Game Thread: June 5, 2009
by Ryan on Jun 5, 2009 7:45 PM EDT
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I'll have more to say later about Richard Jacobs and his place in Indians history. For now, it suffices to say that we as Indians fans were very lucky that it was he and his brother that bought the team in 1986.
INDIANS (23-33): CF Ben Francisco, 3B Mark DeRosa, 1B Victor Martinez, LF Shin-Soo Choo, SS Jhonny Peralta, DH Travis Hafner, RF Ryan Garko, C Kelly Shoppach, 2B Josh Barfield. RHP Carl Pavano (5-4, 5.29).
WHITE SOX (25-28): LF Scott Podsednik, SS Alexei Ramirez, DH Jim Thome, 1B Paul Konerko, C A.J. Pierzynski, CF Brian Anderson, RF DeWayne Wise, 3B Gordon Beckham, 2B Chris Getz. LHP John Danks (4-3, 4.80).
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I’m going to say something that I didn’t think I would at the beginning of the year.. I’m really glad Pavano is starting today.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
I thought there was a possibility I would say that at the beginning of the year.
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Did you know Boston has a New Hampshire Day at Fenway? It’s tomorrow.
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It keeps saying Media Error. It’s the only one of the broken ones that won’t work. The world hates me.
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Try closing it all down and reopening?
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
I have premium but I would still have to if I wasn’t at work.. how do you not have to?
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Is Chicago’s outfield weird enough to warrant Choo in RF and Garko in LF?
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
I think Carl Pavano’s return to baseball at the beginning of the season was the least impressive I have ever seen.
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I have to listen to Hawk so it’s kind of bittersweet.
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That wasn’t working either the last time I checked.
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Listening to Hawk is brave.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
I’m a very brave girl. I save people’s lives for a living. I’m doing that tonight so I’m preparing.
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I can swim better backwards than forwards.. thats not normal, is it?
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Not necessarily. It probably means you don’t like to have your face underwater.
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This is true. I can’t hold my breath long.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Well then if you ever find yourself at Webster Groves Pool in St. Louis keep your head above water so I don’t have to save you.
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Wendy called me yesterday morning out of the blue…I was going to ask you about that last night but I never made it to the game thread.
Since so many of you are watching the away feed, I’m wondering what is worse.. listening to Hawk or watching High Crimes in latin spanish audio (what I just did).
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
For your sake, I hope no pale hosers homer before STO kicks on.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
I was just informed that “Garko can’t run a lick.” Thanks guys.
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Sox fans probably find him down home-ish and eccentric. This frightens me.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
LGT, where awesome is routinely predicted but rarely seen.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Like hell. We are all awash in teh awesome.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
De Rosa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions
I love that delay between “In play, run(s)” and the summation of the onfield action. So exciting and tense!
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No, Lea was Marty McFly’s mother, George McFly’s love interest.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You remember wrong.
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by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
2 ain’t no slouch.
Really, 3 is decent as well, cop-out ending and all.
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This is BS. The first one is a classic. Any discussion of the others is just dorkspeak.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come on, now, the sequels are, at the very least, better than 95% of all other sequels.
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Damning with faint praise.
Were they really, truly, demonstrably that much better than Police Academy II? I think not.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
IMDB ratings:
Back to the Future 2 – 7.2/10
Police Academy 2 – 4.8/10
The people have spoken.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Oh, no you don’t. Let’s look at ratings as percentage of the original film’s rating.
Police Academy – 5.5
Police Academy 2 – 4.8 — 87% as good
Back to the Future – 8.3
Back to the Future II – 7.4 — 89% as good
Back to the Future III – 7.0 — 84% as good
And just by the way, the original films are underrated in both cases, in my opinion.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
But you must in turn argue that an 11 % drop off is much harder to achieve on something ranked intitially 66% higher. Skewing the only 2% difference in drop off.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
This is BS. The first one is a classic. Any discussion of the others is just dorkspeak.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
Right, otherwise I might actually argue the opposite.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 6, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I just remembered that I hate this entire White Sox team. Wait.. yep, all of them.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
I always liked Casey Blake and his b.. grit.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
I liked him, just didn’t like how he was used and the results. Right up to, and not including, the moment he was traded.
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by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
His B Grit and his C Talent.
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by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Mark DeRosa on the principle that he isn’t Casey Blake.
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by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So thats what Hawk looks like!
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
Do you also think it is amusing that they sit on opposite sides of the booth with a random blond girl in between them?
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I always pictured them shoulder to shoulder, then they link arms for their HR calls.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Take that, thanks
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
On that note, I’m off to work. It is going to be 59 degrees and I will be in a swimsuit. This is not exciting.
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Whoa, I’d wear two if I were you. Hope you don’t have to save any people like me tonight.
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Not exciting to whom?
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it’s the beard.
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by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely not. Ryan reynolds=adorable. Kelly Shoppach= not adorable.
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Any catcher who can hit 20 HR is adorable as far as I’m concerned.
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by Jay on Jun 6, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Disappointing end
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
I am too lazy to look up how many ABs Wise has. How many does he have?
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Wow that was a quick 1 2 3
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
watch, the S. Korean government will come a callin’ any day now and that’s how we’ll lose Choo for the season.
PRONK!!!
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
And now Garko cheapens it.
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by Jay on Jun 5, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Garksmash
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
what about the burbster?
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Haha, oh. Didn’t Burba throw like.. 96?
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Personally I’d rather have Choo bat leadoff than Ben.
by Cleveland Indians on Jun 5, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
Carl Pavano, 2009 Comeback Player of the Year?
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
No offense, but I think you have to judge the comeback of Pavano as more remarkable when you consider how long he’s been a non-factor in baseball.
-Erik
I guess it depends on how you view the award. Victor came back from one season (injury, few home runs when healthy) and is playing at a superstar level. Pavano was icompletely rrelevant for several seasons, but his ERA is still up near 5.00 this season. We, of course, take away his first start. But you really shouldn’t.
I want to see Pavano toss a complete game shutout. Forget the bullpen.
by Cleveland Indians on Jun 5, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Biggest accomplishment for an Indian this year.
by Cleveland Indians on Jun 5, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I want tosee Pavano toss a complete game shutout.Forget the bullpen.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jun 5, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wish June 14th was a Carl game, but I’ll take a Cliff. I can’t wait to see him bat.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
Anyone interested in picking up Tommy Glavine? He can’t be any worse than what we’ve seen from the bottom half of the rotation.
by Cleveland Indians on Jun 5, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Well since technically Fausto was our number 2, Glavine would be an improvement behind Lee.
by Cleveland Indians on Jun 5, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I likely will not be in tomorrow night’s game thread, so I need you guys to pass this along to Sowers for me:
Dear Jeremy,
Don’t pitch to Thome k thx bai.
vbc3
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Translated:
Dear Thome,
Screw you.
LGT
"I gotta be honest, I dunno much about the climate in Japan." - Matt Underwood
Go Trevor
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Just caught up with the thread….pretty upset that I missed Hawk’s beautiful silence during each of the home runs.
Nice AB by Barf
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
LETS GO CARL!
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by vbc3 on Jun 5, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is the greatest moment since Fausto used Sheffield’s head as a drum.
by Cleveland Indians on Jun 5, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Ballgame. Go Carl
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by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 5, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
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by FredOx on Jun 5, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is pretty sweet vindication for those of us who had enough sense to look beyond his ERA and see that Carl had been pitching pretty well all season (except his first game of course).
by supermarioelia on Jun 5, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So, everyone who follows the Indians? Or just everyone here? I don’t think appreciation of Pavano’s performance this season is all that controversial.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 6, 2009 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
No. The issue isn’t really ERA as a stat, as the fact that we always are looking at season-to-date numbers. We say, “his ERA has been over 5.00 all year,” but that statement doesn’t have much meaning.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 6, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
My point was simply that even casual fans (like my dad) recognize that Pavano has pitched well, despite his season-to-date ERA. I don’t see the need for vindication.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 7, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
And, this is my optimism, falling down a crevasse.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 6, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
rec!
If you believe it's just a game, you're also probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.
by LeftyCatcher on Jun 5, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
We could move up in the standings tomorrow!
If you believe it's just a game, you're also probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.
by LeftyCatcher on Jun 5, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
By Sunday night, we could be 1/2 game out of 3rd (White Sox) with the fading Royals coming to Cleveland.
by palcal on Jun 5, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec for where-did-that-come-from
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 6, 2009 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess we found our replacement for CC.
Carl Pavano 6-4 4.62 72 IP, 15 BB, 56 K
CC Sabathia 5-3 3.46 78 IP, 24 BB, 56 K
So of course it is reasonable to expect Okha to be a reasonable facsimile of 2007 Carmona.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Jun 5, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
The AL Central. Where amazing (sucking) happens.
Our season should be on life support, and somehow we’re only 6 back. This is awesome.
by supermarioelia on Jun 5, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently good game by Pavano and the Tribe. I’m off to look at the box score. I missed y’all while blowing whistles at trouble-making children who won’t stay off the wall between the lazy river and the rest of the pool. This was apparently a lot of fun and I should work parties more often I guess.
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Lazy river? You should stay out of the amusement parks and find a public pool where you can keep kids from having fun without the pangs of conscience. Take it from a former professional lifesaver.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 6, 2009 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
What conscience? They know the rules. They deserve to be yelled at.
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Amusement Park? MTF hasn’t been to a public pool lately. Unless you actually work at an amusement park, in which case I feel a little stupid.
I can honestly say I’ve never been to a public pool with a lazy river. And without getting too political, I’d like those tax dollars back, thank you very much.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 6, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a public pool. Almost every public pool in St. Louis County has one. And Webster’s a fairly old pool. It’s had a lazy river for as long as I can remember.
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The public pool from where we lived in St. Louis County ($215 for a season pass for a family of four):
That’s nice. Here’s ours:
http://www.webstershrewsburychamber.com/picts/wgpool.jpg
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