Game Thread: June 9, 2009
by Ryan on Jun 9, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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INDIANS (25-34): CF Ben Francisco, 3B Jamey Carroll, 1B Victor Martinez, RF Shin-Soo Choo, LF Mark DeRosa, DH Travis Hafner, C Kelly Shoppach, SS Luis Valbuena, 2B Josh Barfield. LHP Cliff Lee (3-6, 2.96).
ROYALS (24-32): CF Coco Crisp, LF David DeJesus, 1B Billy Butler, RF Jose Guillen, DH Mike Jacobs, 2B Alberto Callaspo, 3B Mark Teahen, C Miguel Olivo, SS Willie Bloomquist. RHP Brian Bannister (4-3, 4.97).
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Which means you’d have to sit DeRosa or Choo if he went OF, which wouldn’t happen either.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
Pretty sure he played the outfield in the last Cliff start.
by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you understand the concept of SSS, but .353 isn’t especially amazing considering it’s only 17 ABs
Yeah but it’s more the absence of crappiness that’s attractive.
by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, I mean we should combine the two.
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Could we sign Crow?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 9, 2009 7:07 PM EDT reply actions
Why didn’t he sign last year? What’s the story there?
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, never mind. Man, Moore has some cojones.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 9, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Can anyone tell me why Peralta isn’t playing? (I missed the Eric Wedge interview.) Is he injured?
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
THE INDIANS ARE ON THE CLOCK
/Wilbon
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 9, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions
Yahoo says: White falling to the Indians is great for the Tribe. White could be called up this season and come out of the bullpen and help immediately. He projects as a solid No. 2 pitcher with several above average pitches.
Truth?
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
hal reynolds…this guy could be in the ML bullpen NEXT YEAR
really? i guess i might be able to pitch in this bullpen next year, so maybe that’s not such a stretch
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I just un-muted Audio. Is Hammy just reading BA on the air?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 9, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions
Wow the Royals got a steal in Aaron Crow.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
It’s about time I got back to studying for my damn license. LGT.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 9, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
Bryan and I both get it right as Cleveland takes Alex White. Looking at where we were 10 hours ago, there must be a ton of high fives right now in Cleveland’s draft room — crazy great get at 15, and he’s signable.
Dug this up from an Unfiltered post I filed in Omaha last year:
"After the game, [Fresno State coach] Mike Batesole said he would be “shocked if Alex White doesn’t go first in the draft next year.” It’s hyperbole, but it’s amazing what White has done. A starter all year, Mike Fox called on White in relief for three consecutive days. He didn’t have his best stuff today, but all weekend we saw a 93-96 mph fastball and a wicked slider. Steven Strasburg is in another tier, which Batesole might not realize, but Alex White certainly joins Grant Green as the guys right behind Strasburg. It will be a good year to draft in the top five, if nothing else."
When the slider is good, like it was last year, he has three nasty pitches, a big frame, and a floor as a legit Major League reliever. Is it bad I like 11-15 more than 2-6?
From BP’s roundtable with Goldstein, cross-posted from Draft thread.
i mean, that sounds pretty positive, no?
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
i officially hate brett favre. i hope he melts.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you guys give me a scouting report on Derek Shelton?
I’m watching DeRo consistently swing at 2-0 and 3-1 pitches, even if they are pitchers’ strikes. During the last three seasons, he was perfectly willing (and good at) to hit with 2 strikes. Does Shelton particularly preach not striking out? Not striking out seems to be in DeRo’s head and he isn’t walking at all — he’s making sure to put the ball in play — badly — earlier in the count.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
Hmmm…..
DeRo must not have gotten the memo….
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
DeRo probably thinks he can do more for his free agent value by increasing his home run total rather than take more walks
Interesting theory…
But the pitches he’s swinging at (low and away) aren’t HR pitches. Wouldn’t he get as good a pitch 2-1 as 2-0?
I wonder if he’s thinking more about being traded. The fact that his name came out so early with Shapiro not denying it, and the fact that Wedge refuses to play him at 2B have to be messing with his head. He hates playing OF and 1B, but that’s about all he’s done in the last month.
"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007
I hate the Royals. I hate the entire AL Central. I hate baseball! :(
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
The sky has not fallen, guys. Couple of runs, that’s all.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
That’s sort of a misconception. I mean, he dominated us in his first start of the year but he wasn’t very good in his second. That’s just this year, though.
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up but I just missed it – he say anything interesting?
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely not.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if they’re thinking on Carroll’s trade value. Multi-position infielder! Legit 2-hole hitter! Fixes ball marks and replaces his divots!
by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions
you have to give our scrappy white guys credit: they really turn it on right before they get traded upping their value. broussard, blake and now jamey
He could have been if he tried harder
by Roger Dorn on Jun 9, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Think there’s an extra “s” in there.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He looked really smooth while he was doing it, though.
by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I notice no ladies in the draft thread. Things like that are interesting to me.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Really, I just wanted to see our first pick.
by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Chocolate pretzels.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever you say. Beyond my expertise.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It is regular chocolate. Milk chocolate ruins regular chocolate. Milk chocolate is nasty.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Mass produced American milk chocolate is nasty. Higher-end milk chocolate is gooooood.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
I’m bowing out gracefully with my love of chocolate untainted and unharmed..
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
I don’t have MLB network either, plus I’m running back and forth between the computer room and the kitchen where I’m cleaning up after a rather large wooden shelf fell to the floor and sent tons of food flying (I suspect one of our c*ts).
I’ll check it later. I usually read all of the threads, eventually.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
I’ve been following the minors pretty heavily for seven or eight years, and I still see no point in following the draft.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I gave it a shot this year to watch the Indians pick and even that might be the last time I watch any of it
I don’t see the point of having guys like Fryman there if they don’t even announce the picks.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ellis burks could not possibly have looked any more bored when they flashed to the indians table. they may actually have been playing scrabble.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine why MLB thinks that they can popularize their draft. Putting it on MLBN is fine, since they have their own network, but football and basketball are pulling their players from extremely popular sports (college football and college basketball) in their own rights. Baseball is doing no such thing, just by the sport’s nature.
Il faut d'abord durer.
That, and the fact that the guys won’t be playing in the majors for years. There’s no source of interest and no reason to follow the draft.
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll just see who they get at the end I see no reason to watch it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I’m being slightly facetious here. There’s a great reason to follow the draft, because it’s a great way to get talent into the system.
As far as studying up/knowing the players beforehand, meh.
Steel Nick
That last sentence … that is following the draft.
You’re not following the draft, you’re just following players that we drafted.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant watch, not follow. Like I mentioned in the other thread, there is no feasible way, even for knowledgeable fans, to be able to evaluate and/or root for certain picks when they are made, unlike in the other, more popular drafts. Without this, there is no difference between watching the draft and just finding out later who your team selected and doing your research then.
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
a friend of mine is in the cardinals war room, so i was watching to see him.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it me or do these Stanely cup games fall almost exclusively on the same nights as other, big NBA playoff games? Could they not have planned better? I’d love to watch both but it’s just too hard, and I’ll always choose the NBA given the choice. I doubt I’m alone.
you’re talking about a series that got bumped from NBC for “i’m a celebrity, get me out of here” last week. the people at the wheel are dramatically and aggressively asleep.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah I didn’t know about that. I am a very casual hockey fan but it’s one of the few sports I can watch without a vested interest in one of the teams involved. And it’s spectacular on HD.
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Valbuena!
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Ha, the Marlins take the ceremonial first-guy-that-MLB-didn’t-bother-write-a-profile-for.
by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions
And the ChiSox take another under-sized speedy center fielder with no power. Just can’t get enough of that.
by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
I’m glad it’s not Arnett for us. Those late jumps in velocity worry me.
by fleerdon on Jun 9, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubtful. I’ve had lots of bad days and watched the Indians and sometimes they’ve won.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
One idea for popularizing the draft: hold it in the offseason. Every other sport has seemingly figured out that, when fans are starved for news about their teams, the draft fills a deep void. Any thoughts? I’m sure there are reasons it is held in June, but I don’t know what they are.
doesn’t rookie ball start in a couple of weeks? i think that’s part of it.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
So start it in April with the rest of the minor leagues. More I think about it, the more I like it. What harm would this do to the players?
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
They also like to wait until after high school’s over and college is basically over.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Yeah, I guess it would make it harder for players who need to make decisions about schools. But would it be the worst thing to have an ‘declaring for the draft’ component like the NBA has? As in, a player has to declare for the draft and, once he does so, he’s committed to the draft.
by jakesinger777 on Jun 9, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess the issue would be integrating young players into the system. if you draft in the offseason…then you’re selecting the guys who are going today in november…and they’re not in your system until next feb/march, i think. not saying you’re wrong, just thinking through why they do it the way they do.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I really don’t like Mike Jacobs. I really don’t know why.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Hey guys, the last player just drafted is a hitter. He can hit. He can play.
—Almost exact quote.
Steel Nick
man, i gotta tell you guys…the scouting bureau really likes that this guy plays baseball.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
They had him and an accountant on their board. There was a lot of tense discussion in the war room.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jun 9, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s just bullshit. Mark was off the bag.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
That was not an impressive display of range. He fell over on a ball he didn’t need to dive for. The delay of having to get up and throw cost him the out.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Have you ever played SS? There is no way he gets that without a dive.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
He didn’t dive. He reached for it, caught it and fell over.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately I don’t have the DVR in my room so I can’t further dispute this. But on the two replays it looked like he sprawled out for it.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I don’t see it but that could be because I just know what they are so I know what I’m looking for.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Nah he would have joined in the K parade.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I have faith in Grady. He would have done something awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I’m really negative these days.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
I can’t decide if that girl who just sang the anthem in the NBA game is cute or not. She seemed kinda creepy.
First and Third.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Please don’t fail, please don’t fail, please don’t fail…
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Victor is just a ballplayer. He knows how to hit. Good frame for a baseball player, which is what he is.
Steel Nick
If you cut off both his arms and legs he’d have the best torso in baseball.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
by mjschaefer on Jun 9, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Haha. Idiot Royals announcer called the double play too early.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Are you getting FSRoyals?
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Remember when Hafner hit like 243 grand slams? good stuff.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
what was really amazing was that he had 243 bases loaded plate appearances in a row. not many people mention the slim-ish odds on that…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking… ClemsonGirl, you started watching the Tribe in 07, right? So that means you never really watched Pronk when it was like watching a man amongst boys, bummer.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
I would stand with you to the death on it. That’s what made him so great, if you wanted to get him out, you had to throw him a legitimate strike because he was never afraid to hit with 2 strikes either.
I know after 06 there was some baseball stats study that said he had the best strike zone, or awareness of zone, or w/e in all of baseball.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
I thought what made him so great was how he hit nothing but line drives for five months.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
bill braske once hit a double AND a homerun in the same at bat!
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Royals being Indians!
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
There life is in your hands!
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Shrek.
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
What are you guys doing? You’re missing the freaking draft! There’s less than 30 picks until the Indians are up again.
Steel Nick
if it’s not a sandwich round, then leave me alone
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee still in here?
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
Vizcaino
Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute
And now, on the pretense that Rafael Perez is good … Rafael Perez.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Off for home to assist in the Great Kitchen Clean-up and Recovery Operation.
Which likely means “mopping.”
LGT.
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Force quit and move to trash.
I can only speculate, but it looks like one of our c*ts tried to jump on a wooden shelf we had hanging on the kitchen wall that housed cans and boxes of food. Somehow it crashed to the floor and some dented cans of salmon and tuna leaked (lovely). A couple of containers of broth completely emptied, too.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
im not gonna lie. i replaced Droobs with Jamie Carroll on my fantasy team.
No one else decent available.
/Drinks
War is hell. We all want someone to keep warm at night.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew it was legit.
I am that funny.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but it couldn’t hurt.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This is underused here.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you can just STFU then.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the first (and possibly) time I courted a girl over IM. When she hit me with the ROFLMAO, I knew I was in.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I was never much of an IM-er, but fact is, I was better at flirting and sweet-talking over IM than in person. She liked to IM, I went with it.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I was talking to a drunk girl on IM back in the day, and she started typing everything backwards. Amazing focus.
Steel Nick
And you’re sure she was the drunk one?
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Honest. I was mildly interested in her at the start of the conversation. When she switched it around (and typing Matchbox 20 lyrics backward, no less), color me intrigued.
Steel Nick
I once had an entire conversation with a girl over IM in iambic pentameter…. It was both super-geeky and pretty hot.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 10, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I did a lot of this in college. Flirting is so much easier than in person…
by Logodaedalus on Jun 10, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions
A guy named Brad Boxburger was just drafted by Cincinnati at #43. Here is what Yahoo has to say about him:
The buzz: A “crafty right hander”, if you will. Has the ability to be a starter but most likely a long reliever.
Um, great pick guys.
At the bustling Pi pizza restaurant in St. Louis, the staff has come up with a new mantra: “It’s just pizza!”
… ever since news came out that Barack Obama loved this pizza so much during a campaign stop, the owners were invited to recreate it in the White House ovens.
“We tell them it’ll be two to four hours, and they say, OK!” says owner Chris Sommers
I’d never wait 4 hours for pizza unless I ordered it 4 hours before I wanted it.
FE WEE
well, maybe that’s why you’re not the president…
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez would have gotten out number 2 and then used it in disgusting ways.
by Logodaedalus on Jun 10, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s June.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Jun 9, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Up is next on my list. very excited to see that one. got talked out of it and into The Hangover the other night…pretty good. many laughs, but silly, as you’d expect.
by DontCallMeJoey on Jun 9, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You are a steeley eyed missle man.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
by USSChoo on Jun 9, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What a strange and wonderful thing to have said….
by Logodaedalus on Jun 10, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
DeRosa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jun 9, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
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