Game Thread: July 29, 2009
by Ryan on Jul 29, 2009 3:30 PM EDT
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INDIANS (42-59): CF Grady Sizemore, SS Asdrubal Cabrera, RF Shin-Soo Choo, 1B Victor Martinez, 3B Jhonny Peralta, DH Travis Hafner, LF Chris Gimenez, 2B Luis Valbuena, C Kelly Shoppach. LHP Aaron Laffey (4-2, 3.71).ANGELS (59-40): 3B Chone Figgins, SS Maicer Izturis, RF Bobby Abreu, DH Juan Rivera, 1B Kendry Morales, 2B Howie Kendrick, CF Gary Matthews, C Jeff Mathis, LF Reggie Willits. RHP John Lackey (6-4, 4.22).
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Real versatility, not imagined versatility.
"Gravity is a harsh mistress." - The Tick
by woodsmeister on Jul 29, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. That would be way too much for one day…
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 29, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally I’d rather just get it over with all at once.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
since you mention it, that could be worth it. then again it could just be so much it drives everyone completely wacko
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 30, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Trading Cliff is not a legitimate excuse for joining a nudist colony.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
No. Just the ones I don’t want anymore. Then I’ll go on a shopping spree and replace them.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I’ve probably god an old Christmas sweater I could sell, if you’re interested, haha.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
Not really in the market for an old men’s Christmas sweater. But thanks.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
This is not remotely funny.
"Some days are better than others, but it's a long season."
— The Inestimable Eric Wedge
I like Laffey at least
DON'T TRADE CLIFF FOR THAT!
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 29, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
He’s top 5 for me now
DON'T TRADE CLIFF FOR THAT!
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 29, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Vic, Grady, Choo, Droobs, Laffey, Marte
DON'T TRADE CLIFF FOR THAT!
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 29, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Grady, Jake, Vic, Droobs, Choo, Laffey, Fausto (still because of 07), Marte.
Gutz would be ahead of Laffey and maybe ahead of Choo.
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I’m Vic/Grady, Choo, Droobs…
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
valbuena, droobs, grady, victor, nick
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jul 29, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I feel nothing more than a big “meh” for Laffey. If Vic is traded, I’ll have to strongly revise my favorites list.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Jul 29, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
ooo yeah thats true, he probably wanted to get traded to the AL east
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jul 29, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
im starting to really like gimenez
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jul 29, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions
Rays fans weigh in on Lee
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/7/29/967579/report-rays-uninvolved-on-jeff#18875134
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Talking 110 degrees in Portland today
Len Barker perfect game attendee
by SeattleVinny on Jul 29, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like we’ll see Okha at some point today.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 29, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions
Time to head off to work for a Thursday
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 29, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
A Facebook quiz just told me I was 100% Pretty. So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I took a “Which Top Gear character are you?” quiz, and I didn’t agree with the results, so I stopped doing those things.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
I only took the ACT, though I didn’t have a problem with mine, I was glad I didn’t have to take the SAT.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
I did slightly better on the SAT so I’m glad I took it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I just didn’t want to have to take another test. My 29 worked just fine.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
Haha, I did it as a sophomore too. I stopped caring after that cuz I knew that was gonna get me in anywhere that I cared to go. Though, I should have cared because just slightly higher and I would have been able to pull a full ride.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
Well it depends where you go, where I went, Ohio U (Harvard on the Hocking in nickname only), I believe a 30 started the full ride. But I went there for their very good broadcast/journalism/film program, so it wasn’t without warrant. It was either there or NYU or the west coast, and I didn’t wanna do either of those.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
Ah, I went to Miami (only for a year, as I hated it there). I do think I actually got a decent-ish scholarship, now that I think about it.
*sigh*
I went to an art school and they didn’t care what I tested at, they just said “Draw that sweaty naked dude and then we’ll talk about money.”
I’m somewhat in this boat. 28 with no prep and knowing I didn’t need to really kick ass.
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I never prepped, because it did nothing but make me nervous and panic, I never actually learned anything from it. The best advice I can give is to take the test at least twice, I took it first in 8th grade, then I knew what was going on with it.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
I took the prelim one 1-2 years before the real one. I hate when people get all braggy about their score and then say they took it like 3 tiems.
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It’s smart to do that if you care about your score though. The more you take it the better you get. The first time I took I had the worst science section ever and got like a 16 on that section. I got in the 30’s on everything else. Obviously I should have taken it again since the 16 score was an outlier that definitely skewed my score.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
A Facebook quiz just told me I was 100% Pretty. So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice.
Don’t worry, you’re still ugly on the inside.
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
how so
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Just making a reference to a former debate and the fact that you called me ugly on the inside for no apparent reason.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Just so you know, I’m really not offended since I’m sure you’re joking.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Yes….joking. ha ha
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I had a reason. It was funny.
but I’m glad you didn’t take it too seriously
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
My mom just got text messaging and sent me a text… this isn’t gonna go well.
Shin-Soo Choo, future U.S. Citizen.
He lost his pitching mate….only can guess he’s sulking. Not looking sharp at all today.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
At Giants game. Collecting Garko opinions.
by afh4 on Jul 29, 2009 4:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This one would take longer to get to acceptance mode.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Yep. I’d quit baseball for 2009 at least.
"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay
by Turkmenbashi on Jul 29, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
article talks about the Tigers possibly wanting him. Can’t see the Indians ever trading him in division.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 29, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, my day wasn’t going badly enough.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
sadly yes, and we’re looking horribly flat today.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 29, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha I’ve been reading for an hour and this sounds about right.
by supermarioelia on Jul 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This will be the first off-season in a long time where I didn’t expect the Indians to be a winning team. I wonder if I still will have that anticipation I get in late January for baseball to begin.
I think once you give in & just get excited to watch some of the young guys develop, it’s ok. When you have high expectations & they suck (a la this year), that’s when it’s really depressing.
*sigh*
maybe he read some of our posts and took it to heart…..nah.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s package Choo, V-mart and Droobs to the Dodgers for Tommy Lasorda and a bag of Oreos.
by Cleveland Indians on Jul 29, 2009 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
Lasorda would eat the oreos on the plane ride.
by MooneysRebellion on Jul 29, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
TRIPLE A Oreos.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
YES! Definitely worth Choo, V-mart and Droobs.
by Cleveland Indians on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did Giminez just say drop like 12 F-bombs in a row?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It’s OK, Ryan gave him permission.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate the Phillies. Not for the team, but for the fans. Sorry, phans.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I hate every team that’s won the World Series in my lifetime.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i really don’t care for them, for really no rational reason. i tend to get excited about the marlins, and i remain partially loyal to the mets, as i’m a new yorker, and being a mets fan pisses off yankees fans.
The Marlins can go jump in a lake. The Mets are just the Yankees lite. I despise the braves, and you would too if you lived in the south.
Yeah..I wonder how Lee feels about going pitching in a hitters park like that. Going to hurt his FA value I’d think
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet he’ll enjoy his world series ring more. Well him and Ben Fran
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He needs to look on the bright side. With Carrasco, he’ll get to roll his r’s, like the Seattle guys get to do with Gutierrez.
They don’t, though. They just sort of tap it.
by Logodaedalus on Jul 29, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
On a more positive note: Rosetta Stone is awesome
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
I’m just trying to find a small glimmer of sunshine in this Cliff Leeless world
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve heard good things, too. What language are you doing?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I figured I’d brush up on my German since I hadn’t taken any lessons since high school. I’d recommend it depending on the price
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Are there different prices for different languages?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe there’s discs that have like 26 languages on them for a couple of hundred bucks. I don’t know I got mine for free. But I’ve seen the discs on craigslist for like a hundred bucks several times
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Now would be a good time to strike out the next three batters.
by Cleveland Indians on Jul 29, 2009 5:05 PM EDT reply actions
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
The Tribe has looked out of it all game. This is what happens when you demoralize them (for the next season, too).
-Kyle
They’re going to be demoralized for another 250+ games? Bunch of pansies. Or maybe you’re overreacting.
No, but I’m sure guys like Grady and Victor are wondering what the heck is happening in their organization and, as such, are probably a bit distracted today.
I’ll go with the other option: You’re being snarky for no reason.
-Kyle
FredOx, I apologize: THIS is being snarky for no reason.
Kudos, Jay, that’s two days in a row now. You should get some kind of award.
-Kyle
Bring the outfielders in. Let’s play with 7 infielders all huddled 2 feet away from the batter. I’m sure it’ll intimidate the batters.
by Cleveland Indians on Jul 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
it’s TEE BALL TIME!
"Some days are better than others, but it's a long season."
— The Inestimable Eric Wedge
Stopping the ball with the face is just as good as catching it with the glove.
by Cleveland Indians on Jul 29, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Did someone electrify the baseball? Add some sort of antigravity force field? What’s going on with the Tribe’s ability to catch the ball today?
"Gravity is a harsh mistress." - The Tick
We’ve always sucked at defense. Don’t act surprised all of a sudden.
"Some days are better than others, but it's a long season."
— The Inestimable Eric Wedge
We’ve not always sucked like this.
"Gravity is a harsh mistress." - The Tick
by woodsmeister on Jul 29, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
This is going well. Entirely appropriately, I now have to go to the county landfill to dispose of an old toilet.
Chris “Cy Young” Perez to the rescue.
by Cleveland Indians on Jul 29, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
NO…NO GOD NO
The scout also points out that Carrasco has yet to fulfill his promise, but says that Knapp might be the player the Phillies regret losing most, projecting him as a future closer in the Lee Smith mold.
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
It’s funny.
Neyer says he might be the Tribe’s best starter as soon as next season.
by FallsTribeFan on Jul 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the most annoying part of this trade is that there’s so many varying opinions about all of the players we acquired. Normally there’s some variance but damn people
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I know … it is somewhat amusing.
Scouts say Donald is questionable glove and good bat … others say he’s good glove but a utility guy.
Marson is either the “heir apparent” or a punchless catcher …
And Knapp is either Halladay … or a ticking time bomb.
by FallsTribeFan on Jul 29, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m slowly moving to acceptance mode. I don’t know why because this game shouldn’t be helping.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Wow, you whipped through denial, anger, and bargaining pretty darned fast.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I never was in denial. I don’t know what bargaining is. I don’t like being angry. I was in depression for awhile. I still am sort of there, I’m just more willing to listen to reason now.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Bargaining is like, “Please, please if you change it so that we get higher return for Cliff I’ll never be bad again,” or such. Forgot about depression. It’s just a constant being a Tribe fan for so many decades.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a HIMYM episode about it
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re reason above? I haven’t seen all the seasons. I shoud work on that part of my life.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I haven’t seen all the seasons. I shoud work on that part of my life.
Yes
You’re reason above?
No
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
DING!
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn you, Choo, and your plate discipline crap.
by Cleveland Indians on Jul 29, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
Ryan Garko with his first sharp ground out back to the pitcher while playiing for the Giants. Someone get that ball back.
Coworker: “You should watch every Victor at bat, just in case.”
Sigh.
DON'T TRADE CLIFF FOR THAT!
by Gradyforpresident on Jul 29, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
i used to use this when i was sad, then i found LGT
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jul 29, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t that have the opposite effect?
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 29, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
oh uh i was lying. I am just really sad now.
by I'd give my legs for Wegz on Jul 29, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright, I don’t want to be “that guy”, but can someone bring me up to date on all the news/general consenus? I’ve only got a few minutes before I have to get back to writing. I know the guys we’d be getting from the Phillies. But the Victor news? Reaction to the Lee trade?
GO!
FTW
That’s all you need to know. More seriously I dont think most of us have had enough time to go through enough information to make an honest assessment. But we generally are disappointed in the trade. It features a lot of prospects that scouts are split on. And no blue chippers. But they all seem to be decent B level prospects.
Knapp- 18 y/0 who already touches 98. Currently a starter
Marson- Catcher with no power but great OBP.
Donald- SS. Might move to second. Put up good offensive numbers before this year in AA
Carrasco- #2 prospect in Phillies system before year began. (#1 to Sickles) Can touch 97 but gives up a lot of hits and too many walks. #2 ceiling
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl
by world dictator on Jul 29, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Also!
Two more points
1. Knapp was shut down with shoulder stiffness. No word on how serious it is. Though I expect it not to be too bad.
2. They’re all in AAA except for Knapp who is in A. This is important too..
Carrasco 22 y/o
Knapp 18 y/o
Donald 24 y/o
Marson 23 y/o
But I believe a few of them just had birthdays. And Knapp is about to turn 19.
"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl