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Detroit Tigers at Cleveland Indians, Aug 2, 2009 1:05 PM EDT


Sandy Alomar was inducted into the Indians Hall of Fame yesterday. Bob Feller is to Sandy's left, and Charles Nagy is to his right.

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Sandy Alomar was inducted into the Indians Hall of Fame yesterday. Bob Feller is to Sandy's left, and Charles Nagy is to his right.



Lineups:

Detroit: CF Granderson, 2B Santiago, RF Thomas, 1B Cabrera, DH Guillen, LF Raburn, 3B Inge, C Laird, Everett, P Galarraga

Cleveland: CF Sizemore, SS Cabrera, RF Choo, 3B Peralta, DH Hafner, 2B Valbuena, 1B Marte, LF Crowe, C Shoppach, P Pavano

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At work, nothing goin on, let’s partay.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 12:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I kinda like that lineup

by ASP on Aug 2, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think I’d like Crowe and Shoppach switched. If we’re going to go to the trouble of getting Crowe on base, it’d be nice for the next guy in the order to consistently put bat to ball.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that way we can use him as the second lead off hitter

Fan in Texas

by fanintexas on Aug 2, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d rather now have Crowe in there, but we don’t have a lot of options at the moment

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hafner didn’t have a good July. Be nice to see him finish the season on a tear.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m eating Sbarro in an airport. I paid 7 dollars to be here with ya’ll for the next 20 minutes.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

The bacon at a Sbarro just outside of Boston in 1996 made me violently ill. I’ve never been the same.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great. I’m in the Boston airport.

Really? You’ve never been the same? And you’re a doctor?

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my bowels are fine, but I’m always jealous of people who can eat Sbarro without any hesitations. Pizza fast food seems like a winner.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s been a few years, but I have this ability.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We appreciate it.

So do you think Wedge was as displeased with Shoppach as you were last night, explaining Toregas going all 12 innings?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno. Wedge is stupid but he’s not Humphries stupid.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also! Lost in all this handwringing over LaPorta not coming up is the fact that Wedge is, like many managers (Gardenhire notably), pretty hung up on having a third catcher available, from what I can tell.

That’s, I think, why Toregas is here. And that’s why he held back Shoppach last night.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way to show grit. I owe you a pie to the face

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Aug 2, 2009 1:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

How Pavano can you go?!?

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m about to figure out what this start costs…

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sandy Alomar sort of looks like a movie villain.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doesn’t he look like he’s deceived his way into getting an award from the city at the expense of our hero’s reputation? Doesn’t Bob Feller look like a duped civic official?

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

On an only barely related note, I miss Charles Nagy as a public persona.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at that picture, I have a feeling that they don’t even invite Feller to these things anymore. He just calls them for a pickup car and they oblige.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You see the video of him at the Legends game at the HOF weekend? Crazy for a 90 year old.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume he drives himself. On a riding lawnmower.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Of course, how presumptuous of me.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey you kids, get off my lawn or give me $10 for my autograph!

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That reminds me of Jay’s (I think it was him) goal of getting Feller autographs for less than $10

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A great arbitrage possibility.

by odradek on Aug 2, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

8 pitch battle! In play, no out!

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be really nice if Pavano acts like Byrd towards the end of his tenure.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean he gets traded to Boston and outwardly states that he thinks Boston sucks?

Also! Is Byrd still trying to make a Clemens’ comeback?

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know what Byrd has been doing lately. I haven’t heard of a team expressing interest.

I mean it would be nice for Pavano to go on a 3 or 4 start tear that actually makes someone want him. The shot at a team we don’t like would be nice too.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s Carl. We can’t be choosers.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From May 16th to June 5th, 5 starts, 34 IP, 30K/7BB, 2.62 ERA. Just anything close to that would be nice.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what did byrd say anyway? i can’t find anything on it.

by hyphens on Aug 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His book already came out, right?

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It came out in 2008 and he was scheduled to do signings at the mall the day after he was traded.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note to current/future Indians. Don’t do book signings or bobblehead days.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably safe to schedule them for early April.

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Sidney Ponson is available.

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So is Sidney Poitier. Equally useful on a baseball diamond.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know you’re terrible when you get DFAed ahead of Bruce Chen.

by malexander on Aug 2, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For what? Parties?

Oh hell yeah. This party is going to rule.

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by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thought of you using Google Image search to put this together while paying money to use the Internet at the airport is the funniest part.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once you pay, it’s a sunk cost. Might as well search for pictures of partying dogs.

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

God, how often I’ve used this logic.

“You know, I already paid for this dinner date. Might as well search for pictures of partying dogs.”

“Well, I bought the ticket to go to Mexico before I knew about h1n1. Might as well search for pictures of partying dogs.”

“Hafner’s contract is guaranteed. Might as well search for pictures of partying dogs in denim shorts.”

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice! I’ll send this one on to Pronk.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was actually Pronk’s height and weight at some point during the offseason.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotta get my money’s worth. The worst part is I was just searching things like “party” and, well, the image results for that are not family-airport safe.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

send SBN the bill.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many airports have free internet? I know Phoenix does, but that’s about it.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s try to list them all!

Oakland!

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All sung to the tune of “Jump on It”

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tonto!

You mean Toronto? There’s free wifi in Toronto?

Kemosabe!

Where’s Kemosabe?

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

St. Louis does, but the internet terminals are few and far between.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sunday greetings.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Go Pavano Go!

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Note: Most of the songs on VH1’s 100 Greatest Hard Rock Songs are neither.

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Note: I really have come to hate any VH1 list. I was interested in their Top 100 Songs of the 80’s list until I realized they had some rule about only using an artist/band once. That’s ridiculous.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I spent a few minutes this morning watching a Quarterflash concert. That’s time I’ll never get back.

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, you should have hardened your heart.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Asdrubal’s a keeper.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Glad this is settled.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CHOOCHOO

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was that in Tiger Stadium last week that it happened.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about?

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t preview.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yoinks. I didn’t finish my statement.

Didn’t this same thing happen in Tiger Stadium last week?

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don’t know what we’re talking about.

This is the pictures of partying dogs thread.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Run.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Run! It’s the cops, and Ponson is here.

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sidney’s got his sword! He’s a knight! He’ll take ’em!

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that was my girlfriend I would pretty much just leave her at the stadium.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ask the field cop to escort her out.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’d she do?

I am on gameday people! I am using all my bandwidth on image searches and a terible joke boolean image I created.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

terrible joke boolean imageengine

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boolean jokes are the lowest form of humour.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Puns redeemed! Yesss!

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you created a Terrible Joke Boolean Engine? Are you gonna market it as the TJBE?

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choo opposite field shot that bounced up toward that area down the third base line that starts to rise toward the foul pole. A girl reached out and grabbed at it, deflected it off her hand, making it a ground rule double. Umps gave Asdrubal home plate anyway.

Weird commentary from Manning on the replay: “Yeah, if that fan doesn’t touch it—and it’s a girl, too—then…”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

manning. Hahahaha.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choo hit into the left field corner. Woman in stands touched the ball. Cabrera was allowed to score from first.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, hello Mr. and Mrs. Datz! Another cosmo for each of you?

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa! That kind of party! Nice!

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When do they drink the poison?

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Early runs are great.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Haf’s really getting on my nerves

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah his OPS is still over 850, I can deal.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I’m just saying he’s really cold right now.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did anyone notice that Shapiro did not include him in the talent pool going forward in his news conference, wonder why? not trying to be funny or a asshole, it just seemed strange me.

Fan in Texas

by fanintexas on Aug 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you’re not trying to funny, or an asshole, then get the hell out of here.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, you got a good point

Fan in Texas

by fanintexas on Aug 2, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I only have rally puppy:

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you knit that?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not the puppy.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think my largest frustration is when players fail at hitting sac flies.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is very annoying.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Even at his peak of failness, Marte showed us how easy it is to hit medium-deep flyouts.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giant Picture Overload!

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is what it was like in 2006.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, I’m going to Rejykavik for like an hour.

APV is in the lead for best dog party.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 1:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tell me you searched for “keg dog”

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I found that one, too

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So it turns out today’s start not costing us too much for Pavano (~$75K). His next start stands a good chance of costing us about $275K, though.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Do we even take that much in at the gate?

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guys, need I remind you that Indians baseball is SERIOUS BUSINESS

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was inside.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even though I’m not really in favor of this game….

Winner.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it’s not clear, this picture is indeed the winner. We can consider the contest over. It is impossible you could find a better dog party picture than this.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I coulda made that one smaller.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh and, yeah. Way to go, Carl.

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m glad I’ve got this game on TV so I don’t have to pay as much attention to all these dog pics

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Greetings, earthlings.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dog-free question: Kip Winger — big doofus, or world’s biggest doofus?

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That looked like Baboo playing the drums.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sling Blade is a pretty crazy movie

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tribeinsider just texted me the lineup. Either that’s a twitter fail on their part of my phone is in a weird reception spot.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Drive.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is the zone Carmona needed.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Slider turned 19.

What’s going to happen when he turns 21?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah why is Slider in Cleveland and not in Windsor right now?

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn’t get a passport.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silly question.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Columbus Clipper Seal is there.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou!

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blanked on the name!

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another drive.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE. I like the future.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THree Drives that inning.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone fill me in on this drive thing.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ll try to find the exact post

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s the new Moneyball. It’s Driveball.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Andy Marte is Ted Williams.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His head’s frozen in Scottsdale?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would explain a fair amount.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hit-worthy contact.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s up guys? First game thread in a while.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I’m pretty sure they’ve been posted daily.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I support this drive thing.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FYI, Nickfantana moved from Atlanta to Lansing yesterday. So there’s that.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Our condolences.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HEY! Did you guys know you can adjust the size of this posting window by dragging the lower left corner? I learned something.

Seamless followup, do you think indiansfan has the comment box fullscreen?

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec for the last line.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and amazing pen has his about this wide:

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This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rrrrrrrec

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Force quit and move to trash.

by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Diatriber links to a Christina Kharl piece about the Indians trade acquisitions:

Donald is an athletic shortstop, with a good swing that’s far from slappy at the plate, but even allowing for the knee injury that has hampered him this season, he’s a player who next year will be headed into his age-25 season with a track record of showing some power, but not a lot, and some speed, but not a lot. In this, he’s very much like Asdrubal Cabrera, the man he’ll be paired off with up the middle, giving the Indians a nifty pair of defenders around the bag, neither of whom should be offensive zeroes, but neither of whom look like burgeoning offensive stars either.

My emphasis added. Why does everyone underestimate Cabrera?

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what the…

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never heard of her. I’m picturing her wearing khaki pants.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

She’s a big shot at BP I think.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every time I read her stuff I always get a mild “what?” feeling.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Droobs is THREE YEARS YOUNGER than this Donald guy. He has an OPS+ of 103, 88 and 103 in his age 21, 22 and 23 seasons in MLB.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They’re not believers. Although in the BP book this year, the quote re: Droobs was that he very well might end up the best all-around SS in the AL by season’s end.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tigers also getting into the “hit drives right at people” idea. Yay, let’s confuse BABIP!

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Roughly speaking, Trevor Crowe was brought up to be a back-up CF.

Trevor Crowe is now a starting LF.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My MLB.TV is moving in really slow motion. Any suggestions?

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Slow down time until you reach equivalence.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How’s your connection? Sometimes restarting the browers helps for me, but only if the connection is good.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe your internet?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s probably the internet. I just moved apartments and I’m currently stealing internet.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there ya have it.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Move in slow motion too, so that in relative terms it’s at full speed?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um….I’m gonna need to see that play again.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bad call. Lucky break.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey! We got a call! 2009 is completely turning around!

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LET’S MOVE ON MANNING.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This slow motion stuff is fun.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The sixth inning was great. The Indians are up 12-0 now.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sizemore and Asdrubal both with DRIVES.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seen on Twitter:

anyone else agree that the indians have given up on this season?

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Castro provides this little tidbit on Juan Lara

# Keep in mind that Lara is playing alongside a bunch of 18 year olds who really have no idea who he is. But in his first appearance, he received a standing ovation from both the Indians’ team and the opposition.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Clete Thomas is not good. And the Indians can’t stop him.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But his own stupidity can.

by malexander on Aug 2, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wait, I guess that’s not fair. I didn’t realize that he left before the ball was hit.

by malexander on Aug 2, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LETS GO CARL.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This commercial on MLB.tv might drive me insane.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So…. a lot of non-hit drives today…. Kind of frustrating.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The entire lineup is making solid contact, just right at guys.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other words, “a lot of non-hit drives”.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes. pretty much exactly what you said.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish our offense was playing like this in the second half of June and first half of July

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there was about a month long stretch where aside from a big outburst against Oakland and a big outburst against the White Sox, we regularly scored 3 runs or less. The last two weeks we’ve been doing much better.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHEELS PERALTA.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C’mon Andy.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MARTE PARTY!

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MARTE PAR-TAY?

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

indeed. My mistake.

Like I said, first game thread in a while. I’m a little rusty.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MARTE 2 RUN DOUBLE!

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man he looks good.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The approach was good.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ANDY “BALL THREE” MARTE!!!

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Partay!

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You gotta fight for your right to Marte!

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PARTAY

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

that hit made me really happy

by ASP on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the sound of that. Marte double, Peralta and Valbuena score.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has a Dominican flavor to it

by bewwolv on Aug 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What does MArte have to do to stay on the roster for next spring?

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You know, I’d say probably exactly what he’s doing.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grow a beard.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could not hurt.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

keep hitting like that…I still don’t think the Indians are stupid

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trevor Crowe?!?! niiiice…

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4-0

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let’s make this Veras-proof.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No such thing.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The hits/drive luck is evening out!

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another drive!

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is the National Mascot at the park? Are he and slider friends?

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you’re not friends with the Nationals mascot, you’re not friends with America.

by malexander on Aug 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

O’s = Communist.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why do the Orioles hate America?

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame Angelos… like all O’s fans.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhh Slider’s birthday is today isn’t it?

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He and Slider have a lot in common. The Royals’ mascot musta been busy.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GRADY HR!!!!!!!! 6-0!

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You’re not getting that one, Curtis!

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So if Pavano goes on one of those Paul Byrd like streaks we move him?

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Pavano gets moved regardless… you know, as long as anybody wants him.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So if anyone makes an offer for Pavano goes on one of those Paul Byrd like streaks we move him?.

Fixed.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Westbrook is back, he’s gone for sure.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

/fingers in my ears

LALALALALALALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a sensitive topic for you?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. :(

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m starting to think she is sensitive about all pitchers.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GIANT OVERFLOWING VATS OF OFFENSE

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Granderson just didn’t feel like robbing that one.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That catch was probably the most disheartening moment on the field this season.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That catch was probably the most disheartening moment on the field this season.

At least for me.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. It felt like we were getting a little momentum until that happened.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ROB THAT CURTIS

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Aug 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

STROOOOBS

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Droobs is not an offensive force

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THAT. WAS. AWESOME.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Pavano, trade value!

by malexander on Aug 2, 2009 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So I was curious and googled it after seeing the last commercial break. The Verizon guy reportedly makes $3M per year for his role as the Verizon guy.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT?! NO WAY. How?

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what I could find. He won’t admit how much he makes, but I found a website with that number. Not sure how true it is.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, he’s got some leverage, I guess.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is no way. I mean, the Verizon guy walks into your office and says, “I want $3m.” The exec IMMEDIATELY replaces him with a lookalike. Done. The campaign continues. He’s not Jarred or something. They didn’t build the whole campaign around him as a real person. He’s just some guy…

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We saw what happened when Alltel did that with the fat guy. Total chaos and a lack of artistry!

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is there actually some kind of story behind that? I just noticed they replaced one overweight dude for another in a wig.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea.

The sour cream commercial turned me against them.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what’s $3M compared to the total cost of the ad campaign?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When the difference is $3m or $200k, I think it’s probably worth just replacing the guy.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have a frame of reference? I really don’t.

He’s not just on TV ads — billboards, print ads….

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Admittedly, no. It just doesn’t make business sense.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it’s true, I bet it does. It’s not like they haven’t done the calculations.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I google image searched “Verizon guy look a like.” First result:

I would keep my $2.8m. If the Verizon guy doesn’t want the $200k, he can go back to being a waiter or whatever.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rivers Cuomo is a chameleon.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just think $3M seems like beans when you take into account how much they must spend on advertising overall, and the fact that he’s in pretty much every single ad in every single medium. They don’t have anyone else they have to pay, and he’s pretty recognizable at this point.

I’m sure they pull in at least that much in a single day of drastically overcharging for text messages.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SMS rates are hysterical. I can’t believe the FCC hasn’t put the kbosh on that racket. I mean, it’s price fixing if there has ever been!

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It costs them literally nothing when you text. It’s a markup of ∞%

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If AT&T charged data downloads at the rate they charge text messages downloading 1MB of data would cost you $1,310.72.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not going to last. It can’t. People are using alternative means.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Google Voice is the beginning of the end, I imagine.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I look forward to a near future in which everything is a flat rate — calling minutes, internet use, etc. — and you pay $30-40 a month. It’s more than enough for them to turn a good profit.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I switched to Boost Mobile’s $50/month unlimited everything plan. So far, I’m happy with it.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s cool. Smooth connections and everything? Do you use the internet much?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve used it a few times, and I had no problems with it. The only downside is their iDen phones aren’t all that great, but you can get a CDMA account and then switch to a Sprint (Sprint/Nextel owns Boost) Smartphone. I have a Motorola Q I’m going to move onto my account.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only downside is their iDen phones aren’t all that great

Call me old fashioned (it’s OK, I totally am), but I really really dislike cell phones that don’t reach your mouth when you hold them up to your ear.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This used to bother me a looooot, but not really now.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suspect more and more people will be switching to plans like that as their current contracts run out. Another thing I’d really like to see is a complete disassociation of phones from networks. The two should really be separate decisions entirely.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree. I hate that I can’t use the phones I like the most on whatever network I choose. It seems counter intuitive to me, but what do I know.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, there is no way in which it benefits consumers. It’s purely a way for the big companies to maintain power.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Currently, there are numerous technical hurdles with porting the phones network to network.

When LTE really starts rolling we’ll likely have 100% compatibility between all the carriers. LTE is going to rock your face off.

FWIW, T-Mobile will let you “unlock” your phone after six months on the contract. You could then take it to AT&T if you were so inclined.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, most cell companies will do this, provided you don’t tell them why you want the phone unlocked.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What technical hurdles? Isn’t it just a matter of switching out a chip?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the US we have three different protocols running on numerous different frequencies.

For instance, a Verizon phone is a CDMA phone and an AT&T phone uses GSM. The kicker is that Sprint is also CDMA, but it runs on a different frequency than Verizon.

These are all real, network specific issues, not necessarily the carrier just trying to game the customers.

Unfortunately, from an engineering perspective, it’s not just a straight drop of removing a CDMA controller and firing in a GSM controller.

I’m a Computer Engineer, so it’s frustrating for designers as well. We’re all anxiously awaiting LTE.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did not know most of this.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I mean, you can still be confident that they’re trying 100%, unequivocally, to screw you.

Just maybe not 100% on the phones… more like 95% on the phones.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds about right

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on the type of network. Like with Sprint/Nextel/Boost, Sprint is a CDMA network. Nextel is an iDEN network. Boost has both available (although they don’t advertise the CDMA, for some reason). You can’t use a Sprint CDMA phone on the Nextel network.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, having the guy on an exclusive contract keeps him from appearing in spoof ads by the competitors.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with all of this.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s David Dellucci money there.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sheesh. Talk about a plum gig.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And they said looking like a dweeb would never pay off. Serves them right.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is STO going to show us every Victor Martinez at bat the rest of the season? Hey, Al, here’s my open wound – keep pouring in the salt, man.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I still have not seen him wearing that outfit.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m writing Victor a letter.

“Boston will never love you the way we love you!”

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"No oneBoston will never love you the way we love you!"

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G50CZ5lw2CQ

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never. Watching. STO.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing the Tigers atop the division despite their not being all that good really points out how much our sucking has hurt us.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Coulda been an easy year to pick up a division title.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But, on the bright side, then we wouldn’t have all this pitching for the future.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the heck are Wedge and Pavano arguing about?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dick York vs. Dick Sargent. It’s a longstanding fight.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Music vs lyrics.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Addams Family vs. The Munsters

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Phelps: criminal or hero.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Newton vs. Leibniz

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isaac vs. Fig

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Abbey Road vs The Beatles.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Piper at the Gates of Dawn vs The Wall.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C’mon now, The Dark Side Of The Moon vs Wish You Were Here is a far more arguable match-up.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going with Creativity vs Bombast.

I still believe in Carl Pavano.

by salome on Aug 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OoOooOoOoo

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Paper vs. Plastic,

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s exactly the AB that has ruined Andy’s last three years.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He really does need to be ahead in the count. Otherwise he goes fishing.

by supermarioelia on Aug 2, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That one was NOT pretty.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did appreciate the way he drove the ball to right field earlier in the game.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forgive the subject matter, but this demands a posting:

Our boy cat, Moe, waited for Salome to leave the room earlier, then wasted no time leaping up to the top level of her computer desk (two “flights” up, if you will), and then managing to ruin her “Cliff Lee: 20 Wins” poster. Little creep even took a bite out of it for good measure.

So, I guess Moe is over Cliff. Or heartbroken over Victor. Or something. He ain’t talkin’.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Definitely heartbroken. Even cats aren’t so fickle.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for my 100% evil cat, Cuthbert. He would do it just to cause you pain.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m kinda glad we don’t have a Mark Shapiro poster.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, no, Moe. Say it ain’t so!

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh jesus now they’re mentioning the Browns. I mean c’mon… ENOUGH. Enough with the Victor in Sox uni, enough with the Browns. I’m just trying to mindless watch a perfectly meaningless baseball game on a lazy Sunday.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Valbuena!

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love Bill Bavasi.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOOOOO

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hola all.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow, the entire Red Sox organization is on steroids? Right down to the security guys?

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That roid rage probably comes in handy then.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Vic’ll flunk the physical.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I’m looking at Miguel Cabrera and thinking, this guys is really having a dissapointing season… then I look it up. No. No he is not. 948 OPS, good for a +145.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

z

SIT DOWN FAT CAB

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TRADE PAVANO NOW. TODAY.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HAVE HIM FACE DETROIT EVERY START

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

READ THIS SHAPRIO!!!!

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shoppach… sigh

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kelly… that looked awful.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Take that Whats-her-name BP lady!

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

STROOOOOBS!

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

way gone

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Weeeeeee!

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Drooooooooooooooooooo

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ooooooooooooo

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to rec, but don’t know which part to rec.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leyland’s pissed with Armando. Rightfully.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Droobs is not an offensive force

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Droobs is not an offensive force mortal.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha I like how I can hear Manning in the background audio when he’s not actually on the mic.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I had an accident with a horse / Instead of getting better, it just got worse.

This (terrible) commercial always makes me await the next almost-rhyming couplet:

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a good start from Carl. Now would be a good time to work out a trade for him….as I said, that next start will involve a $100K start bonus and a $100K innings bonus. We don’t need to pay for that.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if he can file a grievance if the Indians just release him? If he’s released, though, are the Indians responsible for the incentives? I can’t believe that the contract wouldn’t specify that incentives earned when playing for another team are paid by the other team.

1) You can look at his entire body of work and say “not good, Carl.” But we know deep down he’s been decent, spare a few disasters.

2) You can look at the direction of the team and say, “We’re going young. Sorry.”

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think he’d have much of a case for a grievance. He signed the contract and a team has the right to decide who they want and who they don’t. There is a reason part of his contract wasn’t guaranteed.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe they just keep him for the playoff run.

:)

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it depends — the issue of “good faith” comes up in contracts like this from time to time. Simply, there is an implied “good faith” component of contracts, and choosing not to pitch someone for strictly cost-cutting purposes could amount to a breach of the implied good faith clause of a contract. But, there are plausible explanations the FO could offer aside from monetary concerns to justify it.

by supersizeme on Aug 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes, Underpants and Manning, giving us the old “when he pitches deep in the game he typically pitches well” spiel.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“…and it’s a girl…”

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hafner should stop slumping and start doing something good

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yea his last week has sucked.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s looked very lost.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s fouling off all inside fastballs. Pronk would turn on those and deposit them. He’s also not driving the ball to left field.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Valmuybuena

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This Valbuena guy is really comin’ on.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

since the start of July: 321/.368/.472

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which site do you use for these time-bound cumulative stats?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

C’MON ANDY.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hearing the kids doing well is making this weekend far more tolerable than it was on Friday night.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

opposing pitchers are afraid to give Marte something to hit

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just realized who Crowe reminds me of… the guy who plays Tweeder in Varsity Blues.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES! ABSOLUTELY!

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wanna see the new Tweeder endzone dance? (dances) You know what I call it? The New Tweeder Endzone Dance.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woo Hoo!

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, Everett is such an all-bat no-glove guy.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m really liking Adam Everett’s defense in this series.

by malexander on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So much for Everett’s glove.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Adam Everett is the best defensive shortstop ever

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shoppach!!!

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m lovin’ it. ©

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FU TE NI TA KA SHI SAI TO!

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was a pretty poor defensive play by Granderson.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

unpossible.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, all or nothing there. What else can you do?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way he stabbed at it without going down and smothering the ball in my opinion was a poor choice.. but maybe I’m splitting hairs.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a close game if he has to keep the ball in front of him, I bet he eases off it.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I just expected him to just go ahead and dive wit the LF backing him up.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We are now no longer the Knights Who Say Ni. We are now the Knights Who Say Ekki Ekki Ekki Patang Zoop Boing!

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

/me breaks out a herring and sets to work

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just switched on as I was waiting for the picture to load and heard “and he comes Marte, 11 zip tribe” a very nice way to join the game.

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 2, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why am I not surprised the Royals are getting no-hit?

by Ryan on Aug 2, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who’s pitching?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shields.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn you.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

<8(

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shields.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since we’re on this game.. can someone explain why Upton is still batting leadoff for the Rays?

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a 22 year old, he walked 67 times. As a 23 year old, he walked 97 times. He can steal bases (though not efficiently).

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His OBP this year is .319, just seems like he’d be a good 9 hole hitter and Crawford would be a better option at the top.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carl Crawford got on base at a .319 clip last year, and a .355 clip the year before.

For comparison, Upton was at .383 and .386.

You can make the argument that their better off this year with the lineup changed, but then you’d be saying that Grady Sizemore shouldn’t be hitting leadoff either — not because you think he’s better suited for the third or fourth spot, but because Grady has a .327 OBP this year.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Crawford had a specifically down year, like Upton is having, and he got moved down to the 7 spot I think. And I didn’t think Sizemore should be batting leadoff but I’m ok with it now since he seems to be turning the corner from earlier in the season. Maybe this is the case with Upton and I don’t know it.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point is that we know Upton is not the kind of player reflected by his stats, much the same with Grady.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I didn’t, but I shall take your word for it. Honestly, they could bat Darth Vader in the leadoff and I really wouldn’t care.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure Vader has good speed on the paths, but he can force-bend every pitch right into his wheelhouse.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On base machine.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And once it’s there, he can execute?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn’t even have to swing, he can walk every time, put the ball in the dirt. Be the first person to play a full season without registering an AB.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And his stealing skills are unreal. It’s like he knows when the pitcher is going to the plate even before the pitcher does.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s not the base runner you’re looking for.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What have I done?

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bahahahahaha.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn’t Vader pretty clearly be a Yankees fan?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm, good point.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes!

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And, while we’re at it:

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I love how Vader wears his caps the same way CC does. Unintentional, perhaps, but a nice touch.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s through seven now.

by Ryan on Aug 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey APV,

Which website do you recommend for getting time-bound cumulative stats, like you just spit out for Valbuena since the start of July?

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

B-Ref

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by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

to parent up reply reply actions actions

by odradek on Aug 2, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vic’s up with the bases juiced.

by Chemo on Aug 2, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Unintentional humor! Ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh-ugh!

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two run single.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

CC giving up bombs left and right.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for some reason this makes me smile.

by obobcatu on Aug 2, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There goes the shutout. Trade him now.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There goes the shutout. Damn you, eighth inning!

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NOOOOOOO

by Ryan on Aug 2, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Buchholz today: 3.0 IP, 6 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 1 SO

by Ryan on Aug 2, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

HE COULD HAVE BEEN OURS. FIRE SHARPO.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is some consolation.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Check back in 5 years.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This makes me smile more that it probably should.

by dgcambridge on Aug 2, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s no reason a much-hyped Red Sox starter getting shelled shouldn’t make you smile.

by still ill on Aug 2, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pavano goes 8 strong!

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This was a joke when I said it in the third or something, but as it turns out I was just one inning and one run off:

The sixth inning was great. The Indians are up 12-0 now.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 10:54 AM PDT

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Have any guesses as to the next Powerball number?

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure but every number will be one off.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like that’s a problem. I’ll just buy two tickets. :)

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

playing all the combinations would still be worth it.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure would be fun waiting in THAT line.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just getting here. I almost had a heart attack when I looked at the line score on LGT, which is showing a no hitter through 8 btw.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 2, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BUCHHOLZIAN TRADE VALUE!

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard they turned down a Buchholtz for Pujols deal.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

11 runs on no hits!

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just one Adam Everitt and Curtis Granderson error after another.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 2, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant for us. I didn’t even notice that no hits are registered for us, either.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 2, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what I assumed you meant, but I went and looked at it and saw no one had hits haha.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I now see Pavano’s no hitter lasted exactly no batters.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 2, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is efficiency

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get it over with quickly, move on to winning.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Shields loses his no-no to the first batter in the 8th.

by malexander on Aug 2, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My watching of Shields jinxed him. First batter I saw.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well hey, at least the Tigers have Washburn.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Wedge… put in Wood so Shap has reason to fire you. [Game completed stat]

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don’t you sometimes wonder if Wedge has some compromising pictures (or maybe some taped-together shredded faxes) in a safe somewhere? I wish I had this level of job security.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jake is pitching at AA Tuesday.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 2, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I’m stuck with the Tigers feed, but they just showed a quick run of highlights from the game, including a Pavano’s swinging K of Granderson where they quick zoom to Carl’s (yes, Carl’s, not Curtis’) face. Just in time for him to scream F!@*!

I’ve watched it a few times on DVR. I’m glad they left that in.

by dgcambridge on Aug 2, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok. I must depart.

Good work today, ladies and gents.

by xrickx on Aug 2, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“There are some good players in the Arizona Fall League… In fact, Eric Wedge was an AFL player…”

There is a disconnect here, Rick.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 2, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shut down the Arizona Fall League, take no chances!!!

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Choo was smooth with the sun there.

I want Jensen to throw strikes. Just so I believe he can.

by dgcambridge on Aug 2, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There it is.

by dgcambridge on Aug 2, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ballgame.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jensen Cannot Lose.

by gte619n on Aug 2, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ballgame, almost 8am Monday, time for work

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 2, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I treadmilled for the last couple of innings. I figured that way, if things went to hell, I wouldn’t get arrested for making online threats toward the entire Tribe management.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When did I lose my sunny optimism, dammit?

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friday afternoon.

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by vbc3 on Aug 2, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sad face.

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by USSChoo on Aug 2, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admit I flipped the bird in the general direction of Carnegie and Ontario. Well, it took me two tries. The first time, I flipped the bird more in the direction of Taco Bell.

by Julie on Aug 2, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you have against chalupas?

by FredOx on Aug 2, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

chalupas

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