Game Thread 2: August 20, 2009
by Ryan on Aug 20, 2009 9:21 PM EDT
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Indians 8-1, top of the seventh.
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Ryan, I find it uncomfortable to think you’re just sitting out there, watching.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions
This is even worse. I hope he’s wearing a shirt, at least.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i disagree. he was at a reasonable pitch level, and throwing well through 6
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
he was at 88 to start the inning. three LH batters (two switch hitters) were due up. the bullpen has pitched well lately. the indians are up by 7 runs.
angels announcers said wedge had talked about 95-100, but they may not, in fact, know anything at all
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
true enough. do we think a guy his age has any say? does wedge/willis ask him how he’s feeling/if he wants to keep going?
i’m actually picturing wedge treating this guy like a pledge. do not speak unless spoken to, and get me a bacon, egg and cheese every morning…
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This is where I stand.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sipp’s a keeper.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions
A lot of keepers in the bullpen lately.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t believe it until it’s dashed my hopes in a pennant race.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was pretty egregious by both of us.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I’m going to stop.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i find myself rather engaging, frankly
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sometimes I wish we didn’t all have usernames so I could talk to myself here and no one would know. I don’t think I could do it properly signed in.
Mine is named “afh4”
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
We talk to ourselves a lot about basketball.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
surprisingly not a lot about the Bills though. I suppose it is courteous of you to avoid non-Browns football here
This is where I act like I haven’t watched The T.O. Show.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It could use Tom Servo. But it’s still fun.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i watched the premiere online yesterday…i enjoyed it. shaq is really easy to like.
anyone hear this controversy that he stole the show idea from steve nash?
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The best part is the guys at the sports desk. It’s not even close. And this is a show involving Shaq talking trash.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Very few shows would not be improved with judicious use of Tom Servo.
"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau
by woodsmeister on Aug 20, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
how would losing the usernames make that better?
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
ohhhhh, if it were ALL anonymous… that would be pretty boss actually
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i don’t understand…did our ’pen just work out of a 1 out bases loaded baseball situation?
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
An illusion staged by David Sipperfield.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
by Julie on Aug 20, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heading home. Hoping to hear The One True Perez make an appearance en route. LGT.
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Force quit and move to trash.
It would be ironic if we had this incredible bullpen the year after Wedge left. He might kick his dog.
i just can’t see wedge kicking giminez
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You beat me to my Blake joke.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I find it difficult to believe this guy’s name is pronounced “Lukes.”
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions
it’s pronounced “thermometer”…
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was pronounced “Chone.”
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
by Julie on Aug 20, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is simply… Muy Buena.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
good iso, bad luck on balls in play, and decent glovework
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Valbuena has been the biggest surprise this year. I mean, I had zero expectations for him when we traded for him. I thought Smith was the big “get” in that trade.
i try not to think of gutz right now… how awesome would it have been to have him in the outfield instead of crowe/giminez
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
how awesome would it have been to have him in the outfield instead ofcrowe/giminezlaporta/choo
Meh.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
well not that laporta is up i’m fine with that… but gutz would help our pitchers a ton and he’s actually hitting this year
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t dispute Gutz’s divinity with the glove.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? I mean Franky was out of options and not really showing any signs of figuring out how to hit. He was seen as 4th OF’er by most people in the league,
There was a lot of discussion about Gutz’s value in the offseason and I think this site reached a consensus that his glove alone made him extremely valuable even if he couldn’t hit that well. That said, most were happy with the trade because of Valbuena’s potential
i wasn’t around for that, so i can’t comment… but i’d probably have been of the valbuena camp
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Valbuena had potential … but he was supposed to be a defensive whiz/soft-hitting 2b that MIGHT make the team in 2010. Not this line drive-smacking, Asdrubal clone that we now have.
I don’t think that is necessarily true. Adam from the Annual:
…reports suggest his defense is solid though unspectacular. He projects as an above-average hitter at second base…..
Not saying it is gospel, but I don’t think he just made that up. There was the opinion that he was going to be a good hitter
Ryan and I did a late-night trade analysis on that deal that actually was pretty good, in retrospect. We speculated that we might not even pick up another infielder — not true — based on the idea that we might already have a viable infield with Valbuena in the fold — true. I think it’s an example of our better work, and we were bullish on Valbuena.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Also! See guys, I was high on Josh J (make fun of THAT, logo) this offseason, too!
This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.
Reports pegged him as having weight problems, but he looks really slim to me.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I kind of thought, well whoever has the better year of Hodges and him, I’ll back that guy. Hasn’t been much of a competition. And no, I didn’t think Marte would be the Indians’ first baseman in August.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw him last year, liked him, had high expectations. I like him the same way I liked Asdrubal in Aug. 07. But I won’t jinx him and buy a jersey in the offseason like I did w the 13.
That didn’t exactly jinx the Droobs.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a line drive in the box score!
/generic radio color analyst
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
drive!
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
how pissed off do you think that makes the twins? i love this
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ot…
usain bolt? holy smokes
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
I hate the PED era. I can’t really appreciate greatness anymore like I used to. I always assume the worst.
or that semenya getting tested for secondary male characteristics… that’s kind of crazy… i’m actually paying attention to this to see how it turns out
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to poll the girls in the room about whether they’d talk to that person in a bar.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Do what? What are we talking about?
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
a s. african runner may possess some male characteristics despite her birth certificate listing her as female… there may be some medals being retroactively stripped pending some very intense testing (including psychological tests, which might be more important)
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would psychological tests be more important?
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
for people born with hermaphroditism there’s the question of which sex they perceive themselves as… it’s terribly important
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought you might have pulled that out of your ass, and were making a statement about females being crazy or something. My mistake.
by Chief Wahoo on Aug 20, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know how important that it for the purposes of athletics. It would be awful if she identified as female and understood herself to be female and it turns out she doesn’t “qualify” as female. But what are the rules? Are there rules?
I’m assuming something with androgen insensitivity would qualify as female though their DNA is male?
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
i think it would be important but that there would be no way to really make a ruling on it one way or another… this is of course assuming that there IS anything that would cast doubt about her sex
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s a woman on a massive amount of designer juice, thats why she has some manly characteristics shining through.
there’s supposedly more than that, if my understanding is correct
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If it were me, I might be tempted to wear my hair long, you know, just to dispel any rumors.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a female runner? Yeah, I can see where people would find her androgynous at best.
Well, I’ll do the same thing I do whenever something like this springs up and hope that if she’s found guilty it’s something deliberate not just a screw up of nature.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
To their credit, most of the officials involved seem to be taking the innocent-until-proven-guilty public posture while acknowledging that testing is underway.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a lot of friends from school who are very interested in gender issues and identity… otherwise i wouldn’t follow the story like i am… she does seem rather jacked though
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. It’s interesting. If it does turn out she’s intersex in some way, I’ll be interested to see what the ruling is for future competition, because it’s a tricky situation.
that’s exactly it… it’s a terribly fine line regarding an issue that until recently was never even publicly acknowledged
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
have you read about this male boxer who wants to get a sex change and be licensed to fight as a female?
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
was he a police officer at one point? it sounds familiar
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you. Bolt seems particularly susceptible.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it’s really hard not to think that he’s enhanced in some way.
but, enhanced or no, that is a really cool kind of fast he’s putting out there.
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
when we started trusting young arms and not retreads like aquino, herges, etc
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The retreads only came in after the Raffies, Smith, Wood, etc. had started to defecate the furniture.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Is this Gary Bell they’re talking about Ding Dong Bell of “Ball Four” fame?
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Apparently it is, as Ding Dong is from San Antonio, as is the fellow UnderManning was talking about.
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Just imagine how many more runs they’d have if Gimenez were playing instead of Marte!
by Logodaedalus on Aug 20, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone will do, but if it were one of those two I would be ecstatic.
by Chief Wahoo on Aug 20, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if it was mentioned in the last game thread, but RJ Swindle pitched again today. 1 2/3 innings, 1 hit, 1 unearned run, 2 walks (both to RH), 1 K
I’m fine with toying around with him in AAA, but, assuming he is promoted in September, I’d hope Wedge knows how to use him.
/shudders
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 20, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, i just did the wiki search… pretty risque for it’s time
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
From the summary, it sounds like it could be really interesting or really over the top.
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I’m into it , but I haven’t read very much yet. It may be over the top, but I wouldn’t say too far.
by Chief Wahoo on Aug 20, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, yes. Over the top can be pretty awesome if done correctly: Eastbound and Down.
by Chief Wahoo on Aug 20, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
YES… so glad there’s gonna be a second season
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s to hoping they don’t ruin it. I’m not sure it’s a sustainable show, but who knows?
by Chief Wahoo on Aug 20, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
jody hill said that wherever we think it’s gonna go it’s gonna do the opposite… which intrigues me… but i’m excited either way… especially if kenny powers decides to record another book on cassette
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i like to consider myself fairly well read, but in this case no
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So far, yes. It’s a play, by the way, it’s pretty crazy.
by Chief Wahoo on Aug 20, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he doing anything particularly egregious tonight, or is it just regular old Manning being Manning stuff?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXGC896Jdw
I love that scene and song so much. I’ve parodied it in my own stuff at least a few times. And I actually have that song on my iPod.
GOD GAVE ROCK AND ROLL TO YA! GAVE ROCK AND ROLL TO YA! GAVE ROCK AND ROLLLLLLLLL TO EVERYONE!
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hire Hershiser!
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by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 20, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
kinesthetic sense… we’d get sick of that really fast and it’s a hot topic for hersh
by gorilla_baller on Aug 20, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
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