Rios to White Sox

Alex Rios is a White Sock. Straight waiver claim. Toronto gets nothing and likes it.

6 months ago woodsmeister 61 comments 2 recs |

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Must be the preferable move for Toronto or they wouldn’t have let it happen, right? They must really want out of that contract.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 10, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

.744 OPS this year, .798 last year, career high .865.

Lowest salary over the remaining contract is 9.5 million next year. I’d say easily the correct decision

by Roger Dorn on Aug 10, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rios is a quality player, but by god, not for that price.

by Voltaire on Aug 10, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sadly, for a lot of clubs, this could be decent value. Just not for an $80 million payroll.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 10, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You could make the argument that he’s decent value for an $80M payroll if he’s playing CF every day, which he can (and will, I believe, in Chicago). He’s a +5 win player. His BABIP is just uncharacteristically low this year.

The White Sox got themselves a nice player here.

by xrickx on Aug 10, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not that you disagreed with anything I’ve said here. Just adding to your notion that he’s valuable to a lot of teams.

by xrickx on Aug 10, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, it all depends on what you can afford. The trend is alarming for Rios over the past few years. For a team that needs to rebuild in a down economy, financial flexibility is essential.

by Roger Dorn on Aug 10, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

His babip is low because he’s hitting fewer line drives and more popups than he ever has. His LD% this year is down to 18% versus a career number of 21%, while his IF/FB is 18% for the season compared to 10% for his career. This year could be an anomaly, and he certainly could end up playing up to his contract, but he’s definitely not looking good.

by malexander on Aug 11, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

IC(an)BTGTGAFN.

by FredOx on Aug 10, 2009 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That’s a lot of money now locked up in Peavy and Rios. If they pick up Peavy’s 2013 option that will be 34.5 million on those two players alone that year.

by The Grimace on Aug 10, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yea. They have the cash, though. Thome’s contract expires this year (that’s $13M off the books). Contreras’ does as well ($10M). The White Sox hold an option on Dye for next year at $12M, so they can ditch that too if they need. Konerko expires after 2010 ($12M).

I imagine they’ll keep one of Thome/Dye. But they lose all their big contracts either this year or next.

by xrickx on Aug 10, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh god Cleveland.com is gonna be bonkos for Thome in a few months.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 10, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They’re his rock.

by CBusSteve on Aug 10, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

This is just the kind of move to keep them mediocre well into the next few years.

by danvail on Aug 10, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes sir, I do like it.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 10, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you would have shown me Alex Rios’s stat line for this or last year, I might have guessed “Ben Francisco”.

Horrible contract.

by Toxicadam on Aug 10, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The White Sox continually do things that I think are going to blow up but that work out for them somehow. I am afraid this will be another. In the corners, Rios can be a Gutierrez-like defender.

by APV on Aug 10, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The White Sox continually do things that I think are going to blow up but that work out for them somehow.

Somehow, like perhaps they have gifted scouts and evaluators?

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 10, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s more than just scouting guys correctly….though I do like their scouts. But the White Sox are clearly doing things well that can’t easily be quantified

by APV on Aug 10, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What else do you think it could be?

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 10, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Magic.

Everybody should get ice cream every day.

by junkballer on Aug 11, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

he obviously won that golden fiddle back in ’05 spring training

by talonk on Aug 11, 2009 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I don’t know. I suspect Guillen does a better job managing the team.

by APV on Aug 11, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ooh, feisty point.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 11, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i think one of them is “have some money to spend”

by Brick. on Aug 11, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

to take that further:
—room for error

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 11, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Beckham and Ramirez.

by odradek on Aug 10, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Linebrink contract is starting to look very awful now.

by Toxicadam on Aug 10, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Some guys are good at evaluation but not valuation.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 10, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And vice versa.

by danvail on Aug 11, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sadly, evidently, yes.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 11, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I keep saying, we may hate the White Sox as an institution, but as individuals, they are entertaining as hell to compete against. Unlike — to pick a team purely at random — the Twins.

by fleerdon on Aug 11, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wonder whether the Twins will be less aggravating when they move into a real stadium, and their little brand of StupidBall becomes less effective.

by FredOx on Aug 11, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

That will be interesting to see.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 11, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m interested too.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 11, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I prefer to think of it as, like, mini-baseball. Sort of like skeeball, or Travel Connect Four.

by fleerdon on Aug 11, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Note the position of the ball. Obviously a bunt.

by FredOx on Aug 11, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

What is that, pine? Seems a little soft for a Minnesota playing field.

by danvail on Aug 11, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d like for this to be a terrible move for Chicago, but it really isn’t htat bad.

Toronto really makes out here though. Maybe now they have more $ for HalladaY?

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 10, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don’t agree with you. Rios is an excellent player having a bad year.

Why the heck would Halladay agree to an extension now? There’s no reason for him to stick around.

I didn’t like the return for Lee, but at this rate, I don’t know if Toronto is going to get much more for Halladay this offseason than the Indians got for Lee. I think Halladay is either going to test free agency in a year or even demand a trade this winter.

by Ryan on Aug 10, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not saying extend Halladay now. I’m saying they now have more money available once the time does come. They’re not only saving money now, they’re saving money through the 2014 season.

Thing is, if the Yankees get involved, they have no chance anyways.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 10, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is pointless. He’s committed to exploring free agency. The window to extend him is closing, and he’s apparently not interested anymore.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 10, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One of these guys planning on a big Yankees/Red Sox payoff is going to be disappointed eventually. The big-market teams have a lot of money, and pitchers aren’t too durable. But it can’t become a twice-annual occurrence, can it?

I know Wang is hurt, and the Red Sox need more starting pitching, but eventually the supply of pitchers looking for $200 million payouts will exceed the demand of the few teams that can afford such contracts.

by odradek on Aug 10, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s the Mets’ turn.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 11, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They started this round with Santana.

by odradek on Aug 11, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was almost two years ago.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 11, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are plenty of reasons for Halladay to stick around. Travis Snider is a big one. They won’t need Rios as much.

by odradek on Aug 10, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sarcasm?

by Ryan on Aug 10, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, though I do like Snider.

by odradek on Aug 10, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

or both.

by Brick. on Aug 11, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m guessing they trade Halladay for Carlos Gomez, Philip Humber, Kevin Mulvey, Deolis Guerra and a swift kick in the balls.

by gte619n on Aug 11, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If they stick Rios in CF he’ll be worth a lot more to them than in RF, since they’ve got guys like Dewayne Wise and Brian Anderson out there right now. Still too much money, but remember when we were all clamoring for the Tribe to get him a couple of years ago?

*sigh*

by zempf on Aug 10, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs