Game 105: Indians 11, Tigers 1

by Ryan on Aug 2, 2009 4:30 PM EDT in Game Recaps

While the Indians offense took apart Armando Galarraga, Carl Pavano worked his magic on Detroit's lineup. Pavano, who's pitching not only for his next contract, but for perhaps other teams, went eight strong innings, throwing exactly 100 pitches.

For the Indians, Asdrubal Cabrera and Grady Sizemore had the biggest days at the plate. Cabrera hit a two-run homer in the sixth, and collected two more hits and a walk. Grady also hit a two-run homer. Jhonny Peralta and Luis Valbuena both had two hits, Agent M got on base twice, with one coming on a two-run double.

Next Up: Baker vs. Huff, 7:05 PM (Tuesday)

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via www.fangraphs.com

Highest WPA		Lowest WPA
Carl Pavano	.257	Travis Hafner	-.109
Andy Marte	.104	Kelly Shoppach	-.033
Shin-Soo Choo	.083

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This is in the game thread somewhere, but Pavano picked a good time to pitch well. His next start will cost about $275K…I would not be surprised for him to not make that start with Cleveland.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions

Where’s the extra $75,000 coming from?

I know the next start should feature $100K incentives for the 22nd starts and getting over 130 IP … is the rest just the pro-rated amount of his base contract?

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 2, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Exactly…it’s approximate the pro-rated portion of his $1.5M base…and actually in the next start it’ll be more like $70K

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions

That’s what I figured. Thanks!

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 2, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions

So far: 21 starts, 125.2 IP = 200K in incentives.

Assuming 5 IP per start …

Aug 8 — 22, 130 IP — 200K
Aug 14 — 23, 135 IP
Aug 20 — 24, 140 IP — 300K
Aug 25 — 25, 145 IP
Aug 30 — 26, 150 IP — 300K
Sep 5 — 27, 155 IP
Sep 11 — 28, 160 IP — 350K
Sep 16 — 29, 165 IP
Sep 22 — 30, 170 IP — 400K
Sep 27 — 31, 175 IP
Oct 2 — 32, 180 IP — 500K

Those are just the incentives. Since base salary is based on days of service time, that’s around 50K per start.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 2, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions

Since base salary is based on days of service time

Ahh…I was calculating it on a per start basis. Still…it’d be nice to see him go someplace this week.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I don’t mind watching him pitch for us — I mean, who cares at this point — but I would like for us not to spend that last 2.5M.

Can’t see how we or anyone else can let him make that 32nd start and 180th inning pitched.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 2, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Pavano

Hopefully we can get something for Pavano and Carroll too. All we are saying is give Marte a chance.

by LAIndianfan on Aug 2, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions

I’d expect very little. Whoever we get back won’t be a guy on someone’s 40-man, and might just be cash considerations.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions

I disagree slightly. I’ll give you that we’re not picking up someone off another teams 40-man, but given how inexpensive he is and if he can put together another solid outing like he did tonight – I think we can pick up another player. Maybe a high-A or some AA guy with some upside. Not necessarily a pitcher, mind you, but someone.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Aug 2, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I think it is possible we get someone, but if so, I’d definitely guess a low-A “flyer” kind of guy

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions

I’d rather trade him for cash considerations and use the money we save on draft picks, ala Byrd. But in all honesty I wouldn’t be surprised to see him pitching for us next year. If history is any indication Shapiro probably wants to take a flyer on a veteran starting pitcher for the 5th spot in the rotation.

With the free agency depressed market and our history, I think there’s a decent chance he resigns.

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by world dictator on Aug 3, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions

Rondon throwing…4 IP, 57 pitches, 2 singles, 1 BB, 4 K. Still tied at 0.

He’s allowed three baserunners, and Marson has gunned down two of them.

by dgcambridge on Aug 2, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions

OK fine, Rondon gives up a walk and then a 2-run homer in the 5th, with 2 Ks. Hodges leads off the bottom with a HR.

6 Clippers have made their major league debut so far this year. Only 1 at this time last year (S Lewis).

by dgcambridge on Aug 2, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe it’s the Presidente speaking, but how hard is it to expect the team to continue the performance we’ve seen in the past couple weeks next April???

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Aug 2, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions

Note to self: Sleep through games more often.

by AngG on Aug 2, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions

Rondon goes 6 pretty solid innings. Jess Todd comes in and strikes out the side in the 7th.

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions

In the “too soon” department … is it too soon to start start drooling over the bullpen’s possibility next season?

If only Kerry Wood could locate his slider …

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 2, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Todd goes 2 perfect innings with 4 Ks. Jeanmar Gomez is off to a good start in Akron through 3 (1 hit, 0 walks, 5 Ks).

by APV on Aug 2, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions

When does Todd time start?

by Roger Dorn on Aug 2, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions

About two years before KNAPP TIME!

by Joel D on Aug 2, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

Paying for internet in Iceland and all I can say is:

MARTE LIVES.

by afh4 on Aug 2, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions

Iceland this time? You really do get around. I’m intrigued as to what you’re doing. We should talk at some point.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Aug 2, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I was just connecting. This is the trip I was talking about earlier in the year: I’m in Denmark with my father now (where he works often), then to the Fjords in Norway, then to Morocco.

I always try to fly through Rejykavik because I like that airline (IcelandAir) and because it’s so small you get through EU customs quickly there before getting to the continent. m

by afh4 on Aug 3, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions

Obligatory “pining for the fjords” comment.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 3, 2009 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions

I used to play a regular call-in game show on WCBE-FM in Columbus early Sunday mornings. Each player needed a code name. Mine was “Pining for the Fjords.”

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 3, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions