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No, I was just an angry black man.

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Regarding the Indians, Belle said, “I hope they don’t blame Eric Wedge for all this. You’ve got to have players to win.”

by Brick. on Jul 15, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I really, really like Albert Belle.

by afh4 on Jul 15, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Chuck won’t now.

by Brad D on Jul 15, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nah, he’s still my favorite player from that era. He’s also the prototype for how you leave a club when you be come a free agent. No weepy sob-sister hyterics just, “it’s been nice but I’m goin’ where the money’s at. Good luck.”

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Jul 16, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll agree with this.

by Roger Dorn on Jul 16, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

My favorite hitter. I loved watching him walk into the box- there wasn’t a pitcher in baseball who wasn’t scared of him.

by MTF on Jul 15, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is like one of those comic book Atlas Physique ads, but instead of weight lifting Vina turned to PEDs.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 15, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmm, memories.

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by vbc3 on Jul 15, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s not forget trick-or-treaters.

by MTF on Jul 16, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

it still makes me angry that he was suspended for this.

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 20, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just found it fascinating the Belle calls a local sportswriter without being the subject of an article or on the anniversary of some team/personal milestone. It’s like he woke up one morning, and after fiddling around with his Scottrade account said, “I think I’m gonna give that slug at the PD a call.”

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 15, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought it was more likely that Hoynes got in touch with Belle’s manager and asked him if he’d call.

by afh4 on Jul 15, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You think so? Hard to tell with Hoynes. It really says a lot about what a horrible writer he is that he took this out of the blue call from one of the most fascinating players in team history as an opportunity to just throw up a couple quotes. Imagine what Posnanski would have done with this.

by mrich on Jul 15, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, what a waste

Ride on ye fearsome Horsemen of the Basketball Apocalypse. We got this.

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 15, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, I think he and Belle do this talk every year. You can’t make an historic inteview out of a piece every day.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 15, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he and Belle do this talk every year.

I thought this has happened before as well but a quick internet search didn’t yield anything for me.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 15, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scary thought: Albert Belle managing the Indians.

If you believe it's just a game, you're also probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.

by LeftyCatcher on Jul 15, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Happy thought: Belle vs Ozzie

by world dictator on Jul 15, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just another example of a suggestion that would have seemed utterly ridiculous in Spring Training, but yes, I’d take Belle as manager right now just for the spectacle and nostalgia.

No, not you. Your helmet!

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 15, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s too bad Albert has been so totally uninterested in the game since he retired. I got the impression he was a really smart guy, and he’s probably no more of a jerk than Buck Showalter or Davey Johnson.

I wonder where he would have ranked in that silly list of managers current players want to play for.

by mrich on Jul 15, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got the impression he was a really smart guy

From what I’ve read about him, he certainly seems to be.

by Voltaire on Jul 15, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d love to have Ozzie as manager and put Albert in as bench coach. The post game news conferences would have to be on PPV.

by MTF on Jul 15, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Feller dies, does our spirit banner rest with Albert?

by jhon on Jul 15, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Feller is immortal!

No, not you. Your helmet!

by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 15, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s too angry to die.

by FallsTribeFan on Jul 15, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Travis Fryman is my spirit animal.

by afh4 on Jul 15, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Victor is a PR machine. I want the unfiltered, unbiased look

by Roger Dorn on Jul 15, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone who will speak his mind and admit to not reading much?

Proud Fan of the Worst Baseball Team I've Ever Seen

by westbrook on Jul 15, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

IF ONLY

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 15, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

His ghost would charge you ten bucks to transfer the banner.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 15, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 ghost bucks well spent

by jhon on Jul 15, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No need to say Belle was calling from his home in Scottsdale, AZ. I think the anklet device prohibits him from leaving there.

by Wil Cantrell on Jul 15, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t ask me how that got a rec. We must be giddy cuz the Tribe’s not playing, and we just found out that Lonnie’s good.

by jhon on Jul 15, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just wish I could buy beer with ghost bucks.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 15, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sometimes pay my rent with ghost bucks

by jhon on Jul 15, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ghost beer, no problem.

by odradek on Jul 15, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

REC. We’re being charged ten yolks to blog about Feller.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 15, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Despite his personality issues, I can only praise Albert. He was such a student of hitting, you never saw him off balance at the plate. He was graceful even while striking out.

by elsandito on Jul 15, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I miss Albert a little bit. As much as he hated sportswriters, thermometers, and whatever else pissed him off that day, he always played like he hated a pitched baseball way, way more.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 15, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions  

And there seems to be a decision made by the front office to not have this kind of guy in the clubhouse anymore. More and more I’m thinking this is not a good decision. It is really such a bad thing to have one guy that is a powderkeg just waiting to unload on the other team?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jul 15, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I admit, I do have a thing for badass players. Just as long as they’re not cry baby jerks.

by world dictator on Jul 15, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can dig that.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 15, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it depends. Milton Bradley? Not so much. Ron Artest in Indiana? Probably not. Terrell Owens anywhere? I don’t want him. But a guy like Belle, whose play can back up that attitude and craziness, on a team with good leadership and guys who won’t get sucked into the mess? Probably often a good thing.

I’ll say it: Fire Wedge. Hire Belle.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 16, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

How about Ron Artest in LA? or Dennis Rodman in Chicago? better yet how about Brock Lesnatr in the octagon?

On the flip side I’m told that Trot Nixon, Dave Delucci and Aaron Boone are all just swell guys. Gimme a hard swinging lunatic like Belle any time over all three of those mooks.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Jul 17, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Artest in LA has done absolutely nothing toward proving this point. By most reports Belle was a good teammate (more the Rodman) but had issues with outsiders. Artest is just a world class jackass in the mold of AJ Alphabet.

by Brad D on Jul 17, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right Artest hasn’t shown anything yet. We’ll talk next June when the Lakers are repeating.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Jul 17, 2009 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

They just demonstrated they could win without him, how would that prove anything?

by Brad D on Jul 17, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well now they’ll hafta do it with him instead of Odom.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Jul 17, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

most reports Belle was a good teammate

Gimme a link.

Resident LGT results-oriented boob.

by mauichuck on Jul 17, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

“He (Albert Belle) gets criticized a lot for not talking to the media, but that’s indicative of his indifference to how he’s perceived and whether he’s regarded as a superstar or popular. All he wants to do is play baseball. As a teammate, he’s the best you can have.”

- Brady Anderson in USA Today (February 25, 2000)

He’s played well for me. I’ve found him very approachable behind closed doors. Albert (Belle) is Albert, you’re not going to change him. I do like Albert.

-Mike Hargrove to the Associated Press (December 13, 1999)

If you talk to him (Albert Belle) in person, you don’t realize how mean he is. He’s really a sweet guy

- Omar Vizquel to the Associated Press (October 23, 1995)


“People are shocked when I say Albert (Belle) is a nice guy, but it’s the truth. The only problem Albert has had is he’s too competitive. When he gets involved in a game, a competitiveness comes over him that’s almost dangerous.”
– Mark Guthrie in the Minneapolis-St. Paul Tribune (October 13, 1995)

There’s a few. The point remains that you simply shove people into the box you have created for them and then check back occasionally to make sure they are still there. Albert Belle is no more a deranged “lunatic” then Cliff Lee is “self-destructive.” People are a conglomeration of things, they are not just one overpowering trait.

by Brad D on Jul 17, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have always assumed Albert was a great teammate, but not so great with the public that perhaps didn’t understand his competitive drive.

"Some days are better than others, but it's a long season."

— The Inestimable Eric Wedge

by emd2k3 on Jul 17, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Hmmm, should we pay a nice guy who probably can’t hit, or the better hitter who’s a jerk?” “Oh the nice guy, absolutely. That’s our thing!”

Am I still the only guy who has a hard time believing that this is what happens in our FO?

by dgcambridge on Jul 17, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to that extreme, but something along those lines.

by Brad D on Jul 17, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right — very generally. Guys who are good teammates and have good work habits and make quality AB get the benefit of the doubt for roster spots and playing time. Given that player evaluation is so subjective even if you’re only talking about real playing skills, it’s easy to rationalize those kinds of nods.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 17, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see this, but I can’t see there being a whole class of players that wouldn’t ever play for the Shapiro Indians.

by dgcambridge on Jul 17, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I can.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 17, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s also this assumption that only the hard-asses can hit, and only the nice guys are stiffs.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 17, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are exceptions: Stan Musial is supposedly a nice guy. But there’s a great tradition of great players of dubious character: Grover Cleveland Alexander, Cobb, Johnny “the Human Crab” Evers, Ed Delehanty, etc. Would any of these guys play for the Shapiro Indians? Ty Cobb at the age of 18? Playing for Augusta in the South Atlantic League?

That’s why Durocher said nice guys finish last.

by odradek on Jul 17, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grover Cleveland, on the other hand, was known for his integrity. Also his non-consecutive terms. Kind of like Kenny Lofton.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 17, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Another man from Buffalo.

by odradek on Jul 20, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean supposedly? Pretty sure you can say Stan the Man is a nice guy without throwing any supposedly’s or is said to be’s. Just saying.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 17, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it’s not like he’s hung out with him.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 17, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he’s Stan the Man.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 17, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve met him. He seems nice, and everybody has nice things to say about him. He plays the harmonica, by the way. But my assumption is based on very little beyond that.

by odradek on Jul 18, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christy Matthewson.

by afh4 on Jul 17, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brock Lesnar. Interesting. Are you a fan?

by NickFantana on Jul 17, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dialogue within the film “Lawrence of Arabia” pertaining to the drive to Damascus:
Lawrence, these things know
nothing of the Arab revolt.
 
                   
- You have bought these things.
- I bought half the men here, Ali.
                   
That is different.
These are not ordinary men.
                   
I don’t want ordinary men.

by elsandito on Jul 17, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

and let’s not forget albert belle bars… though sadly a google search for “albert belle” + “bar” doesn’t reveal any images of these beauties

by gorilla_baller on Jul 16, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still have one of those in my freezer, along with an opened box of Pronk bars and a large piece of cake from the 1937 wedding of King Edward VIII.

by JimmyAB on Jul 16, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I can’t find a photo either. Post one sometime, JAB.

by dgcambridge on Jul 16, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s a little one for now:

by JimmyAB on Jul 20, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Pronk bar rests unopened on my office desk organizer.

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by vbc3 on Jul 16, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is why i will always love albert

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 20, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

So if he’s manager, does he point to his clipboard?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 20, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he still goes w/ the bicep, no? seems to be pretty applicable in many situations…

by DontCallMeJoey on Jul 20, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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