Game Thread: July 1, 2009
by Ryan on Jul 1, 2009 6:45 PM EDT
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Chicago White Sox at Cleveland Indians, Jul 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
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INDIANS (31-48): SS Asdrubal Cabrera, CF Grady Sizemore, C Victor Martinez, RF Shin-Soo Choo, 3B Jhonny Peralta, DH Travis Hafner, 1B Ryan Garko, 2B Jamey Carroll, LF Ben Francisco. LHP Jeremy Sowers (2-5, 5.44).
WHITE SOX (39-38): LF Scott Podsednik, SS Alexei Ramirez, RF Jermaine Dye, DH Jim Thome, 1B Paul Konerko, C Ramon Castro, 2B Jayson Nix, 3B Gordon Beckham, CF Brian Anderson. RHP Jose Contreras (2-7, 5.19).
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(lineups ganked from the Castrovince blog)
Note that the White Sux have won more games than they have lost. That’s kinda neat.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hafner? Three days in a row? The skies sing Hosanna!
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wedge is really big on tonight’s lineup: he sang its praises a couple of different times during the pre-game interview.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is our best lineup. Especially with Shoppach batting worse than Garko.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather see Muybuena, but that’s entirely subjective.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swap Buena for Carroll and LaPorta for Francisco, and that’s a likely Opening Day lineup for 2010. I guess maybe you also swap in Shoppach for Garko.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see that photo and think “why don’t we have automatic tarps?”
1985 NLCS style.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It looks to me like Francisco is about to get flattened.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that’s one way to keep him out of the lineup.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“SHHHHH, everybody roll quietly….good….nice and quiet….almost there…shhhh…almost got him…OH CRAP HE SAW US!”
I like how one of the guys is wearing a rally cap.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fausto
I really enjoy reading your guys comments … its pretty much the highlight of my day after the indians lose … wondering what your thoughts on fausto coming back so quickly and dominating the lower leagues is. i think he should stay in AAA until his arm falls off … but who knows. im not a coach.
by jsneides on Jul 1, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the losing obviously not being a highlight … i felt i should clarify
by jsneides on Jul 1, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we’re all surprised at how soon he pitched in AA.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lofgren goes tonight, Stowell got roughed up in about 3 IP, and House pitched 5 scoreless, but only struck out 1.
Oh, and Edell pitches tonight.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stowell isn’t really a 3 IP guy, right?
Also – Santo Frias!
And what happened to Jonathan Holt this year? Yikes. It’s like Fausto was his pitching coach this spring.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Here’s how you throw the pitch. Throw it as hard as you can. And go with your emotions.”
by odradek on Jul 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they have Stowell on a low pitch count due to some arm issues. He has thrown about that number of innings in most of his outings, if memory serves.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant it the other way. That he’s starting just get experience, but that he’ll be a pen guy.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, I see. I don’t know much about him, but he was pretty highly touted.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a chance he could end up in the pen, but last I heard they hoped to try him as a starter first. It would be a durability issue if they moved him to relief, probably not a stuff issue.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um I am reading this article about women sportswriters and I have come to this conclusion: Men are jerks. No offense everyone.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is the article written by a man or a woman
by jsneides on Jul 1, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man and a woman. looks like a husband and wife team. It’s actually a study it would be hard to put bias in it I think. It was written in 1995 though so it may be a little outdated.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe so, but our haircuts are cheaper.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Knuckle bump.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well some of your haircuts are cheaper.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some do but I was referring to the men who get expensive haircuts.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you asking me? You cannot say that some men do not get haircuts that cost more than my average price for a woman’s haircut.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure. Just wondering what you would consider expensive. 20? 40? 100?
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine are usually around 100-150. That’s actually below average with coloring (which I get). I would think there a lot of men (metro etc.) who get haircuts that cost over 200.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
holy shit
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next, ask her about swimsuits. “It’s LESS FABRIC than a guy’s suit, how can it be MORE EXPENSIVE?”
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This ticks me off. I also hate how one piece is around $17 and then you have to buy the other for $17 too. Just put them together for like 25 seriously.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is actually one of my favorite lines to drop when a conversation with a girl stalls out. “I got a new pair of board shorts last week and I was thinking they’re SO expensive…” And then I just get out of the way.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord. That’s like a dozen haircuts for me.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s more than I spend in 3-4 years.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to pay for the time (1-2 hours), the labor, and the products they use.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hours… I get fidgety after 15 minutes
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My hairdresser is almost my age exactly; she’s been doing my hair since high school. She started out at the Dillard’s salon, now she works at some ritzy place. I told her if she upgrades again, we’re through.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I can say I’ve never laid down 200 for a haircut, but I do get mine cut at a salon. But only because I know the guy.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
Seriously, what? Jesus.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s why my mom refuses to pay for them now. She has short curly hair that is easy to cut so it costs her like $7. My hair looks awful if I just go to Great Clips so I go to a salon.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I have long hair.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t grow my hair long. I want long hair so bad but it gets to about my shoulders and just gets ugly.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flowbee!
I work with a guy who I swear uses one of those to cut his hair.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about posting the Nick Cage “Raising Arizona” haircut.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m trying to remember the most I’ve spent on a haircut, but my memory sucks.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(refuses to make fun of my dad in public)
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting my bangs trimmed costs about $4 for me.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just got back not long ago from seeing Public Enemies. It was “meh”.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad day. I was hoping it was really good.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not bad, but not great either.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll probably see it anyway. One of my best friends is obsessed with Christian Bale so we are almost guaranteed to see it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do people still have things for celebrities?
Trade Cliff.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently so.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean? Channing Tatum is the hottest guy I have seen on the planet behind Grady in my opinion. Like those kinds of things?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That movie came out? I missed it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually hoping it’d just be a carbon copy of Never Back Down, because that blended the mindless movie + action well. Fighting was trying to be something it wasn’t, an underground drama without the substance.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d probably fall for it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the only film I’ve seen with him in it.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m tempted to match your sig with a “Trade Victor” one, but I shall resist.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would actually hurt me. (The trade, not the sig.)
Trade Cliff.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree. But it would be a better team in 2010, by possibly a lot.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s possibly true. Think the Teixeira deal.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’d be going Shoppach-Giminez until Carlos is ready to play every day mid-season or so?
Trade Cliff.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toregas would get thrown in that mix, too. Good defender, bat is coming along.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something I’ve been meaning to touch on. Toregas is 26. We can’t project his hitting.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t realize he was that old, good point.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. So that “finally almost 800-ish if you squint” OPS is really a “no that’s still a 550 MLE.”
I don’t have anything against the guy, but he’s a defensive back-up.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you’re just being silly, but it’s really a 700 MLE. But yes, defense back-up.
by dgcambridge on Jul 2, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was entertained enough, but The Untouchables was better.
I’m gonna say it now: for all of his acting qualities, Christian Bale is just flat-out boring as a hero.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well The Untouchables is held in high regard, so that isn’t a terrible thing to not be as good as it. I wasn’t/am not too excited for Bale in that role
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Bale is definitely not a reason to see it (hell, I thought his Texas G-men were far more interesting, but you rarely get to hear a lot from them).
That said, whenever Johnny Depp is onscreen, the movie really picks up.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Johnny Depp was pretty good. He didn’t chew the scenery, and I half expected that with the subject matter.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, it’s directed by Michael Mann, so you can be sure it is going to at least look fantastic.
by JimmyAB on Jul 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda funny, that: I was almost surprised to see his name at the end. Must have been the lack of neon on wet sidewalks. :)
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOOOOOVE the Michael Mann Miami Vice motion picture. Nobody in the movie can read a line for squat, but it looks so ridiculously awesome.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you KIDDING ME? Perhaps it looked good, but man, that movie was atrocious. There were some serious editing problems there. I walked out on it.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The dialogue is laughable; it’s part of the charm. I don’t like it because it’s good.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it’s worth a second chance. I was kind of lead to walk out on it because we realized another movie we wanted to see was starting in like ten minutes.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got the director’s cut on DVD, and my eye doesn’t catch any editing problems as such. But I’m a sucker for boat chases.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I probably also go into Jamie Foxx movies with a negative attitude towards it, aside from Collateral, which I thought I’d hate and was amazed how much I liked it.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is positively on fire in MV. “Jamie Foxx serious thespian face…ENGAGED!”
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Collateral, but the happy ending was so tacked-on. There’s no way the Cruise character in real life gets himself into a standoff on a train.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well no doubt, but with how big that movie was, it would have alienated a lot of viewers to end it logically. But for most of it I loved it. Speaking of thrillers, though, for some reason I recently watched Finder’s Fee, written and directed by Jeff Probst. I was expecting the most pretentious movie ever. But I actually really enjoyed it. Tiny budget, entire thing takes place in one night, in one location. But I like that. Worth checking out. Has Ryan Reynolds, Matt Lillard and James Earl Jones.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love Matt Lillard. I went through a weird week and a half where I rented like four straight Lillard movies from Netflix.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“That is the hand we have been dealt at eleven fifty-three p.m.”
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the technical side, there were quite a few parts where I really just couldn’t hear/understand what people were saying. I’m not sure it was an audio mixing problem, or the actors speaking too fast. That was irritating, as well.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go, Jeremy!
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This might contradict my statement.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snap out of it man! What’s wrong with you!
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, I meant Piven! Yeah!
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody’s said anything about tonight’s game yet. Can we keep that up?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t want to ruin whatever Jeremy is doing lately. As of now I’d put him in next year’s rotation. That is something I never thought I’d say.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ Contreras’ numbers against us. Of course.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like how a Hooters girl shows up for Jeremy Sowers on Google Images. Playerrr.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He just really likes buffalo wings.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be pretty awesome if Jeremy secretly hung out in seedy strip clubs all the time.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I like to take it slow, ladies, like my fastball suggests”
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“But the third time around I’ll lose my magic”
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh snap.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll add to this periodically throughout the game, trying to keep it appropriate
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“When I get tired, I start missing”
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“You might want to flip me while you can get away it.”
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“JRontherim claims I’m a better long man than Zach Jackson”
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is nasty.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Line of dialogue from the show my kids are watching:
The real problem is that you’re insane.Describes us, pretty well, game threading this pile of stinking…
by FredOx on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What show are they watching?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprisingly I don’t watch that show. I watch all kinds of Disney shows and stuff. I never liked the Nick live action stuff though.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that’s old. I meant now. Like the comparable shows to Sonny with a Chance and Wizards of Waverly place. I don’t like the Drake and Josh and iCarly stuff.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was watching the Kenan and Kel made for TV movie on Youtube recently. Man do I miss Kel’s antics.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My daughter loves iCarly. She liked Drake and Josh, too, but not after Josh had his gastric bypass surgery, Fat Josh was funnier. Miranda Cosgrove is actually moderately funny as far as it goes (anyone remember School of Rock?). But my brain has been dulled by raising a 6 year old.
by FredOx on Jul 1, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fat Josh was better. And I like Miranda Cosgrave but I just don’t get the shows as much as I do the Disney ones.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game threading is a pretty loose description though.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Been meaning to go get my boombox and turn the game on. Haven’t got to that yet.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing loose about Hooters and Flowbees.
by FredOx on Jul 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But take a Flowbee to Hooters and watch the sparks fly!
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, Sowers has two or three halfway-decent starts, I think he gets flipped. People are talking seriously about signing Paul Byrd.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really? I would think that if Sowers shows that he’s capable of stretches of decency, he’ll be pretty valuable to the Indians in the future, with as little pitching depth as they have. Though I guess he’ll be out of options.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, he’s a lot less useful if you have to keep him on the 25-man. But also, if he has a nice stretch here, do you really feel comfortable projecting that into, “Okay, he’s a reasonable AL starter now”? I don’t. In this market, I pull the trigger.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree. He scares me to death. If someone else wants to play with fire, let them.
by dgcambridge on Jul 1, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given his June performance, I think he’s a fine Scott Elarton type. You can do better, but you could do worse.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having to keep him on the 25-man is problematic, to be sure. I guess it depends on whether Lee is traded. If not, you have Lee, Westbrook, Carmona (hopefully), Laffey, Huff, with Lewis, Rondon, Jackson (and Reyes?) in AAA. That might be okay. But if Lee goes, and you don’t get 2010 ML ready material in return, I think you stick Sowers in there as your #5 starter — at least for the first part of the season. Maybe you trade him later on in 2010 then when Rondon or whoever is ready to come up.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’m assuming we move a lot of guys and get more arms hangin around. I’m also of a mind that we should get value for Jeremy while we can. 2010 may well be too late.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might be right… I’d need to see what kind of arms end up hanging around before I could decide. Of the guys that have a reasonable chance of being traded, though, I would think only Lee and Martinez would get us SP that could help in 2010. Possibly Jhonny could bring a depth option that could slot above Jackson, but probably not a guy who makes the top 5.
I was trying to think about how valuable Sowers would be if we tried to trade him mid-next year…. I would think the options situation wouldn’t be too big of a factor, since he’d likely be going somewhere where they need him immediately. It’s one fewer year of control, and maybe he’s pitching worse than he is now…but again, with our pitching depth situation being what it is, that tradeoff might be worth it. Besides, there’s always a chance he keeps pitching like this, and becomes more valuable.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, and I expect to trade at least one of Lee or Martinez.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but even then…. the most recent talk about Martinez anyway involved high ceiling single-A/high-A guys, not near-ML prospects. I’m sure there are trades out there where we could get potential 2010 front-half-of-the-rotation guys, but I haven’t heard especially serious suggestions along those lines… Maybe if we trade Lee to Texas?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies have been mentioned in passing regarding Lee. I don’t know much about their pitching prospects, but I believe a couple of them are advanced above A+ ball.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be very interested to know more about this.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Names are Drabek and Carrasco, Carrasco is 22 in AAA with decent peripherals, giving up about a hit an inning as the only red flag.
Drabek’s numbers in 60IP in high A were very good, but since he made the jump to AA he has been “meh” in about 30 IP.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carrasco sounds interesting…. Does he get ground balls?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so much w/ the GB. 1.21 GO/AO. About a K/IP, and over 3/1 K/BB.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That seems okay, with as many strikeouts as he gets…
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I agree. About here is where I start looking around for scouting reports, because it seems like he is a good bet for MLB success.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This. Somehow.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what do y’all think of women in the sports journalism field?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Competence is all I care about. Whether it’s a he or she, or whatever their lineage, all I care about is “are you any good at what you do?”
Boring answer, but there you go.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But a good answer.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ll have to give that question some context. Female sports journalists doing … what?
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paying for haircuts.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jul 1, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The articles I’m reading are about writers. But really anything. You know an Erin Andrews or sportscaster.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly have watched all of three Erin Andrews interviews in my life. I will say I think female interviewers tend to get less defensive responses out of athletes.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with that. That could be because of one article I read that says female writers tend to write more positive than negative articles.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just say “yes”. It will curtail any expected drama.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I just don’t have an opinion on woman doing any job in and of itself. How do I feel about women taxi drivers? How do I feel about women pilots? How do I feel about women window washers?
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do I feel about women taxi drivers
The taxi small talk will be harder to get out of.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was a Pakistani woman, would she also be on her mobile phone speaking Punjabi the entire ride?
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is more common now. I was reading something written in the early 90’s so it’s a little outdated.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this…. It’s hard to imagine a reasonable person saying that women shouldn’t be sportscasters (or almost anything else)
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have heard it before, but it’s usually from really old men.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After hearing Cris Carter guest host on Mike and Mike on Monday, I’m fine with anyone covering sports. And that is coming from someone who really liked Carter as an athlete. But damn did he sound like an idiot.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But in the sports newsrooms. Women apparently are often treated like they don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s getting better but I think it still exists to a certain extent.
For example: “Men do not trust my answers. Even though they have checked and confirmed my facts in the past they still have no confidence in me.”
“You have to be 100% accurate or you will be considered a dumb broad whereas mistakes by men are sloughed off and rarely addressed with gender-based language.”
“Men can come out and be an expert; I have to be nice and smart.”
All quotes from women in the sports journalism field.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t doubt that women have a hard time of it because of these prejudices. But presumably most of the prejudices are relatively unconscious, or at least would not be openly admitted to.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this question is akin to a woman asking “do I look fat in this dress?” It’s a no-win situation for the person required to answer.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of doubt a sports journalist of either gender could be cavalier about his or her job security right now.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the supervisors are generally very supportive of women because they generally write better only because they feel they have to so no one ever said anything about being worried about job security. It’s just the other male writers who say things.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone get on as ridiculously as he did with that check swing business.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willy Mays Hayes?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HR: Marte, A (10, 2nd inning off Drucker, 0 on, 1 out).
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently I felt it was quicker to copy and paste that rather than phrasing it in my own diction.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DandyMarte: peripherals pesmishables (7:48 p.m.)
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And here comes Ben Francisco to ground into a 5-4-3 double play.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or just a double.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And here comes Ben Francisco to ground intoa 5-4-3doubleplay.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jul 1, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shouldn’t “into” be — and not “a”?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but that’s what I get for neglecting the preview button.
I'm not really into Song of Hiawatha.
by sarcasmdave on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
zz
I continue to be under the impression that Jamey Carroll is sort of good.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As is the thin second-base trade market.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord, I think we’re trading everybody.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think we can get the Mariners Moose for Slider/
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if we throw in a prospect and some salary.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been more than happy with him as a utility man. I bet there’s something useful we can get.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and, I should add, he would be a fine starting 2B on lots of teams.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember when we had a real utility man problem. Those were the days.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is probably why I want to resign him.
Trade Cliff.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to re-sign him too.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s an age issue here. Jamey’s value is largely in defense, and he’s gonna be 36. I mean, yes, good help is hard to find, but not THAT hard.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’d only want to resign him if he was really cheap. Which he might be, I guess….
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Ronnie Belliard’s return a good measure?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Ronnie couldn’t play shortstop, couldn’t play center field, and really couldn’t play second any more by the time he left.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he always seemed to be in mid-right center field.
by JimmyAB on Jul 1, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luna? I would think Carroll is more valuable than that.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve already come out in favor of resigning him.
Trade Cliff.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s go, Stroobs!
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Manning: “Benny’s been on a prolonged slump.”
As in, his whole career.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Minus his first week and any starts against Tampa Bay.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Uncle Eric is her neice.” Nice work Rick Manning. Make me laugh again.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baboo scores.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey – situational hitting. How ’bout that?
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
.312
Man, that .400 spell was fun.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man does that John Cena song get annoying.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I often laugh at him. He tries so hard but it just goes nowhere.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slow, but darn accurate. I can’t remember the last time I saw him miss a cut-off man.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is true. At least he knows he needs to be able to make accurate throws since they won’t get there very fast.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he got together with Damon they could make a great comedy duo.
by JimmyAB on Jul 1, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice escape, Sowers.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Johnny Damon’s late career power is baffling.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
314*
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You would be too if you were losing to Jeremy Sowers.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we trade Lee and wind up being competitive next year, we’re gonna be sitting here in July 2010 dying to trade for one of those Cliff Lees.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll trust the radio on this: DROOBS!
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera saved a run there.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeremy is going to pay for Asdrubal’s cover charge for the strip club later.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of Asdrubal being a married man and not wanting to go but Jeremy getting really furious.
YOU ARE COMING WITH ME, ASDRUBAL. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
cute angry Jeremy stare
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t it his wife who gave him/made the necklace he wears?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup!
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the idea of Asdrubal being a married man and not wanting to go
I know for a fact this would not be the case with Asdrubal.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?! Details!
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know a few “Baseball Annies”.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this thread is teetering.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said I had quality information. Just seedy.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tied. Bleh.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
…and Ramirez gets tagged out going for a double. Ha ha.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Asdrubal is balling tonight. Two great plays in a row.
Also, the fauxhawk is poking from beneath his cap.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Droobs is always a baller.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like his fauxhawk. But is it really faux? I think it’s a legit mohawk.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it a fauxhawk? The last time I saw his hair, it was actually shaved on the sides.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looked to me like there was the hair on the sides, which is faux to me.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought a fauxhawk was when the strip of hair down the middle was sculpted into a spike without the surrounding hair being shaved.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s certainly a faux but I also think having two levels of hair is pretty faux. A mohawk involves a bald head and a strip of hair, at least in my book.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a friend who had a rather large blue mohawk. She worked for Penthouse Magazine in NYC (as a graphic artist) and said that at least once a week some random guy in a business suit would stop her in the building (usually in the elevators) and ask how much her “services” were. Like a foot long blue mohawk in NYC is the secret code for “kinky prostitute” no matter where it appears.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had the same problem working as a bank teller in Toledo.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
people confused you for a prostitute?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
blue mohawks:NYC::neckties and collared shirts:Toledo
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you mean collard?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for me, if you’re going to wear a collard shirt it should be green
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow a mohawk on a woman does not scream sexual appeal. But maybe that’s just me.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it was blue.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes please. /sarcasm
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She’s a very beautiful girl, but yeah, she looks much better without the mohawk.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is where Cody would post two pics.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I’m looking for a picture of her I can even post here.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a good sign for her.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, JRontherim’s got the gist.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
she’s a guy?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No… her other job is “alternative model”.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I meant.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the guys in the elevator might have been onto something?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, at the time she wasn’t doing this. She was just airbrushing pimples off of the magazine girl’s rears.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quick! Before the mods arrive! Andrew, cover your eyes.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m more afraid that I’ve seen her already.
/ducks
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
OK, just google search the name “Darenzia”, and be warned.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um… ahem.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She is pretty.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“premiere”
fo real?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They all seem to do that. I knew another girl who overnight was an “International Gothic Model” because a friend of her took some arty pictures in an abandoned warehouse.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, puffery at its best.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is her name Storm, or something sexy like that?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, she above.
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by salome on Jul 1, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked you politely.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, because I’ve NEVER looked at girls in latex while watching baseball before.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know something, thinking about it seriously, I haven’t.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Female names increase in sexual appeal by the nature of their natural disaster. Storm is good, Earthquake is better. 10 Plagues of Egypt is ideal.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dogs and cats, living together… mass hysteria
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What gist? I think I meant the same thing.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh, this J-Ron comment… I said the dude thing because of the dude you posted above.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romero’s looking scary.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alexei Ramirez is inherently smug. He can’t help it; it’s his bone structure.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody here real the ShysterBall recaps on THT? Calcaterra’s only going to recap Indians’ losses with “Major League” quotes until Wedge is fired or the team wins three straight.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I had the opportunity to work with him once in his lawyerly capacity. He is, very simply, a great dude.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off on a Red Robin run for “wow, a victory” burgers. LGT.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does my MLB.tv still think the inning hasn’t started?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mine does too.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random MLB shop commercial after seeing an Indian at the plate is not friend.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it flickered on for a moment and then went to a commercial
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does it matter what umpires say when they call a strike? I’d say “balk” every time just to see if anybody noticed.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Aaron Rowand. We’re whining about Aaron Rowand, Hammy?
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now it’s back, and there are two outs already!
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think mine just totally skipped the half inning.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I missed the whole thing!
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d hit refresh just before… maybe that’s what brought it back.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We sucked that half inning. Accept it as a gift and move on.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it screwed me up. I was going to go to our 4th of July Fair and get food but now I have to wait until the next bottom half of an inning is over.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sowers is a big Musial fan. Didn’t want Thome passing him on the all-time walks list.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, you know who was awesome? Stan Musial.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stan the Man. The classic Busch Stadium meeting place.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thome running makes me laugh.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He probably walked.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ballgame.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should Sowers be considered for a bullpen option? Can his junk make him a decent 1-2 inning guy?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been suggesting this for a long time. I mean seriously, this is just getting ridiculous now. It’s pretty clear Sowers can make it through a lineup 1-2 times but its always that 5th inning where he implodes.
by world dictator on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no such thing as always when it comes to a pitcher. But for the most part I’d say yes he’s clearly been fine the first one or two times through a rotation
by world dictator on Jul 1, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a much better long man than Zach Jackson.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Logo…Jeremy Sowers is not our 5th starter next season.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m over it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has problems with the innings that have indicator #s over 4.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just caught up. You guys should all hold off on Sowers commentary for seven innings, minimum.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t buy that Sowers would be any good out of the bullpen. The only reason he does ok in short stints is because they’re in innings 1-3 or whatever where guys are settling in.
He’s nothing more than a mop up guy.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just got back from Oakland, where the A’s efficiently handled Verlander and the Tigers
5-1 in 2 hrs 18 min. Two 2-run homers (by Cust and Giambi). Verlander gave up 6 hits in 6 innings, striking out 6.
Braden went 7 innings and Ziegler and Bailey were impressive in closing out the game.
Indians beware. The A’s record is almost as bad as the Indians, but there are coming to Cleveland on the heels of a series victory over the Tigers, after losing their last 5 inter-league games.
by palcal on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Choo!
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good job Choo.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks again, Broussard.
His new album comes out soon, folks. Pick up a copy as a thank you for Choo.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, maybe we’ve learned something about going the opposite way from watching the White Sox tee off on Sowers.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What would our record be if every game had ended after the 5th?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know an awesome shortcut I found yesterday? -shift-L with something highlighted.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not doing anything for me… what’s supposed to happen?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s supposed to google whatever’s highlighted. i’ve already used it twice in this thread after discovering it yesterday.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s cool…. maybe you have to be in Safari? (I’m in Firefox)
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, yeah… I bet.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get it.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean this in the best way possible:
Is Choo conceivably the most athletic Korean of this generation? Ever?
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In a premiere-sorta-way? Yeah.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
L it made an L
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like for Perez to get another shot tonight.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m off to the fair for shish-ka-bobs and crab rangoons.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What kind of fair has both of those?
LGT's resident Beer Advocate.
by LGT Patrick on Jul 1, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Webster Groves Community Days. They are found at the Chinese restaurant’s booth.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crab rangoons are my most favorite fried appetizer
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA J Jurrjens 5.0 0 1 0 4 5 0 73-44 2.78
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’re so bad. Apropos of nothing, just saying.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes it’s good to just put it out there.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peralta: “That would’ve been mine if I were playing the position I’m supposed to be playing.”
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve decided it’s going to be Perez-L until he gets his ERA under 7. I think the comparison works better that way.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And congratulations, Jimbo.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Raffy Perez update: still hasn’t “found it.”
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That, and weather, at 11.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“And here’s Darenzia with today’s special comment …”
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
“In the markets, leather futures are waaay up”
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think she’s more a rubber gal.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point, my mistake.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This rss news feed gadget is depressing as hell.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jordan Brown is now hitting .327. Whatever. Bring him up.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea. Hard to argue Francisco over him, cool new nickname aside.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.869 OPS too
…like I’ve been saying he deserves a chance, or at least has trade value. But hey, I rep Garko too
by world dictator on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, glad that was Thome running.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Choo’s weakness strikes.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh for chrissake
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure that was a “big insurance run” when we won’t score again anyway.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You haven’t been paying attention to Wedge’s pre-ninth speeches.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Choo.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My mistake. Sorry.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Dillinger wants to know what the score is.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There was an interesting point that Malcolm Gladwell (who I generally think is a tool) made about how if you knew nothing about basketball but simply drafted players from Duke or UConn in the lottery, you’d have a pretty decent basketball team in the NBA anyway.
I wonder if there’s something similar axiom to be had about not bringing relievers over from the NL.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t this what the Bulls tried?
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of. Not really.
The bulls spent very high picks on high schoolers, as well as Tyrus Thomas. Also, Thabo. A lot of odd players.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Tyson Chandler (his draft rights, at least)
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss read “as well” as “such as” or something.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyrus Thomas beat Duke by himself. So he counts.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the most lackluster K ever.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Choo is a physically gifted defender but not an actually gifted defender.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So he’s not Korea’s Premiere Defender?
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once he gets the ball, he’s deadly.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The players are trying to help Wedge move up in the Manager Least Want to Play For rankings since they couldn’t vote for him themselves.
by palcal on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“You can’t catch what you don’t see.”
Herpes would like a word with you.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
His fastball isn’t that fast.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not the speed, it’s the late break.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RF/CF Sizemore, G.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side my chicken kabob and crab rangoons are really good. I’ve waited a whole year for them. They are so living up to the wait.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would but you aren’t in Webster.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t you beam them through the tubes or something?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not that talented. And if I gave some to you I would have to give some to everyone. And I just don’t have that much food.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get a musician vibe from Garko as well (Broussard being the other). Is he an underground MC or something?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet he was in an a cappella group at Stanford…
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man…we’ve only one 1 of our last 10 games
by world dictator on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m seriously trying to remember the last game we won. Last Friday?
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No clue.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bonus! I was supposed to get 3 Crab Rangoons and I got 4!
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this is good karma coming back to her.
by woodsmeister on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I’ll be returning it since I will be eating there every night for the next 3 days.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is so stupid.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree. It’s just weird at this point.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“….and every meal is a home run!”
I wonder if Rosie wishes he could do that line again. Man, that gets on my nerves.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know a lot about European trains and or those weird planes that fly around Europe?
I am trying to get from Copenhagen (or Oslo) to somewhere I can fly to Casablanca. I don’t want to screw with airports if I don’t have to.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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