PA, while “hitting” .243/.270/.324. He’s shown that he doesn’t deserve to be part of the team’s long-term plans so I don’t care how much they jerk him up and down. You might be able to make that argument for other players but certainly not him.
by Buckeye Brad on Jun 29, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nowhere else to put this — did anybody catch Ozzie over the weekend?
White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen was asked why attendance was so low at the Sox-Dodgers series, and said: "Because our fans are not stupid like Cubs fans. They know we’re (expletive)." Guillen said Cubs fans will go watch any game at Wrigley Field because "Wrigley Field is just a bar."
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I would dance naked in the streets if Ozzie Guillen were hired to manage the Tribe.
Juan Salas: Smartest man in baseball?
I mean, seriously, if we had Ozzie saying stuff like this right now, instead of the Wedge3000 blather … wouldn’t you feel just a little bit better about the season? I mean, he’s honest, and he’s funny. That’s something.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s a great comment. A great one.
But putting a refreshing colorful sound bite on a crappy season would still mean he’s having crappy seasons, and it would be a little hypocritical of us all to say it’s okay to have a terrible team as long as your charismatic about it.
Then there’s the offensive stuff. No thanks.
Steel Nick
You know despite my hatred of the White Sox I do think Ozzie is hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
As division rivals go, you could do worse than the Sox. There’s a belligerent streak in their fan base and media following, but KW/Ozzie is such a perfect foil for Shap/Wedge, and their dugout is such a satisfyingly hate-able frathouse. I vastly prefer CHW/CLE games to our games against the Tigers, which feel like exhibition games, or the Royals, where everybody seems to get along.
Presumably nobody needs to hear me express my feelings about the Twins again.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you disagreeing with my hatred of the ChiSox?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Not at all. I’m saying, they’re fun to hate. Contrast: hating the Twins, which is like getting stuck behind a broken toll booth crossbar on I-80.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh. I don’t know what hating the Twins is like because I don’t mind them. I hate Carlos Gomez but that’s pretty much it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Lissi, don’t take this hard: If I had an LGT scorecard, I’d be marking that post as a failed bunt single attempt. The Twins are like a cross between Growing Up Gotti and tapeworm.
by fleerdon on Jun 29, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
They should make a show called Growing Up Tapeworm, set in St. Paul. I’d watch.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I know no one here likes them. But I don’t mind them at all. I don’t know why but I just don’t. I am not as annoyed by bunting and stuff as other people seem to be. Maybe it was growing up watching NL baseball and Tony.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Don’t tell anyone, but I actually don’t mind them either, most of the time, with the exception of a few players. Maybe partly because Bert Blyleven is so cool, and I often watch them with his commentary… The “announcer quality” factor also aids in my hatred for the White Sox.
KC’s announcers are pretty bad too, but how can you hate the Royals?
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you just told everyone actually. :)
You really can’t hate the Royals.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I do. You all will too when they finally win the Central. Don’t let the lovable loser tag trick all of you
I won’t hate them for winning the central unless their fans get more annoying than they were when I saw the Indians there earlier this year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I acknowledge this. But for now, hating the Royals seems a little bit like hating a little puppy. Sure, there can be an adversarial relationship at times — it might pee on you, or chew your shoes — but then it just looks at you with those big eyes and you can’t help but pick it up and snuggle it….
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
but isn’t especially annoying when they have the audacity to come back from a 3 run deficit on Kerry Wood?
Yeah, but it’s more generically infuriating than a cause of directed rage… I’m more mad at Wood, and at the “fates”, than at the Royals.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you just told everyone actually.
Crap!
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I spent a few years in eastern Kansas going to KC to watch Gubicza and Saberhagen, so I’m already predisposed to not hating KC (though I did root for STL in 85 just because I was pissed at having to move from Akron to Topeka in the first place). But my not-hatred for the Royals was reinforced in listening to sports radio in Lawrence a couple of weeks ago:
Caller: Why don’t the Royals call up J.R. House?
Host: Because they don’t really need a catcher, and he’s not very good.
Caller: But he’s hitting .322! [note: not any more, he’s not]
Host: He’s a 29 year old in AAA. J.R. House is not the answer.
When I was a kid I thought his name was “Dougman Kavitch” when they said it on TV.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What does that random Yankee fan have to do with the Twins?
by Roger Dorn on Jun 29, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That sea creature didn’t do anything to deserve being called a Yankee fan…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 29, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
If a toll booth crossbar were to get stuck in a lowered position, it would kinda look like a bunt.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jun 29, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was dusk, and the sky above Progressive Field was rose-petal-pink in the hazy sunset. This was the final night of the all-star break, and Jeremy was spending it in familiar company. He and Chris were making the hour-long walk across the Detroit-Carnegie Bridge. “Wedge wanted what we have, you and I,” Jeremy observed into the sunset. “What we’ve shared, and what we have yet to share in the future.”
by mrich on Jun 29, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
A nice literary device — having them take a …. walk.
by peter m on Jun 29, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
er, and of course I meant the Lorain-Carnegie bridge.
/embarrassed by continuity error in indians slash fic
I merely read it as another sign of the impossibility of their situation
by APV on Jun 30, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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