Jess Todd named to complete DeRosa trade

Cardinals beat reporter has now confirmed what Tom Hamilton is reporting on-air — the Cardinals are sending reliever Jess Todd to the Indians, to complete the trade for Mark DeRosa from last month. Reliever Chris Perez was the first player received in that deal, and the Indians had the right to select one more player from a short list, previously reported to include Todd and Francisco Samuel.

Todd, 23, has a 2.20 ERA in 41 games with the Triple-A Memphis Redbirds this season, all in relief. He's struck out 59 and walked 13 over 49 IP.

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For what it’s worth, the Indians just Tweeted me this.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

tribeinsider Indians today acquired RHP JESS TODD from St. Louis to complete the DeRosa trade…He leads the PCL with 24 saves & will report to Columbus
2 minutes ago from web

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions

What’s a “save?”

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions

it’s like a win, but you have to have a closer’s mentality to get one.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 26, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Some made up idiot stat. Don’t worry about it.

"Actual versatility is a good thing. Imagined versatility is a bad thing."
Jay Levin

by woodsmeister on Jul 26, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions

40-man at 38

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions

All alone in here?

FWIW, this was absolutely the guy to get.

by FallsTribeFan on Jul 26, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions

What are you doing in my thread?!

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions

The DeRosa trade is looking a lot better now. Not that it ever looked bad I’m just glad I got to see the PTBNL before I left

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Jul 26, 2009 6:01 PM EDT reply actions

Stevens, Archer and Gaub … for Perez and Todd … this looks like an elaborate heist to me.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

and we got a couple months of Derosa!

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by westbrook on Jul 26, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Shh…you’ll alert the other GM’s in the league that we’re still robbing people blind.

On second thought this is the second trade where Stl been aggressive. Not that it’s a bad pick up.

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Jul 26, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Cards Fan

I am devastated by losing Todd. He was known as the “Destroyer”. I officially hate my GM after this week.

Stat Whore

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 26, 2009 6:09 PM EDT reply actions

Not meaning any disrespect, but were you guys oblivious to the prior reports that Jess Todd was on the list of options for Shapiro to choose from? Todd and Samuel were reported days after the trade, and we always assumed it was correct.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions

If the cardinals win it all will you change your mind? Both of these trades seem like win-now trades so if the Cards win now then they worked right?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 26, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions

I would hope so. It’s a couple of eggs in one basket move.

by Roger Dorn on Jul 26, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I am devastated by losing Todd. He was known as the "Destroyer"

I strongly suggest that we keep this nick name

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by world dictator on Jul 26, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh for sure. It’s a great one.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 26, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions

The only other thinking jumping to mind is Uncle Jess(e), and then a step further, Stamos. Because yelling Stamos is pretty fun.

by JRontherim on Jul 27, 2009 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I like this line of thinking.

by NickFantana on Jul 27, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions

Sizemore did his best to rob Saunders of his first ML hit for the second day in a row.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 26, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions

Tomorrow, Sizemore will help rob Saunders of a win.

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by westbrook on Jul 26, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Nice! :-)

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 26, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Despite everything else falling apart this season, credit Shapiro for extracting peak value for DeRosa.

by cheech99 on Jul 26, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions

I give him full credit for this, but he does need to learn some new tricks, too.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Like this.

Proud Fan of the Worst Baseball Team I've Ever Seen

by westbrook on Jul 26, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Chris Perez: Not on the DL

by Logodaedalus on Jul 26, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions

I told them.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 26, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Todd is 5’11", 210 pounds. Could be a Wicky clone.

by ken from alexandria on Jul 26, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions

Cut the finger now.

Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.

by USSChoo on Jul 27, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions

210? Wickman was pushing 250

by Roger Dorn on Jul 27, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions

This is great news. A definite upgrade over Stevens.

by Toxicadam on Jul 26, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions

They look similar, until you realize that Todd’s K/BB is more than double Stevens’.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions

Not to mention age.

by Toxicadam on Jul 26, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions

That difference isn’t as significant for relievers, but it does seem like Stevens has taken a good long while to refine his game.

Todd was a pretty damned good prospect as a Double-A starter last year.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I guess Todd immediately becomes our best relief prospect, no? (This is Perez’s rookie year.)

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions

I would think so….

by Logodaedalus on Jul 26, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Wood
Perez
Perez
Lewis
Sipp
Todd
Graham

Some attractive options next year.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

So it’s Todd, Sipp or Graham as far as prospects.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions

This isn’t assuming Graham makes the bullpen out of ST, but one would think he could spend a good chunk of the year in the bigs. Certainly he could use the seasoning and some work on his control.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions

So, in all seriousness, how far are we from having the best farm in the league? By the looks of it, talking “Top 100” type guys, position wise we’ve got:

LaPorta
Wegz
Santana
Chiz

SP
Rondon
KDLC (health)

RP
Todd

That seems like a lot to me. If we trade one of Vic or Cliff, I’d think we’d have a top 5 system. If we trade both, I think it has to be pretty clearly the best system in the league.

by afh4 on Jul 26, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions

if everyone had 7 top 100 guys, they’d call it the top 210.

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by westbrook on Jul 26, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I love this.

by Joel D on Jul 26, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions

you’re on a roll tonight

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by world dictator on Jul 26, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, we started off the year Top 5 or 6. I think more good than bad has happened. Lofgren, Brown and Marte off the scrap-heap. Rondon is big-time, Gomez will be something, that has to balance KDLC. The Chiz exceeding expectations, and isn’t House making some noise?

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Don’t forget Rosario.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Never.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions

And Alexander Perez.

by ken from alexandria on Jul 26, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d say we’re on the doorstep of Top 5 anyway if we just do Pavano/Garko/Carroll. But that’s a tough 5 to crack (Texas, Oak, SF, Tampa, Florida).

by cheech99 on Jul 26, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s easier to crack when you’re stealing their prospects

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Jul 26, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m looking forward to having a top 5 team again someday.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 27, 2009 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions

Hello everyone,

I’m glad to see it was Todd, as I think most of us assumed it was. Samuel seemed to be a younger, less established version of Perez (and that’s not to knock Perez; it’s just to say both have had command issues of great stuff, and of the two, Perez has shown more ability to this point to command it, which is why he’s in the Majors and Samuel is at AA).

I thought possibly guys like P.J. Walters or Fernando Salas could have also been on that list (I heard that there was a third name was being considered last week), but I agree that Todd was the #1 choice and I’m glad that the Indians got him.

Regarding the Wickman comparison, I don’t know Todd’s GB ratios, but I’d think that Todd could be able to get a few more strikeouts (or have it be more a part of his arsenal) than Wickman, though as long as Todd can show good command and be effective, I’ll be satisfied with acquiring him.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jul 26, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions

friggin fantastic. exactly what I was hoping for. Shapiro may need to learn new tricks, but this one never gets old.

by gmfrodo on Jul 26, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions

Agreed.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Yep, he’s consistently been able to get great value in sell-off trades.

by Ryan on Jul 26, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe Dolan could let LGT run the team for most of the year, and then defer to Shapiro when we want to unload someone for a big haul.

by supermarioelia on Jul 26, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions

What gets old is the necessity for him to perform this trick. I’d much rather the team was winning.

"Actual versatility is a good thing. Imagined versatility is a bad thing."
Jay Levin

by woodsmeister on Jul 26, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it’s a bit of a fallacy to assume we wouldn’t trade stars in their walk years if we were winning. We may still trade some of them. It just wouldn’t be as obvious a decision.

by FredOx on Jul 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions

We’d have to have some impressive depth to trade actual stars.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Hard to complain about this haul. Hopefully, this actually turns into bullpen results next year (dare I dream?)

by Roger Dorn on Jul 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions

On paper……

by Logodaedalus on Jul 26, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Right. On paper we improved our bullpen this year.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 27, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions

It would be interesting to see if the Cards have another move up their sleeve. The timing of this PTBN seems peculiar just one week away from the end of the deadline.

by Toxicadam on Jul 26, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions

Do they need a starter? Washburn?

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by westbrook on Jul 26, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah I think they need a starter.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 26, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions

If they still had a farm left I’d recommend Pavano.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah. They’ve got nothing left.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 26, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe it’s just my own weird way of using the site, but I almost missed this post since it’s pushed down by the recap and is in between game threads. Possibly worth bumping to the top?

by cleveland teamer on Jul 26, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions

Software limitation … no way to bump to the top. Oddly, FanShots posted by the four authors to the front page get removed from the side columns. If we promote one of your FanShots, however, it also stays on the side.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 26, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions

So a year ago our top 3 relief prospects were (in the order of your choice), Stevens, Sipp and Meloan. No we have instead, Sipp, Perez, Todd and Abreu. All four of these guys have some (in Todd’s case very limited) major league experience. Ignoring Abreu then, we basically advanced that whole trio from AAA to the majors while upgrading Meloan/Stevens to Perez/Todd. And this doesn’t even consider acquisitions like Graham or the conversion of someone like Putnam to the pen. It also sets up something like a Wood/Smith/Perez/Perez/Lewis/Sipp/Todd/+filler bullpen for next season. I can get behind that. Now about those corner positions and rotation…

by APV on Jul 27, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions

I agree with what you’re saying but let’s not fall into the trap of assuming that Chris Perez and Jess Todd are viable major league relievers. Or Raffy P or Jensen for that matter. I like the look of the bullpen as much as you do, but projecting it for actual production is incredibly dicey.

Not that you don’t know that, but that I don’t want to lose sight of it.

by NickFantana on Jul 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions

I’m not saying they are sure things, but I think they are reasonable bets.

by APV on Jul 27, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Abreu?

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Jul 27, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions

The Abreu trade is still an awful big question mark to me — I guess his performance as an Indian hasn’t done much to vindicate Shapiro. That being said, as a whole, the (future) bullpen has leaps and bounds the potential it did a month or so ago

by supersizeme on Jul 27, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m really enjoying the part where we just go get good young relievers instead of waiting for our starting prospects to fail out out of their rotations and converting them. For our next trick, corner players who actually hit for and field their positions!

by fleerdon on Jul 27, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions

For our next trick, corner players who actually hit for and field their positions!

Mouth agape, slapping forehead.

by NickFantana on Jul 27, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Mouth agape, slapping forehead.

this is how you “steal home”

by Brick. on Jul 27, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions

+filler

Sowers for longman. Just sayin’.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jul 27, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Mark:

I’ve been meaning to tell you – you’re doing a great job again. Cut a deal with South Korea to keep Shin-Soo, and it’s safe to say that you have TOTALLY REDEEMED YOURSELF.

joeee

by joeee on Jul 27, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions