Deadline Open Thread

Any chance we can stop with the pictures of happy Victor? I’m going to end up crying when he gets traded.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions

just put a caption to it.

“Look now… if I do this, it looks like I’m tugging on it, eeeeawwww!”

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Agreed. It’s too painful to think about.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 31, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions

Better?

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions

No. I really want to both trade and keep Victor.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Didn’t you hear? Diamond View has a cloning machine. Not the kind where you get a baby either — the science fiction kind.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

For some reason, these just make me more sad.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

the second one does.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

i want to keep him.

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions

This tweet claims Victor is gone..

by Jeffrey R on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions

http://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/3055091029

it’s going down???

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions

swear.

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Sure – make it so I don’t get ANY work done today!

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I DONT BELIEVE ANYTHING UNLESS IT HAS THE MLB.COM SANCTIONED #MLBTRADES HASHTAG

by MikeCP on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

USA TODAY!?!?!?!

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

hey, I’m just the messenger.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

I should have taken a second avatar bet with Adam…

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions

for anyone who can’t read the tweets — no info, just said that the Red Sox are about to acquire Victor Martinez.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Please Baseball God, not the Red Sox. Please please please.

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by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

POR FAVOR!

by danvail on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Baseball God would speak Spanish; it makes sense.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Actually, Baseball God speaks Urdu, and we’re all SOL.

by odradek on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions

At this point I feel like someone at the beginning of a concert, in the dark, and we’re all clapping in unison trying to will the band to come out.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 1:59 PM EDT reply actions

Of course it could be Fall Out Boy, or it could be _______ (Awesome band of your choosing since we can’t unanimously agree on anything).

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Brand New.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Clay Aiken?

by bogey021 on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Barry Manilow?

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Coldplay.

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by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Pavement.

by doowop on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

The band Boston would be pretty fitting.

by Chemo on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

You may be evil. Not a band. You specifically.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

How about these guys?

by Chemo on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

rec

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Nothing from Castro yet

by cheech99 on Jul 31, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions

yeah, this one upsets me. victor transcended laundry.

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions

Ed Price says “looks good” and Ed Price is never wrong.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions

Ed Price … superstar!

by FallsTribeFan on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Ed Price, MLB FanHouse:

Source: “Looks good” for Victor Martinez to #RedSox, confirming @BNightengale report

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions

Who are Boston’s other great pitching prospects? If I were them, I would be absolutely livid in a Vic for Buch swap.

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions

Agreed.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Doubly agreed.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Just to repeat from other thread: if this is it, thanks and goodbye, Vic.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions

and the tears are about to start streaming. I am going to miss that big PR machine

by Roger Dorn on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I know, this sucks hard. Vic. is/was my, and probably lots of other people’s, favorite Indian.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

all-time favorite for me

by Roger Dorn on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Better be for more than Buckholtz

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions

Amen to that! a straight up trade is a major loss for Shap.

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll actually be mildly surprised if Shap. was able to pry Buchholz out of Epstein.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed. I have decided I would be happy with Buchholz for Martinez +

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Me too

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I hate Buchholz. Don’t know why, I just do.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

The Boston hype-machine has a way of doing that.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

because he’s in the Boston system perhaps?

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Not at all. There’s plenty of Sawx I’d take willingly. Not him.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Because he plays for Boston, would be my best guess.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

#picture of Victor crying after the 2007 ALCS#

Too bad that photo doesn’t exist on the intraweb.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions

I’d cry.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh it does. Somewhere.

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by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s been on here recently.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Hurry up already with this. Less than 2 hours to deal Carroll and Peralta.

by cheech99 on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Don’t forget Pavano.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Figure he’s be an August move.

by cheech99 on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I was hoping that somehow Peralta would be involved in this deal.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d drive to Cleveland and stand by Shapiro’s car until he came out, just so he could see the tears that were obviously his goal.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

and that it was achieved more than he even imagined.

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Stop here on your back through?

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Might as well. I’ll grab some really cheap vodka and we’ll make a night of it.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m going to make a separate thread for a photo tribute to Victor. All submissions welcome.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions

Hellooooooooooooooooo bandwidth…

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

More of a move to save this thread.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

And my ability to keep up with it – I and my work computer thank you!

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions

i refuse to ever learn how to spell buckholes correctly.

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs

LOL rec

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I remember calling my brother after the Buccholz’s no-no, and he had substituted a certain four letter word in place of “bucc.” It was so bad, it’s good.

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

“buch”

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

that was the four letter word? That’s not very creative.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t remember this. I must have been crunk.

by jhon on Aug 1, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions

After his SECOND NO HITTER you will.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

I understand that this if this happens, it’s the best way for the club to succeed long-term. And it probably doesn’t do ALL that much to our chances next year (though Lee+Martinez does), but it sucks.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions

agreed, offense isn’t exactly a problem with this group

by returner3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Highly doubt we’re getting Buccholz but we’ll see.

by cheech99 on Jul 31, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions

ok, fine, but how about Buchholz

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t want either of them.

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions

BUCHHHHHHOLZ, please.

Usually, an incredible waste of pixels.

by emd2k3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Vic for less than Buchholz? F that.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

FSB!

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions

In play, out(s)

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

And just like Gamecast it takes forever to give details.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Day of Change.

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 31, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions

http://www.letsgotribe.com/2009/7/31/970912/any-photos-you-want-to-share-of#comments

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions

It’s hard for me to think of a more popular Indian to have been traded in my lifetime as an Indian fan (going back to the 70s). Lofton? We got Justice in return. Joe Carter? He was wearing out his welcome. But Victor?!? He’s the heart of the team for me.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions

Nothing close in my lifetime. Shap. better dust off that flak-jacket from the Colon trade.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

That Lofton trade came out of the blue for me. I didn’t have cable or reliable internet service so I didn’t even know it was in the works.

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, it was a complete shock to me. But, we got two big-time names in their prime.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I would think on Omar leaving (under much different circumstances) would have close to the same impact.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

the Lofton one made me real sad at the time

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BOBBLEHEADS FOR SUNDAY!?!?!

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions

Ebay!

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Total Collectors Item

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions

The Congolese really love their 2007 National Champion North Carolina Tar Heels.

Usually, an incredible waste of pixels.

by emd2k3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

This one actually makes me sad. Very sad.

Usually, an incredible waste of pixels.

by emd2k3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions

I doubt vic goes anywhere at this point guys

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions

Ed Price is never wrong, don’t you know that?

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions

sad LOL and rec

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll make a facebook profile pic bet on this!

((Its all I have left))

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Some of us wouldn’t see that because you are too cool for us.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t have facebook. It was just a joke.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I hate it when I taking a joking comment seriously.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I hate it when you do too.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

The reason these trades suck is because we have to watch injuries/bad luck/economy actually affect our club. We have to watch us yield to the gravity of being a small market team – whereas we’ve been defiantly competing against and defying the big boys for a few years now.

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

This is as much as I’ve ever agreed with anything you’ve posted.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions

A dick remark, to be sure. I hope you enjoy your Fall Out Boy.

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Seems like an unwarranted response

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Actually, I was just trying to be gracious and point out that you made a really good point. I’m more into Avril though.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not in the Avril meme – is that the chick in the ads on the LGT page?

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Or you mean Lavigne?

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Imagine the bizarre emotions we’re going to have when Vic is still an Indian tomorrow.

by Chemo on Jul 31, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions

No, I would not like to make an avatar bet.

by Chemo on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions

point noted

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Castro just tweeted, but only refers to the USA Today report that the deal is close.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions

Joel Sherman tweets:

don’t know if this matters to confirm @BNightengale rpt on Martinez to Bos, but TB was other pursuer and heard TB was out for a few days.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions

My Red Sox fan partner suggested LaRoche is part of this deal. I smacked him.

Usually, an incredible waste of pixels.

by emd2k3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions

Red Sox fans having a hard time today — getting smacked and kicked in the nuts.

Serves them right.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

As always, they’ll get the last laugh.

by odradek on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Source: Red Sox on verge of landing Martinez — 2:07 p.m.

The Red Sox are on the verge of acquiring catcher Victor Martinez from the Indians, according to a major-league source.

News of the deal first was reported by Bob Nightengale of USA Today.

Rosenthal’s blog.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions

c’mon clay clay!

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions

rosenthal adds its only between the two, no 3rd team involved as previously rumored.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

Sherman says his gut is that it’s for Buchholz based on Indians’ wants.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions

I hope Sherman’s gut is onto something.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Me too. It’s funny, I’m not really that awed by Buchholz, but he’s clearly the best pitching prospect in the system. So I’ll be pretty disappointed if he’s not involved.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

the only way i’m more miffed about trading vic is if we didn’t get him.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

@ditto031395: if the Sox trade adam lachore it would suck

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions

LaChore is somewhat apt. At least until June of every season.

Usually, an incredible waste of pixels.

by emd2k3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions

This pains me to say it, but I’m pretty sure Vic will be great in Boston and they will love him. As I said in a thread yesterday…the bright side of Vic coming to Boston is I get to see him play everyday. The bad side is I will lose my soul doing so.

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions

Yep: I’ll now be watching NESN religiously.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

I wonder how Victor feels. Sad day for him as well.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

but Victor’s a pro, and I think he’ll respond accordingly. It’ll be interesting to see how he fits in the clubhouse with Varitek.

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m sure he will, but deep down it’ll sting like hell I imagine.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah, he’ll be upset about this for awhile. i guess wanting to retire an indian isn’t good enough for Shapiro…

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Um, no, and it shouldn’t be.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I wanted to retire an Indian and the jerk wouldn’t even sign me.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

me too, and I only asked for a 4 year $40M contract.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

thats it? he missed out of a cheap steal…

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

He still can retire an Indian….unless he retires before this contract is up.

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah
He’s going to be a lock to start in next year’s all-star game with that fan base.

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions

You’d be a lock to start the ASG with that fan base.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I like Victor so much that I am considering cheering for the Roid Sox

by Roger Dorn on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

FLAG

by danvail on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

FLAG

BAN

THROATPUNCH

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

REPEAT AS NECESSARY.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I just punched myself in the throat. Should have cleared up some of the douchiness I just contracted

by Roger Dorn on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

DF+: inf

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

At LEAST one throatpunch.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

You get him down, I’ll start kicking.

by JimmyAB on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

FLAG

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

By rooting for the Red Sox, you are rooting for Pedroia and Papelbon. There is not situation where that is an acceptable reality.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

I hate Papelbon, probably more than any other MLB player right now. Besides Jeter of course.

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

Beckett is parked right up alongside that jackass.

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by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

DUDE! THE HELL DUDE!

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by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m really enjoying the responses to this.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

So what is this on the Pedroia Douchebaggery scale?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

It broke the P-meter.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

WE STILL HAVEN’T SETTLED ON A SYMBOL DAMMIT

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

PF, why not?

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh, PF is OK

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Adjust for seasons with PF+. It’s a solid system. Of course, maybe we are trading Vic as a secret agent to break Pedroia’s legs.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Well get to it boys! Geez, y’all really get nothing done on trade deadline day.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

How about this: ð

That looks pretty damn douchey.

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

How about :-P

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

so we have 4 sources saying it’s close, but no other details?

We’re dying over here!!

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions

I want something more that Bucholz here. I am not sure if that is visceral or rational.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions

I want Bucholz plus, but I know that’s visceral.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

To me, Buchholz makes the most sense. Even though he is struggling, he has to be considered better or equal to Huff or Carrasco.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Refresh me on how buccholz is struggling? No snark here. Just looked at his bref page and he’s been somewhat nasty this year in AAA.

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

His Major League WHIP is 1.67.

Ouch.

Not saying I can’t be talked into it.

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

SSS

Usually, an incredible waste of pixels.

by emd2k3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

you’re not saying much. 3 starts this season with Boston. Would it make you feel better to learn his WHIP in 99 innings with Pawtucket this season is 0.98

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s career. 116 IP in MLB. It’s not huge, but that’s pretty bad.

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Gets a lot of strikeouts, a little walkey but not ridiculous, and low HR rates.

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

He has no confidence in his stuff up in the majors. He nibbles and gets himself into trouble all the time.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I am so fing tired of the Red Sox taking our most beloved players.

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions

I am so fing tired of the Red Sox ~~taking our most beloved players.~~

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by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs

rec

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

BYRD WAS SO LOVED

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

single tear for the cobra

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, at least he’ll finally get the national recognition he deserves. And when the Sox fans find out about him, we won’t hear about Tek anymore.

by odradek on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

hopefully victor gets the news before taking BP.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions

Some random dude on Twitter nobody has ever heard of says “a Sox deal for Gonzalez is 95% close.” Go random sourceless dude.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions

Would another 5% make it fully “close”, or a done deal?

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions

on the short-term side of things, watching Shoppach everyday will be rough.

by ASP on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions

Nobody misses a letter-high fastball like the Shop.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Or takes one

Len Barker perfect game attendee

by SeattleVinny on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Did you see Garko get hit in the head yesterday? Didn’t phase him. Garko can take a pitch like NOBODY.

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

i did not like the way he was drilled

by Tim1122 on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

For anyone who is upset if we get Buchholz, I’ll offer you this pic to use.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions

Victor’s last AB was that epic fail in the 9th inning.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions

Preceded by yet another epic bullpen failure.

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

zz

Trading Victor for pitching makes all sorts of sense. Just do it already so I can start getting over him.

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions

Really. It’s hard to start my cycle when I can’t even get through denial because it hasn’t happened yet.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions

watching the 9th inning of the no-hitter on my HD. hopefully this lessens the pain.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions

It will double the pain if it’s not Buchholz.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

I KNOW DAMMIT

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

If Will Carroll is to be trusted, it’s Buchholz “and more”

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I read this as there being other trades going down

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

so did I

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Okay, quick refresher. No more excuses.

B . U . C . H . H . O . L . Z .

Two H’s, that’s it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions

Buck Holes.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

Bukhholz.

Got it.

by JimmyAB on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Ironic or nicknamey misspellings are fine. I just want to know you know.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

It literally means “book” “wood” in German. I don’t think that gets us anywhere, though.

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

It could be the start of something though.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Better than Wurmholz I guess.

by JimmyAB on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll call him Clay. It’s easier that way.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

AIKEN

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

by cleveland teamer on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m going to go for a quick bike ride over lunch. When I get back, I’d imagine another 1000+ comments and Victor to be a Sawk.

Sucks to the Red Sox.
Sucks to MLB’s bull crap financial structure.
Sucks to every member of our bullpen that has ruined 2009.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions

Do you live in Boulder?

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Used to. The Springs, now.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Do you mountain bike down there? I’d be interested in finding out about some good trails.

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

http://twitter.com/injuryexpert/status/3055512903

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions

Carroll says Buccchoootttllz

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

What’s the “more”?

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions

hopefully nothing on our part going towards Boston.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s my fear too.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

lachore, obviously.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

ugh.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

LaRoche appears more lackisdasical than Jhonny. That would drive Wedge3000 nuts.

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I seriously have butterflies/am borderline sick to my stomach thinking about Vic playing for the Red Sox.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Same here

Len Barker perfect game attendee

by SeattleVinny on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, this is hard to take.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I know. The tension is killing me. It’s like when your favorite college basketball team is on the bubble and they are announcing the last 8/9 game. I’m dying here.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions

Accept the inevitable.

by jayme on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

I think I’m going to have to avoid all coverage of the red sox for the next 1 1/2 years. I mean, even more so than normal.

by for the record on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

Nauseated.

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Force quit and move to trash.

by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Rec for correct use of nauseated (instead of nauseous)

"Gravity is a harsh mistress." - The Tick

by woodsmeister on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

This is our year.

This.

by jhon on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions

I remember Victor in the minors …

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 31, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions

Don’t do this to yourself man.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

it’ll only make it worse. don’t put yourself through that

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

UUuuuggggghhhhhh

Can we swear in this thread?

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions

oh shit Rosenthal:

The Indians’ exact return is not known, but the Red Sox did not include either right-hander Clay Buchholz nor right-hander Daniel Bard in the deal, according to a source.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions

NOOOOOOO

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

WHAT

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by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

No sir, I do not like it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Awesome.

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Force quit and move to trash.

by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Can’t be true.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions

If it’s Masterson, I’ll spit at the computer.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

this.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Somebody brace Cleveland.com …. she’s gonna explode.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Good

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Dude, I’m gonna explode if that’s the case

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ve learned from the Lee trade not to blow up about anything. But this will not please me.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

No, I will literally yell at work

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll join you, from the couch that is my prison.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Much appreciated, comrade

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m not sure it can be more explodier than it will be already.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

If true, there is no way you’ll ever convince me this is a good deal. None.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Are we still under the delusion that we are not salary dumping? I was.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

&^$^%$#&^%&(()(^%$#^$%

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

that guy has a great KK:B ratio

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

And four plus pitches, I’ve heard

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

But we’ve started nicknaming him already.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

GMs are rude.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I feel more sick than I did after drinking that whole bottle of whiskey two nights ago.

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Round two.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m still hungover from it.

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions

How DARE you imply that you wouldn’t drink to Victor’s departure but you would for Lee!

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll take solace in a bottle of wine, tonight, alone, in my childhood home, and remember the days.

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

“GLORY DAYS…”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

just thinking out loud, but could it be something like Bowden, Masterson and Reddick?

Please no.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Ryan, where are you and your permission?

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions

I could see this being better than Buchholz for Martinez straight up

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Agreed

by thevicar on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Heyman hearing it separately from Nightengale, it seems.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions

“The waaaiting is the haaardest … part.” by Tom Petty just came up on my radio.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions

Don’t wanna live like a refugee — V. Mart!

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Coco makes the catch!

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions

Jonathan Mayo says Nick Hagadone is big part of package for vic.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions

A ball pitcher coming off TJ surgery!!??!!

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Gotta get those surgeries out of the way early.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

who the f

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

2007 sandwich pick.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm… saaaaaaandwichh…..

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

maybe he meant in terms of size….Hagadone is big. But I hope he is not big in importance in this trade.

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Who doesn’t want a 23 year old in his second season of A ball?

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Theo.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Is poor Shapiro going to have to make another press conference about this one? I can’t wait to hear Greg Brinda blubber again.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions

Someone help me out, because all of Boston’s pretty good pitching prospects blend together for me. Which of these guys are good?

by Chemo on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions

UGH

The trade deadline is a legit reason to do literally nothing at work all week, right?

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions

Same here.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

uh, yeah it is

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

I have the rest of the day to make up for the bupkus I am getting accomplished right now.

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Force quit and move to trash.

by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions

Shit I feared that Buccholz was too good to be true. Keepin fingers crossed.

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions

When will LaPorta be back up?

Len Barker perfect game attendee

by SeattleVinny on Jul 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions

sometimes i fucking hate when jay is right about this stuff.

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions

JAY MADE THIS HAPPEN! GET HIM!

As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.

by bigbrabbs on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

?

by joeee on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Mets are close to taking LaRoche. – Rosenthal

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions

my dog’s salmon treats really smell like salmon and make my fingers smell like salmon, and not in a good way – me

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I want Jered Stanley in this deal.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions

I’d pay money to see him play.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

He’d be right here in Akron.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow, he just fell apart after last year. Dang.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

He’s their Beau Mills.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Up the NAIA!

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

nyp_joelsherman I trust Ken Rosenthal and he is saying that Buchholz is not in the deal.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions

I never liked that Will Carroll.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions

My threats of tears over no more Victor are not being helped by my threats of tears over no Buchholz.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions

I’m with you on this.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

those who didn’t want buh koltz may want buck ols when they find out the real package.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Eesh, but yeah.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions

If we don’t at least get that Starbucks guy, I’m gonna get completely shitcanned tonight

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions

Damn, we took a Celery Dump.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Beter or worse than a Cellary Dump?

by JimmyAB on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

The thought of Vic in a Sox uniform is excruciating…. I’m going to punch the next Red Sox fan who bemoans the Sox’ inability to compete with the Yankees’ spending square in the throat. I swear I’m going to do it.

by supersizeme on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions

I think I would rather see him in a Yankees uni. Not gonna lie.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s ridiculous.

by JimmyAB on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I know I would

by supersizeme on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

I would, because then I could completely write him off as a jackass

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

But if he’s traded there it’s not his fault.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

If I get TB, it’s not my fault. It still has consequences.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d just pretend he had died. Vic isn’t a jackass.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Victor could never be a jackass.

"Gravity is a harsh mistress." - The Tick

by woodsmeister on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, this. Until he voluntarily signs with the Yankees he is most definitely not a jackass.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes.

by danvail on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

I’m going to punch the next Red Sox fan ~~who bemoans the Sox’ inability to compete with the Yankees’ spending square~~ in the throat.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

agreed. agreed. At least the Yankees are honest about what they are, the Sox… still think they’re the poor underdogs, sruggling to compete in the system

by supersizeme on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

You are talking about Red Sox fans, right? Not the organization.

by JimmyAB on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah, their fans. I can’t tell you often I’ve heard them complain that it was “unfair” that the Yankees could so significantly outspend them. I gently tried to ask them what they thought it felt like to be a fan of one of the 26 or 27 teams that wasn’t the Yanks, Sox, Dodgers, or Angels…

by supersizeme on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

26

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

220, 221, whatever it takes.

"Gravity is a harsh mistress." - The Tick

by woodsmeister on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

touche

by supersizeme on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

The Sox fans don’t bemoan the financial aspects – they think they have the financial ability to compete with the Yankees.

The difference is that the Sox fans act like their **** don’t stink in this situation.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Carroll appears to be standing by his reporting.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions

Carroll is right, Carroll is right, Carroll is right

/dark corner

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Mayo tweets Masterson part of deal.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions

http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/3055664321

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t mind Masterson at all, as long as he isn’t the centerpiece.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

oh god

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

(shakes fist)

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

And the rest??? C’mon. Give me something!

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

What, Hagadone and Masterson not enough for ye?

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

No.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

how could it be?

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Awesome. A reliever.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

is bard in too?

by Tim1122 on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions

This is litterally a slow death.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

*slowest death

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Heyman on MLB network now

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions

says no Buchholz

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions

and that was all he said

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I think he’s only going off Rosenthal, according to his tweet.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions

yeah…he didn’t say anything about sources in the interview so that could be

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

As if today couldn’t get any worse, Vick is meeting with Belichick.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:37 PM EDT reply actions

Yes!

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

OK
Now I want Buchholz.

by Cols714 on Jul 31, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions

Looking like you’re going to be disappointed.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s all part of the master plan to make you like the trade better when it’s actually announced.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions

FF: the Indians are the second youngest team in the MLB 26.6 years

by Sizemorgasim on Jul 31, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions

Sounds like 2003.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

Just like with Lee, we might as well accept these reports and realize we’re not getting Buchholz.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions

Yep

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions

It still seems split though.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

There are those saying we’re not getting him, and those saying nothing about it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

I just realized I haven’t eaten since 4 in the morning. I hate today.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions

Try having to move home today on top of this.

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Five-Star Prospects
1. Lars Anderson, 1B
2. Michael Bowden, RHP
Four-Star Prospects
3. Josh Reddick, RF
4. Daniel Bard, RHP
Three-Star Prospects
5. Ryan Westmoreland, CF
6. Casey Kelly, RHP/SS
7. Michael Almanzar, 3B
8. Nick Hagadone, LHP
9. Junichi Tazawa, RHP
10. Bryan Price, RHP
11. Ryan Kalish, CF

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions

Sorry. Of course, that’s from Goldstein.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Is this who we are getting? Seems about right.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d be glad to get a dude named Lars.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Would we be happy with Bowden, Hagadone and another B-/C+ pitcher?

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

no

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

How about just Masterson and Hagadone?

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

no

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Masterson and Bowden would be fine.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

if the deal is Hagadon, Masterson, Bowden and anothe prospect, I’d actually feel alright … I think.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

imagine if we got Drabek and Buchholz

by Sizemorgasim on Jul 31, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions

Going to be hard to make this happen.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

obviously its not but that was our expectations before the Lee and V-M art trades

by Sizemorgasim on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t think anyone expected Drabek. I’m happier with what we got there.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Was it? I feel like expectations were all over the board.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

From MTR:

1:35pm: MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo says (via Twitter) pitchers Nick Hagadone and Justin Masterson are in the deal. Gut reaction: nice haul.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions

Then why do I feel like I’ve been kicked in the gut?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

because we have been.

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Heyman saying the deal has been agreed to.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions

i feel like we just got kason gabbarded

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions

uuuuuuuuuggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Sherman says he just talked to someone involved in the talks and the deal is “on the brink.”

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions

My mom just told me, “They might as well give him up, we’re not contending next year.” Now if only she could get a job in journalism.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions

Mayo saying Tribe and Sox looking for names to add to Hagadone and Masterson.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions

Sox fan lurking…

But for a good updated site on our prospects: soxprospects.com

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions

Thanks, but the link is broken.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Must be an omen.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes….but the virus uploaded when you clicked it……sneaky Sox hackers

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

www.soxprospects.com

works on mine.

"Ninety percent [of my salary] I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey. The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
-Tug McGraw

by BTLove on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

MY GOD, THERE ARE NO PROSPECTS! STOP THE TRADE!! GET ME TO A PHONE!

--
Force quit and move to trash.

by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

[deleted, profanity]

by westbrook on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

I’m turning the corner on this deal.

Hey, we got 3 prospects for a broken down catcher!! High five!

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions

What three?

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I just made that up.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

Who’s the 3rd one?

by jayme on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions

David Ortiz.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Adam just made that up.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Hagadone had TJ surgery and is on his way back. Reportedly hit 98 MPH a couple of months ago (per Gammons), also throws a solid slider and is working on a change. Might be a reliever down the road.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions

Great; he’s got the upside of a reliever.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions

hey, I’m just going off some Sox sites, and I’m not an expert at all. He does have 3 pitches and commands them pretty well from what I’ve read. Could remain a starter.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

It wasn’t directed at you, sorry.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions

I was looking at his numbers yesterday…. They look good, but he’s 23 in low A. But I guess the TJ will push things back that way.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Walks a few too many, but strikes out a ton.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

A ton of guys 5 years younger than he is. 59 total minor league innings.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

hmm

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Our own Francisco Liriano. Nice.

by jayme on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn’t mind us having a Liriano.

by thevicar on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

So Bowden, Masterson, Hagadone? Thoughts?

by thevicar on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions

I would be fine with that. I doubt that is going to fly.

by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d be okay with that. I guess.

by MooneysRebellion on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes. But I don’t think it’s Bowden. It sounds like we’re talking strictly second tier prospects here.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

Works, but won’t happen.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d definitely be okay with this. Just Bowden and Masterson would have been enough for me not to be upset, at least.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Doesn’t seem like the upside I was hoping for. And Hagadone is 23 and in low-A? Doesn’t sound promising.

by malemodel on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

TJ set back in 2008. Otherwise, he looks okay.

by MooneysRebellion on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

If it’s Masterson+Hagadone+two more lesser prospects, that seems good.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions

I want Stolmy Pimentel

by Nat on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions

I was supposed to get all my work done between 2-3 .. christ on a stick!

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions

Uh, yup. I was planning on doing something I’d been putting off all week today. Eff that.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Have surgery, hit the couch. Even my wife doesn’t expect to do anything but cruise the internet right now.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s the problem. No one at work expects anything either. I’m sitting on something I turned in two weeks ago on a deadline that needed minor revisions. Then the dude said it wasn’t important and he was gonna be on vacation till August 3rd. So, I’ve put it off like two weeks.

I think I might just do it Sunday.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Wow, are you guys hiring?

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

You can have my position.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

Seriously. I need a job.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

I think a lot of us do.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I know, I should be happy just with a job. But I hate it. I need to make grad school come quicker.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I need to go back to grad school to hide.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Didn’t you just finish?

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah – but I can’t even get an interview anywhere (although I’ve been on over 30 info interviews in 4 months + have applied everywhere I can think of). It’s just a horrible time to come out of school.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, I hope it’s a little better by the time I get out. Also, I’m gonna make an effort to get more “skills” than I did in undergrad.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions

It is. I’m struggling to even find a job as a cop. That’s when you know it is bad.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

DC could always use ya, man!

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

You’ve got 12 minutes. You’re going to have to hurry though.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Why don’t some of us like Justin Masterson?

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions

I don’t even know who that is.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

If they tell me he’s going to start I’ll be happier with him

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

this.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I am assuming he’ll start for us.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Weak k rate, high bb rate. Doesn’t appear to have ability to start.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t trust a man with no windup.

--
Force quit and move to trash.

by vbc3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

lol

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Ergo Paul Byrd is God!

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

greatest wind-up ever

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Not exactly dominant in High A at age 22. But, a high pick. I guess this is the high up-side thing.

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Great. Really great.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

through the roof GB-rate

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Interesting metaphor! High hoppers?

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

Something like a 4.50-4.75 FIP as a starter in his major league career so far. Exciting? No not really. Can start in MLB? Yes.

by 7foot3 on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

i like him.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought it was Dustin. Am I smoking something?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

If so, give me some so I can forget Vic is about to become a Red Sock

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

He seems like he might be a douche, but his numbers are pretty good.

by Logodaedalus on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

it doesn’t matter. the system is too flawed to care.

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions

I think a lot of us want a front-line starter, or at least a starter at all.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Soooooooo now we have the funds to sign Manny and Thome. Nice.

As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.

by bigbrabbs on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs

that made me laugh

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

non trade related: Carlos Santana is 2nd on BA’s hot sheet this week.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions

Santana is in a class all by himself right now in terms of our prospects

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

Castro: Third player might also be coming to the tribe. Let’s Go Might.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions

LGT: Let’s Go Third!

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

z

Update from MLBTR:

1:35pm: MLB.com’s Jonathan Mayo says (via Twitter) pitchers Nick Hagadone and Justin Masterson are in the deal (ESPN’s Peter Gammons agrees). Gut reaction: nice haul. Mayo also says the two clubs are looking at additional names to add for Cleveland.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions

Updated with the Gammons and 3rd name confirm.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, its going to be SPTBNL.

by jayme on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions

man, I’m going nuts. I must’ve smoked like 3 cigarettes in the last half hour or so.

by JP_Frost on Jul 31, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions

I’m wishing I hadn’t quit last year.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

never too soon to start back up. but seriously, good for you

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah – I quit on my wedding day. Wife’s much happier.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

you’re going nuts? i just found out there are people that still smoke.

by Brick. on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions

The sickest thing is that no one gave a shit about Vic for years when he was arguably the best catcher in baseball, and now he’ll be a superstar.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions

megasigh

by danvail on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions

The thing that sucks is that I have to kind of hope he doesn’t have like 6 great years for the Sox until he is more remembered as a Red Sock.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

You want Manny to be remembered as an Indian?

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

for the player he was AS an indian.

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Manny was a ballplayer as an Indian, a cartoon as a Red Sock, and an ungrateful bastard as a Dodger.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

A damn fine hitter across the board.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Another trade for which there is widespread agreement that it is a good deal. For the other side.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions

Of course, a lot depends on who the third player is.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Where? It seems like most people think we did well.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ve heard Heyman say that. Nightengale says the deal is a stroke of genius for the Sox.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Mayo and Gammons like our return and we could be adding a third.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

But a trade can be good for the Sox and good for us. We operate in different universes in baseball terms. Their goal is to make their ML team better, our goal is to grow the next crop of affordable young players. Both teams get what they want, and then we groom these guys and trade them back to the east coast in six years.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

stroke of genius for the Sox doesn’t necessarily mean it is bad for us

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

right, and nightengale was commenting on how Victor fits into their daily lineups, not necessarily the cost of acquiring him.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

This!

by MooneysRebellion on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey, I know. I like the Lee trade and it was universally praised from the Philly perspective. I’m just getting the emotional overreaction out of the way early, like Hagadone’s TJ.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Good call. You can be drinking by four and excited about the new prospects by nine.

by Brad D on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions

i wouldn’t call it a stroke of genius. the onus to trade was on the indians’ shoulders (salary dump), so any non-idiot would realize they needn’t part with their best prospects to score vic.

by BrianRose on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Victor is a good short-term upgrade for the Sox. He’s less and less viable as an everyday catcher, though, and his value as a full-time first baseman is less than it is as a catcher. Plus, he’s slow and has injury issues. He’ll help them this year and next, assuming he’s healthy. After that… who knows. I love the guy and hate seeing him get traded. But, I don’t see trading for him as “genius.” Getting Santana for Blake was genius.

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions

word.

by BrianRose on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Double word.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Santana for Blake was felonious.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

for the record, I haven’t placed my flag in that camp…yet

by thevicar on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Me either. But if Hagadone is the centerpiece of the deal…

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

Spoken like a true Cleveland Fan.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions

So you’re happy about this crap?

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t know what this crap is yet. I’ll wait to see who we got before I pass judgement.

My gut won’t like trading Vic, but my mind might see the value and upside.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Depending on who we get.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

It’s going to take a lot to convince me this is a good trade without getting Buccholz

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

this.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions

See I don’t want Clay – I think there’s something mysteriously wrong with him which is why the Sox won’t promote him. Nothing based in fact. I just would rather other prospects.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

No, I’m not huge on Clay either. But he’s better than any of these schmucks.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

This.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t buy into that woe is Cleveland crap, but when the pundits say you’ve been fleeced, it gives you a sick feeling.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

The pundits live in NY and LA. They cant find Cleveland on a map.

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Sometimes the captain mentions that you can see Cleveland from the right side of the plane while they fly over.

"Gravity is a harsh mistress." - The Tick

by woodsmeister on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes. The captain points to the flame on the ground and reminds the passengers of the river’s being on fire. Randy Newman songs are piped into the cabin…

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I disagree. We’re doing what we need to do and stockpiling arms and depth in the middle of the field. The people who think we got fleeced are the people who yell that we need to get ML players back.

by Joel D on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

So when do we get to convince other teams that Jeremy Sowers is good based on his AAA numbers?

by supermarioelia on Jul 31, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

ASAP i hope

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions

I’ll recommend the hell out of this. I’m frustrated we couldn’t get Buchholz. As I’ve said elsewhere, I would’ve given the Sox more than just Martinez to get him.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe it’s just a function of the fact that we’re usually the ones dealing guys, so we’re not in a strong position, but imagine us playing hardball with another team, refusing to deal one of our underperforming major leaguers who succeeded in AAA. I can’t see it ever happening.

by supermarioelia on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I agree 100%

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope all these new arms don’t stunt the development of Ohka and Sowers.

by Toxicadam on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

they’re handling that quite well themselves actually

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions

Sorry, should have been to TA’s post above.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Heyman is tweeting that the Sox are shopping LaRoche now to make room for Victor….BRING US TOMMY HANSON

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions

nightengale said its’ done, no mention of a 3rd yet.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions

In fact he specifically says Hagadone and Masterson are the pitchers going to Cleveland. Maybe a third, non-pitcher?

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions

Lachore.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

Nah, Will Carroll says he’s going to the Mets for some unstated reason.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Looks like i picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue

As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.

by bigbrabbs on Jul 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions

What’s with the all love for the pitchers still in A levels? If Hagadone is indeed included, I believe that’s the fourth one we acquired this week…. (Graham was still pitching in A)

by jayme on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions

probably their high ceiling. just guessing

As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.

by bigbrabbs on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I guess this could have been seen coming, given Stark’s piece on the Lee trade and about how Shap. is now looking for high-upside guys.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions

And I swear to god, Andy better start every day. Two months of playing every day, let’s settle this once and for all.

by supermarioelia on Jul 31, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions

I agree. Ahem… I mean: This

by MikeCP on Jul 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Dream on. They’ll call up LaPorta and platoon them both, driving us all crazy!

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions

I would hope LaPorta takes Gimenez’s playing time, but who knows.

by supermarioelia on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Gimenez seems like he’s going to occupy the gritty young-kid role in Wedgeverse.

by jdudas on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

I was actually sort of joking (about LaPorta). I don’t think they’re going to play Marte every day.

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

they better bring up LaPorta. i’m dragging my feet to the pro today

by Tim1122 on Jul 31, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions

Tomorrow is Vic bobblehead night

Len Barker perfect game attendee

by SeattleVinny on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions

L.O. Fing L.

by Tim1122 on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Tomorrow is was Vic bobblehead night

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Verducci on MLBN says Brian Price, AA pitcher

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions

brian price is in it

by Sizemorgasim on Jul 31, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions

Bryan Price

by APV on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for the quick link

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Solid. Nice K:BB

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

6.55 ERA in High A This Year. BSAFBSFORQ~!

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Hey, watch it with the I-stats.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

That was the joke…..same as Fred.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions

I realized as I was typing, but I’m flying right now.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

1-6 record in Salem. THIS TRAYYD SUCKS

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions

We had the same thought.

by NickFantana on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions

Peripherals?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Ugh. I hate this.

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions

Ok – 45 minutes left to trade Jhonny, Carrol and Pavano! Make it so!

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 31, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions

This is the only thing that would make me feel better

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions

Lachore is still available.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions

All for Buchholz and we laugh and laugh through the night.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Tim Kawakami (SF beat writer) wonders whether the Gigantes could have had Vic for Alderson/Barnes/Villalona.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions

Kawakami is a columnist not a beat writer.

by palcal on Jul 31, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, oops.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

in other news sandy alomar on sto

by Tim1122 on Jul 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions

MLB Network is having a trade deadline countdown show.

by palcal on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions

Indians are now 2nd youngest ML team after Pirates.

by palcal on Jul 31, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions

And as soon as we finish the trade for that bat boy over in Milwaukee we’ll be the youngest.

by JimmyAB on Jul 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Kevin Goldstein:

Nick Hagadone is a HUGE LHP coming back from TJ — very impressive in short stinnt so far, up to 95, sharp slider, could be closer in the end.

And

I still think Masterson could start, just not in Boston.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:17 PM EDT reply actions

It seems like we’re leading the league in acquiring guys who “could be closers” – Hagadone, Knapp, Perez…

by peter m on Jul 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Ed Price says lachore to Braves.

by FredOx on Jul 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions

nobody sent us the memo

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jul 31, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions

MLB Network confirming deal is done.

by palcal on Jul 31, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions

Masterson, Hagedone, Ryan Price

by palcal on Jul 31, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions

scott rolen is a red

by Sizemorgasim on Jul 31, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions

Jhonny’s gotta be going to the Jays. They need infielders on the left side badly.

by supermarioelia on Jul 31, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

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by gte619n on Jul 31, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions