Game Thread 2: July 1, 2009
by Ryan on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM EDT
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Top of the eighth, Chicago up 6-2.
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Anyone know a lot about European trains and or those weird planes that fly around Europe?
I am trying to get from Copenhagen (or Oslo) to somewhere I can fly to Casablanca. I don’t want to screw with airports if I don’t have to.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
/crickets
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking, “Andrew asked this right before the game thread ended. I bet he’ll repost.”
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish I could help, but I know absolutely nothing about this.
by Ryan on Jul 1, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I certainly don’t but I’m willing to bet if anyone does they’re on LGT. This is the most diverse group of people ever.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of us are diverse, others not.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I mean in general. I don’t think I have ever seen a group of people who know as much diverse information as this one.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a joke. “We’re even diverse with our diversity!”
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I don’t feel bad about all the time I’ve spent here.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We could probably use a hilarious midget.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We really could.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm. I never did anything in Scandinavia. Let me think on it.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should endeavor to have this entire game thread be a response to this comment.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw the game. Let’s do this.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay I’ll try. We’ll see where this takes us.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty good, but the fries were weak.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad fries can damn near ruin a burger
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping no one noticed that. :(
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope they tested like dispair.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I hope they tasted like dis pair! (gestures)”
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. Rec, but I’m already embarrassed to be doing so.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried doing this with a Joe Sewell joke last week. This site is on a roll.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine tasted of brimstone, ashes, and teriyaki sauce.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brimstone and ashes really improve with teriyaki.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is as good a place as any to put this:
Carrasco has a FB that sits at 92, and occasionally touches 95. Average curve, plus change, weapon against lefties.
Started the futures game for the World team last year. Also rumored to be a possible return in the Sabathia sweepstakes last year.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a good centerpiece to me…
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we could get a couple of relievers and maybe a promising single-A-ish prospect too — or alternatively just a second, somewhat lesser but still promising, SP prospect — I’d do it.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Cliff Lee? Are you nuts?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not enough? That seems like more than we got for CC… but obviously I’d be happy with more.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We got a near-major league ready top hitting prospect, a AA hitting prospect, a quasi-major league starter, and a reliever. And that was for three months, not 15.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SP is more valuable than a similarly talented hitter… but you’re probably right that this is too low an asking price. Maybe if you combine the second SP with the other stuff, and the relievers are legit, insofar as relievers can be.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not in the camp that thinks a Cliff Lee trade makes us better next year.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’d need like Kershaw plus an everyday player from the Dodgers lineup for me to even consider it.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, not the everyday player. I would do Kershaw.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would be LA’s benefit of trading from Kershaw to Lee?
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee won’t be on pitch 100 in the 5th inning of an NLCS game.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, true, but for what we would want in addition to Kershaw, I don’t think the difference between he and Lee would be worth the Dodger’s time.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Which is why I’m against a Lee trade.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not much. Which is why I’m against a Lee trade.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this exercise assumes we are working for beyond 2010.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m also not in the camp that thinks 2010 should be punted because we have a good pitching prospect in Akron.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Awesome post.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you of the opinion that the starting pitching depth needs upgraded for a post-2010 world?
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and no. It can be done in other ways, most of them more long-term, you know, like drafting and signings. If we do fall out of it in 2010, we can deal Lee then. We could get A-ball pitchers for guys like Betancourt and Carroll and Pavano.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I disagree that we can get a prospect like Rondon with an arrival date of 2011 for Betancourt, Carroll, or Pavano. I am receptive to the idea of trading Victor instead of Lee, but that is a limited market, and he is not as valuable.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I interpreted post-2010 world as being broader than 2011. I’m against trading either.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don’t see the pitching depth to field a respectable rotation after Westbrook and Lee leave after 2010.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be construed as an argument to pull out all the stops for 2010, but I get what you’re saying.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My focus is being competitive for 2011-2014, given our position player depth, rather than pulling out all the stops for 2010.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. I agree. I don’t want to give up on 2010 though. I don’t think the two are all that in conflict, actually.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This works both ways, though. You’re talking about stockpiling pitching depth, but that’s not easy to do. At least part of this plan is depedent on the guys we have turning into major leaguers, and at least one to be near Cliff Lee-level elite.
Well, we have one of those guys. Let’s ride him while we have him.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not easy to do, but its considerably easier when you have a large number, considering the attrition rate. I am just advocating adding to what we already have.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I don’t think we get a guy with Rondon’s ceiling for any of those guys.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously. (imo)
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not exclusively. We take a hit on 2010, certainly, but I’d insist on getting a SP who can be expected to be a rotation mainstay, albeit not at Cliff Lee’s level. If we were giving up on 2010 completely, then I’d probably go for a higher ceiling pitcher at a lower level.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I called you nuts, I missed that Carrasco was still the centerpiece. I just saw “a couple of relievers and some change too.” I do like Carrasco. Still might not pull the trigger, but it’s not nuts.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh… yeah, yeah, yeah…. definitely includes Carrasco.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His periphs are very good. What is up with his ERA?
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I know about Carrasco I learned in this and the last game thread.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FIP is about a run and a half lower (4.92 to 3.47).
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question. Seems flukey given his peripherals.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I don’t know much about the rest of their system. Ideally, either a lower level pitcher or a MIF prospect would be included, provided we get another reliever from the Cards as the PTBNL and White signs as a reliever.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fries sure did. Red Robin take-out taters are pure death.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This. If red robin’s fries get slightly cold, they are done for.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, sorry. I posted before I read the thread.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I looked up the Eurail site or something but it said it couldn’t compute a fare and told me to call some number.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I was in London a couple months ago and searched Ryanair, Casablanca was definitely a destination choice.
by bewwolv on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
London’s on an island though. They do have trains that go underwater though.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I picture a plane with a picture of Brad Pitt on it.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just realized Copenhagen is also on an island isn’t it?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have friends going to Casablanca next month.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Step one, I think, is figuring out where “somewhere I can fly to Casablanca” is.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I SAW A MOVIE THAT DEALT WITH THIS VERY ISSUE
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were fleeing the Nazis, I think… Casablanca was in Free France… what was that?
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I bet that’s a decent story.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The lead seemed pretty charismatic for a black-and-white.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of, Kerry Wood sighting.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On to slay those irrelevancy bears.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve done this. I think madrid is a decent start.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want to take a train from Norway to Madrid? Sheezus.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well. Maybe there is somewhere north of there?
I was looking at that ez-jet nonsense or whatever and it was telling me I had to fly to berlin, spend the night, then fly to madrid, spend the night, then fly to casablanca. of course, it cost like 220 dollars or something.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They better comp you the hostels.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think I’m going to be in Denmark/Norway around August 2-6 and I want to be in Casablanca sometime during 8-12.
Oh, and I want to fly home from Casablanca.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being in Denmark or being in Norway would be a big difference if you’re not flying. Ferries suck.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, I guess I could fly.
I thought riding a train might be better than doing these dumb ez jet layovers. If I like, actually fly, it costs another 800 dollars or something.
Which is better to be in? Norway or Denmark? Denmark, right?
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never travelled Scandinavia, like I said, but if there are ferries involved, you need to leave yourself a lot of buffer time. They can miss by hours.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Denmark is supposedly the happiest country on earth. But that might only matter if you actually live there.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why was Hamlet so screwed up?
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wanting to bed your mother is kind of a pan-geographic misery.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, avoid the trains in Madrid.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A thousand times, seconded. Spanish train workers go on strike at the drop of a hat.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2000ed
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
French bus drivers go on strike like this. One of my friends was living there and had groceries and halfway home the bus driver was like we’re going on strike everyone off. She had to walk like a mile home.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are also a lot of religious holidays in the summer, plus the general Spanish proclivity to not provide public services for the hell of it.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool. I got here just in time for the comeback!
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Goal ruiner.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a pretty simple trip. He’s not trying to get to Madagascar.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does that have to do with our goal?
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our new goal is to push this entire thread all the way down the page. Move up!
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Advice: Telling your girlfriend you can’t talk because Jeremy Sowers is pitching is an excuse that will only end in her being angry.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well duh.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not impressed.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She actually has no idea what it means, I’d assume. So it’d be like saying “Can’t talk, some whore vh1 show is on!” to me
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I’ve done this to vbc3, except with like, better pitchers.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re bf/gf. We live together.
And yes, we sit on two separate computers in the same room and gamethread.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that two different computers thing weird sometimes? I feel like it would be.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but we’re used to it.
How could it be weird?
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. I would assume you would have your own conversations going on plus the ones on the game thread and it might get confusing I guess. I don’t know. It just sounds weird. But I wouldn’t want a game thread without both of you.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re both very used to multi-tasking.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there ever any hi-fiving if one of you two have a good post?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Usually a legit LOL suffices.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hypothetically, you two split up, do you have to split time on LGT together like it’s a child?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think having a plan for this is akin to a prenup.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even worse, would we all be expected to choose sides?
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a scary thought.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I CHOOSE RYAN!
Wait, what are we talking about?
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno, what do you all think of women who post to message boards?
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
/me pounds one fist into the other palm repeatedly, with vigour
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
/cowers
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re pretty awesome. But our choice would also be affected by what we think of men who post to message boards. Which is about the same most of the time.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might be kind of like the people on the airport PA system at the beginning of Airplane!
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s a guy who mans the Cleveland airport PA system who seems to speak complete gibberish half the time. He’s incredibly hard to understand.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn’t about loading zones at all.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This isn’t the only place we converse online at the same time. We have an IRC channel we’ve frequented for yonks.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
She never comes over anymore.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, no … that might have a lot to do with it.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darenzia?
There’s a character in a book series I read named Dashiva, but that’s an insane man with special powers.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What does vbc think about insane men with special powers?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know, he’s never read this book series.
He might think they’re pretty cool, though. I certainly would.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you make sure echothers LOLs are legit?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine are always legit. I will not settle for less.
I believe in Carl Pavano.
by salome on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can I suggest one day you guys swap accounts? Imagine the hijinx.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Halloween! Yeah!
Oh wait …
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If one of you guys accidently z through a comment without seeing it, and it’s a good one, does the other suggest the other ctrl+f’s t?
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel the need to add here that I do like half of these from work.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LGT couple. Yes.
I don’t care what you say, ya’ll met on LGT.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This. I would have actually been over the moon.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last time Wood pitched, it was 8-1. 6-2 is an improvement.
He has had 13 save opportunities in his 30 appearances.
by palcal on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m only 22 but this is the worst Indians team I’ve ever watched. Hate everything about them.
by ASP on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m 36 and it feels like the worst one to me too.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Choo.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Choo?*
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this is the worst since The Dark Ages, certainly.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little known fact: Hamlet was an Indians fan. That’s why he originally lost it.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Clearly.
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by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, come back time. We only need 5 runs. Let’s do this.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jhonny, just trying to put the ball in play.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The same way he does every day.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s trying to "run into one." That’s what the man shouting all the time wants. For him to "run into one."
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But no one’s really sure who that man is.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would not listen to him. No one knows who that man is.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bat on ball, bat on ball….
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tying run is almost in the hole!
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aight, Andrew, do we know which airports connect to Casablanca? So far I know about Madrid and Paris.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t even know where to begin to find that.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Frankfurt or Brussels have direct flights.
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by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s that whole Netherlands thing in between, but other than that….
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, here’s the deal. Really cheap flights come like right before the plane takes off — probably not what you’re looking for — or a little further away than we’re talking here. Like, you could do a Paris-to-Casablanca on the 18th of August for 45 euros, but a week earlier and the price is doubling.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you going through kayak or something? Or is there some european equivalent I should emphasize?
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can get from Copenhagen to Frankfurt for about $200.00 on an 12 hour train ride.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might work, if you knew of a flight that got you from Frankfurt to Casablanca.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine all the Indians plays you could write in 12 hours.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Been too long for me to remember. I’m just shopping EasyJet. Best thing I can find to fit your needs is a Paris-to-Casablanca on the 11th for 85 euros.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend is working the semester at sea boat and is in casablanca from the 8th to the 12th, so that’s sort of non-negotiable.
Supposedly Lufthansa goes from Frankfurt to Casablanca. The 234 dollar train is a private sleeper, too. No transfers.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try http://www.skyscanner.net/
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by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing about trains is, they’re run by the countries, not by any larger authority. You’d be fine in northern Europe, I’d imagine, but if timing is critical to you, I definitely wouldn’t try to get across the continent in a few days by train.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EasyJet only seems to fly to Casablanca out of Charles de Gaulle. To get there on the 8th would be E160.
Coincidentally, I’ll turn 25.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn do I wish you were making these plans a month ago.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know I could go a month ago, unfortunately.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the Frankfurt flight would run you about 4 bills. Ouch.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also try http://www.flylc.com/to/en/ap-cmn.htm
Cheap flights in and around Europe.
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by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got roughly $700 R/T Aug 8-12 From CPH to CMN with one stop in FCO.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me decode…
That’s return trip going from Copenhagen to Casablanca stopping in Italy?
Where is that?
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off Skyscanner.net – easier than that 12hr ride to Frankfurt.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although I HATE flying through FCO.
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by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never flown through Italy. For the record, I don’t need a return trip either.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry – missed that. It’s $351 one way.
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by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m an idiot-I don’t see Copenhagen as a departure airport on skyscanner? Do I have the code wrong (KPH)?
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, was limited to Germany by accident.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t do much – but I do do Europe.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol…With another few weeks to work with, I could’ve gotten him there for $150, but this’ll be sooo much smoother.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes the extra $ is worth the less hassle. The ol’ time vs. money debate. Enjoy Morrocco (and the rest of the time in Scandanavia).
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by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you suspect is the cheapest way to get from Casablanca to Chicago?
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Date? One way?
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by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably the 12th. Yeah, one way. Everything I see looks like about a grand.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It looks that way – I’d do the Luftansa though – worth it. Much better then any US carrier.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know what I’ll do. I might just buy it as multi-city from ORD to CPH and then Casablanca to ORD. It looks like that might save me a few hundred though it will put me on something like Northwest.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
London-to-Chicago flights are only about $500 on that day, so if you can get to London on the cheap, that might be worth checking out. mjm is right though — how much is another half-day and less hassle worth to you?
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. This is your ticket. Trust me, trains are cool with friends and an open schedule and low expectations. You need a plane.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are the best. And it looks like the one way is going through Barcelona, which is an alright airport in my recollection.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is going to make for some interesting new GoogleAds
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really need EZJet to go either Copenhagen to Paris or London to Casablanca.
I really want to go to Casablanca because when am I ever going to do that again but this is sort of a pain.
by afh4 on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you could train from Copenhagen to Paris, also about 12 hours, then fly Paris to Casablanca. That looks cheapest to me.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pathetic.
51 more to lose 100. Piece o’ cake.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’re cruising towards that.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where will Harper play with Carlos Santana running around?
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why get excited for that, with this FO’s draft track record?
by JulioBernazard on Jul 1, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that was fun.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You have an interesting definition of fun.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, we can’t lose tomorrow. Look at it that way.
by JRontherim on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Always good.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tomorrow is a .500 day. It’s in the bag.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 1, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Hammy & Hegan,
It’s July, guys. You can officially cut it out with the “hey, maybe a day off will get these guys going again!” chat.
Your absurdly loyal fan,
Vic
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The dreaded A’s are coming in this weekend.
by palcal on Jul 1, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wedge is confident that we’ll be better. I don’t know about you guys, but I feel better already.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Again, I would not listen to him. No one knows who that man is.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A week ago, everybody was screaming for Wedge’s head.
5 straight losses, barely a peep.
by palcal on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The screaming is done. The waiting is in full effect.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think anyone has stopped wanting him gone there is just nothing more to say.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he is gonna be managing until Dolan gets forceful. Shap has had his chance, and he’s being ignorant.
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our lungs are tired.
Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile
by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 1, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t even listen to the post-game interviews anymore. Everytime I hear the man speak, I start doing my “Jon Stewart imitates Dick Cheney” voice almost immediately. Works surprisingly well.
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by vbc3 on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now, we’re in a little bit of a rut.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on Jul 1, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s pretty simple, Erik. I want everybody who’s going to get traded, to get traded, and everybody who’s going to get called up, to get called up, and then I want them to lost 106 games and draft #2 overall.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screw that – I want the #1 pick. I’m rooting for the Nat’s.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a tall order, man. They’ve got us by 14 games. I think we’ll have our hands full with the D-Backs.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Jesus, .289. Even I don’t have the stomach for that.
I would really like it if we didn’t do one of these late-season surges that serves no purpose other than to screw us over in Rule IV, is all I’m actually saying.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know – we’re headed there.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.300? I could get into that. I mean, I would stop watching, but I could get into it. This team could use a good 12-game losing streak.
by fleerdon on Jul 1, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched most of the Columbus game on milb.tv. Marte was hitting the crap out of the ball, looks pretty locked in and made some good plays at 3B. 4-4 with HR and 2 2B’s for reigning IL player-of-the-week. But we can’t mention him right?
Lofgren was ok, but left too many over the plate and when he did they hit him. Hard. Masa was horrible, had nothing. Frank Herrmann actually looked pretty good, big guy and always around the plate, and seems to have made the best transition to the pen among the recent starters that have been repurposed. Could be in the mix next year for middle relief?
Brown smoked the ball too and is having a successful second season at AAA. I know he’s been kinda written off, but really, whatever function Garko serves on the roster Brown would serve it better. But I think we’ll have to wait until September to see him or Marte in Cleveland.
So, anybody still think Wedge gets fired over the all-star break?
by mcrose on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Think we can get a Mickey Hall for Masa and his contract?
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by westbrook on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mebbe some jujubes for Masa and a signed copy of his contract to chuckle over.
by mcrose on Jul 1, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everytime I see Ben Fransico in the lineup I feel like wedge is mocking us …. and I think Laporta should be up here and with a new manager you have to look at Marte again… its a wasted season we might as well get it correct
by NCTRIB on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fire Wedge. Trade Peralta. Put Grady on the DL. Trade Shoppach (if possible – with Lee?). Trade Lee. Promote LaPorta, Marte, & Toregas. Trade Francisco (if possible). Promote Brantley. Activate Laffey. Sowers to bullpen. Trade Pavano (if possible). Activate Westbrook.
Finish season with 2nd worst record (although the Pirates seem to want to fight us for it).
Please?
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 2, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this is so the Indians can be competitive again in 2015?
by odradek on Jul 2, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. Because if we just wait it out, competitiveness is right around the corner.
by bewwolv on Jul 2, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t just activate people who aren’t ready (i.e. Westbrook).
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 2, 2009 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was meant to be transactions over the next month. Not tomorrow.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 2, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much in order, by the way.
I just wanted to believe.
by mjmarble on Jul 2, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay. Didn’t get that part. That makes sense then.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Jul 2, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, I love helping people book flights.
Trade Cliff.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 2, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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