Game Thread: July 23, 2009
Cleveland Indians at Toronto Blue Jays, Jul 23, 2009 12:37 PM EDT
Cleveland at Toronto, 12:37 PM
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It really doesn’t deserve a thread, but as heard on WTAM, the Indians just announced that Sowers gets the start on Saturday.
yippee.
You are reading my signature.
Maybe we can trade this game to Tampa Bay for a game against Baltimore later in the season.
"Actual versatility is a good thing. Imagined versatility is a bad thing."
Jay Levin
by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Per Castro:
INDIANS (37-58): CF Grady Sizemore, SS Asdrubal Cabrera, RF Shin-Soo Choo, DH Victor Martinez, 3B Jhonny Peralta, 1B Ryan Garko, LF Ben Francisco, 2B Jamey Carroll, C Chris Gimenez. LHP David Huff (4-4, 6.60).There’s a 1970s British heavy metal reference just waiting to burst forth from that Jays starter.BLUE JAYS (47-48): DH Marco Scutaro, 2B Aaron Hill, LF Adam Lind, 1B Kevin Millar, CF Vernon Wells, RF Alex Rios, 3B Jose Bautista, C Rod Barajas, SS John McDonald. LHP Marc Rzepczynski (1-1, 2.50).
Rzepczynski? Shouldn’t it be Lzepczynski?
No, not you. Your helmet!
by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions
Rzepczynski’s 23, has made 3 major league starts this year - all respectable (6 innings) 0— vs. Baltimore, TB and Boston. He has walked 11 guys in in those three starts, also struck out a bunch.
you know, as many injuries the Tribe have had this year, I think the Blue Jays have had even more on the pitching side. Rzep is the 12th starter they’ve used.
announcers said its their 5th rookie starter too.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Geminez catching….Martinez or (more hopefully) a Shoppach trade on the horizon?
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 12:46 PM EDT reply actions
Kind of hoping maybe that provides Huff with some stability…although if Lee were to go to the Rays, maybe we throw in Shoppach too since they work so well together.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think this is crazy idea… in fact it might help if he catches sowers also to see if it has anything to do with sowers sucess doubt it but … might as well give it a whirl
It wouldn’t be a bad idea. Something is bound to help Sowers…maybe Geminez is it.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we should just carry five catchers, and every starter can have his own. Sowers can have Garko, since we’re gonna lose that game anyway.
by FredOx on Jul 23, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now that I would love to see…sounds very Wedge-esque
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds like something he’d pull for his “versatility” issue he seems to have.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m worried that if he spends too much time catching he’ll end up slow.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 23, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
from AC’s blog:
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The trip to the Great White North always presents some travel complications, and one Tribe player somehow lost his U.S. passport in the three days since the Indians arrived here. He was in straight panic mode pregame today and is likely to endure extra scrutiny before boarding the team charter to Seattle tonight. Perhaps he should just bring the Indians’ media guide with him and show the customs officials his bio page.
That’s pretty hilarious—for now. I’m assuming he isn’t a U.S. citizen.
No, not you. Your helmet!
by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent point!
No, not you. Your helmet!
by PatBordersHelmet on Jul 23, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I finally signed on to Twitter. Any suggestions for the best application, for windows? Something slight, buy easy to read. I plan to read only for now.
Second here for TweetDeck.
"Actual versatility is a good thing. Imagined versatility is a bad thing."
Jay Levin
by woodsmeister on Jul 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were the Cardinals or Red Sox … I would be looking at Alex Rios he is a pretty great addition to any lineup
yeah, he needs the Sal mustache. Maybe then we keep him up here
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice quick inning from Huff….being very efficient with pitches today….nice to see
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions
In other seasons, we’d get one or two outta this.
by JulioBernazard on Jul 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Was just 60 a couple ago, I think. According to Underwood.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 23, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hammy “Peralta with a good effort” THIS ISN"T LITTLE LEAGUE…leave the good effort for the 11 year olds
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
i just threw a pad of sticky notes across my office and everyone is giving me weird looks….oops.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
well that’s good….I’m watching on Gameday…can’t tell much.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy monkey balls…Benny didn’t go up there trying to hit one over the fence….amazing.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
It’s like a goddamn spring training game. He’s just going to throw the slider, results be damned.
Steel Nick
I’d give up four just b/c I was pissed at our sucky offense.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Our pitching staff is in no position to complain about the offense.
by FredOx on Jul 23, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well that goes without saying.
Or at least it did.
::glares::
by Logodaedalus on Jul 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
C’mon Huff the Magic Dragon…lets limit the damage here
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
is it just me, or has almost ever first pitch from this guy been high and outside? (watching CBS gamecenter)
What would be great here is a photoshop of Choo looking off in the distance toward the Indians mascot, while Asdrubal looks around shiftily while holding several stop signs.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
mlbtraderumors.com says that the Rockies will make a trade today for bullpen help…anyone want to take a guess as to whether Betancourt could be that guy?
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions
do they have anything that would be worth shedding his $5+mil next year…gotta think they do.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan Petry division (middle-rotation right-handed starter)
HIGH COST: Jon Garland, Arizona, $6.25 million — Garland hasn’t been able to duplicate the success he had with the White Sox in 2005 and 2006 — a 36-17 record and one World Series ring — but he’s still a durable starter who generally keeps his team close. July has been his best month this season, and he’s allowed more than three earned runs only once in his past seven starts. An unfavorable buyout ($2.5 million) on next year’s mutual option could hinder his value.
LOW COST: Carl Pavano, Cleveland, $1.5 million — Not much has gone right for the Indians this year, but the bargain signing of Pavano has a chance to bring back another prospect or two. Pavano has pitched into the seventh inning in three of his past four outings.
Choo does not slump. He merely lulls you into a false sense of security.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 23, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
about time somebody on this team, besides Lee, said this!
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
1:07pm: Ken Rosenthal now hears that the Rays may involve a third team in the deal to provide the Indians with more pitching.
Oh, there’s a whole big thread on that I haven’t looked at yet.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yuck…0-2 and he gives up a double…not good
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions
I think that’s the philosophy of all our pitchers except Lee
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
HBP as good as a single with no one on.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I honestly think if they had just made Garko the 1B and played him there every day for the past three years, I wouldn’t hate him.
Fair enough. But there is this:
Trade bait Ryan Garko has hit in 15 of his last 17 games, batting .367 (22-for-60) with two homers and five RBIs.
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by world dictator on Jul 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The Jays commentators claimed last night that when Garko plays in 20+ consecutive games, he bats like .315 or something. When he doesn’t, it’s .224.
I don’t know how to check that.
The point is not the difference between Shoppach and Giminez, but the fact that we’re going to take Jamey’s 38.2% chance of not getting out and take it down to 0% just so we can watch Giminez bat. A pinch-hitter would have at least eased the pain a little bit.
well…at least in the last couple of games at least.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow Wedge’s jackassary just cranked it up a notch. Garko on second, Bfran on first, no outs, 6th inning. Of COURSE they’re going to throw to 3rd.
The Rays are now pursuing Victor Martinez, Jon Heyman of SI.com reports. They have been surprisingly aggressive in recent days, as they have also discussed Cliff Lee.
what the heck
Yup.
Gimme Davis, Hellickson, Moore, Jennings and a PTBNL (just cause you have to have one of those)
by FallsTribeFan on Jul 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s about what it would take for me to give them BOTH of those guys.
by FallsTribeFan on Jul 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
what have we got t lose at this point
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
They've got a good system...we better bring in a nice haul for the two of them
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure why this is linked either…hmmm
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha
wow. Doubt it but wow
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by world dictator on Jul 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If they wouldn’t give up Davis for Lee, then I don;t for see a deal happening.
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by world dictator on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey hey…another double. Hard to believe
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
Huff…only 95 pitches…does he go out for the 8th?
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions
Send him out there with a quick trigger.
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 23, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
hey just got online..and we are winning this game :D
Clone Grady 25 times and we will win the World Serious in 2040
by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe Shaprio is working rivals against each other and just saying well i am going to trade Victor to one of you TB- I want David Bos-I want Bucholtz…. see who blinks first
Alright folks …. lower the bar down until it is in a locked position.
Strap on your seat belts and helmets ….
Cause we are now into the Bullpen Zone … Enter at Your Own Risk
are there complimentary barf bags and bullet proof vests?
Clone Grady 25 times and we will win the World Serious in 2040
by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Thing about this metaphor…. we’re hoping we swallow the vomit?
by Logodaedalus on Jul 23, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i just ate :/
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
lol kerry wood is ~loosening up
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
as a mets fan, i don’t know to psych myself up for tonights game. :/
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
i don’t want to ~see Kerry Wood STO. D:
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
Rare territory: David Huff is only the second Tribe pitcher since 1954 to pitch at least 7 innings and give up 7 or more XBH.
holy cow grady got a single
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions
Well…at least Wood has the bottom of the lineup to deal with…not sure it’ll matter though.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
Getting here just in time. Or not. Wow.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions
if we lose this is on you
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 23, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I get that.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what’s weird. GameCast says Ball in Play, then reports the HBP.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
Hammy, “Well, Nothing’s easy.” Not with our bullpen it ain’t.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
I bring it up … only because he has already tweeted a link to his column today.
This is new.
by FallsTribeFan on Jul 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
No I get it … I don’t it’s entirely useless …
by FallsTribeFan on Jul 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you make a very good point….I’m guessing since we didn’t see Betancourt, it’ll be him to Colorado….just pure speculation mind you
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
channeling ric flair?
Clone Grady 25 times and we will win the World Serious in 2040
by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Castro traveling with the team? Would it be baseless to speculate there’s a move today?
Steel Nick
Maybe he lost his passport.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
2 more to go.
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
Outs? Or runs?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
outs. lol.
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
TY Garko
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by biscuitsandgrady on Jul 23, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
Sell high on Garko!
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
I forgot what that feels like.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions
Yes.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
So how do I look at Castro’s tweets without actually, yknow, signing up for Twitter? Impossible?
Steel Nick
Love the indignant response.
Trade Cliff.
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 23, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Not thrilled with the BB rate.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Have we discussed shutting Huff down? Letting Sowers mop up halfway through August or something?
Steel Nick
Actually he threw almost 150 IP last year. More than I thought. He just crept over 100 this year, I think.
Steel Nick
So can someone who saw the game tell me whether he was really out of gas when they pulled him or of he just made mistake on the pitch to Millar?
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by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions

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