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Around SBN: Nevin Shapiro Vows To Bring Down Miami

Game 120: Cleveland 11, Los Angeles 3

If tonight was a look at the future - and with Justin Masterson on the mound, an outfield of LaPorta, Sizemore and Choo, and Cabrera and Valbuena manning the middle of the infield, it sure looked like it - the future is looking a lot nicer than the present.  When the game's final pitch was thrown, an 86 mph slider from Rafael Perez breaking down and in on Robb Quinlan for strike three, the Indians had a solid 11-3 victory.

Justin Masterson was pitching for the first time unencumbered by a pitch or inning count.  A Valbuena error and Kelly Shoppach passed ball led to an unearned run in the first, but Masterson settled down solidly after that.  A Grady double and Choo single tied it up in the bottom of the first, and before long it started to look like it was a pitcher's duel.  Heading into the bottom of the 6th it was still a 1-1 game, with each team only managing 2 hits.  Masterson was wild, but effectively so, inducing a lot of groundballs and keeping the ball down.

In the bottom of the 6th the game changed.  Not surprisingly, Cabrera and Peralta got on base.  But in a rare turn, Hafner came through with an extra-base hit.  But the real fun came two batters later, when newly promoted LaPorta hit and 2-run double.  That was followed by an RBI hit from Marte, a single from Grady, and a 2-run double from Asdrubal.  Seven runs later the game was blown open.  An ill-advised decision by Wedge to leave Masterson in after two runners got on in the 7th gave Tony Sipp the opportunity to come in with the bases loaded and one out.  A strikeout and flyout later, he left 3 men waiting.  For a night, it was good times.

Next up: Huff vs. French, 7:05pm

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Highest WPA Lowest WPA
J. Masterson .247 A. Cabrera -.074
T. Hafner .144 L. Valbuena -.039
S. Choo .092 K. Shoppach -.038

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Good job boyfriends. My good vibes worked.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 20, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Look, I appreciate the sentiment, but I’m a taken man.

by Chemo on Aug 21, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

You wish.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 21, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should keep quiet, I wouldn’t want World Dictator to get jealous.

by Chemo on Aug 21, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

She’s too old for you anyway. Or so they say.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 21, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t you mean “she’s” too old for you anyway?

"You just gotta roll with the ounches." - Clemson58YearOldMan

by emd2k3 on Aug 21, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

See if I send you anymore Choo bobbleheads.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I added “so they say” because every time I make this age joke, my little Choo-bobble gives me a dirty look.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 21, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay. I guess I could send you some more. Maybe.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 21, 2009 4:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

See if you get any more homemade chocolate-covered pretzels in the mail.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 21, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saddest story ever. I left the rest of those at home when I went to school. I miss them.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 21, 2009 4:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Whoa. What do I have to do to get chocolate pretzels mailed to me?

by Chemo on Aug 21, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

get a bobble head that a fellow LGTer desires.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 21, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll accept Droobobbles and Super Sizemores. If you have a throwback Sandy Alomar, Jr., you’re also in the money.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 21, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always wanted a Charlie Manuel bobblehead. I wondered. however, it could possibly bobble more than the original

Stuart Dean
There is a great need for a sarcasm font

by stuart dean on Aug 21, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bah, he uhh, well I uhh I think he, well he threw a uh heckuva ballgame there. I mean, dang, he really buckled down there and threw that ball well. I mean, gee, you see the same ballgame I did? Whoo, I mean, just yeah, woo, heckuva game.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 21, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This was a fun recap to read. I guess this is the game this month that I’m sorry I missed.

by NickFantana on Aug 20, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

The nine in the lineup tonight is the way it should remain the rest of the season.

by col323 on Aug 21, 2009 12:06 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

this

Stuart Dean, shrubber

by stuart dean on Aug 21, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really liked the swing LaPorta put on that double. It wasn’t the pitch location he was looking for but he adjusted very nicely.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Aug 21, 2009 2:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I got a chance to see that AB and you’re right. Nice piece of hitting. I’m also liking Vilbuena more and more. He seems to hit the ball solidly on a fairly consistent basis.

"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)

by ChitownTribe on Aug 21, 2009 9:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A combination of lack of power by the Tribe and the number of ground ball pitchers we’re throwing out there, I suspect.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 21, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why park factors are based on three-year rolling averages, and also on how specific teams hit in different contexts. Obviously the Padres do almost half of all the hitting at Petco, etc.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 21, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah and if your park doesn’t yield many homers, [if you’re not an idiot] you’re gonna lean towards designing your team accordingly.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 21, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect that it’s a lot harder to tailor an offense to a ballpark than is generally assumed. I think it’s a little easier to tailor your defense.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 21, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, my inclusion of “lean towards” is because I see it as kinda over.

Also! GUTZ!

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 21, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

over-analyzed*

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 21, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

God I miss him

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 21, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I’m in the minority, but I don’t miss him that much. I’d rather have one of our lesser defenders who can hit in the OF, and Valbuena at second base.

by FredOx on Aug 21, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Smith hasn’t been terrible lately either.

by JK in CBus on Aug 21, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Choo helped facilitate the ability to let go of Franklin. I don’t picture Choo as our everyday leftfielder

by Roger Dorn on Aug 21, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lesser defenders who can hit
VALBUENA
What position do you play?

PERALTA
[Grins.] Shortstop!

This happens to be the #1 result on google, btw for “grins shortstop”

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 21, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I support the trade and miss Franklin Gutierrez’s defensive capabilities and occassional moon shots.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 22, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it took many analysts (and arguably the Rox FO) a little while to figure that out with respect to Coors Field. Tailoring your lineup based on the offensive effects is down the list, start with talent first.

by dgcambridge on Aug 21, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

where on the list is making sure you don’t have any superstars, but a bunch of garrett andersons 1-9?

by Brick. on Aug 21, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought GA was more of a superstar, but with the exception of four seasons or so, he’s pretty much standard issue. A career OPS+ of 104. Huh.

by odradek on Aug 22, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was overrated because of his underratedness.

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Aug 22, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s weird. He had a rep for being underrated, but he wasn’t underrated.

by odradek on Aug 22, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is yet another failure to internalize positional value in player valuation. Garret Anderson, as primarily a LF with a 104 OPS+, has been a below-average major league player over the course of his career.

For two years, 2002-2003, he was nicely above-average with a 127 OPS+. At a skill position, that would make him a real star. In left field, it makes him a star by misconception only.

How did you get “four seasons or so?” I can only guess you were looking at his RBI totals for 2000-2003. Again, for the first two of those years, he had a 104 OPS+, and again, that makes him below-average in those seasons. He was well below-average in six other seasons, including the present one.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 22, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was being generous. For whatever reason, I thought he was better than he, in fact, is. 2002 and 2003 were pretty good (56 doubles!) and 1995 was okay in limited playing time. He had five seasons of 20 or more home runs (not very good for a leftfielder). And it’s not because he kills the Indians: his career OPS against the Tribe is .781.

by odradek on Aug 22, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d agree except with regard to true aberrations. You can tailor a team to the Metrodome, or to the billion-dollar little league field in the Bronx. Of course, once you do that, you realize that you play 82 games on the road, and you’ve filled your lineup with bunters or guys that can hit really nice fly balls to RF.

by FredOx on Aug 21, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minnesota Twins

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 21, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine that every night, Padres go out and move their fences in six inches. If they do it slowly enough, nobody will ever notice.

by Chemo on Aug 21, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always kinda wondered what kind of stuff you could get away with with this philosophy.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 21, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Twins in the dome, turning on the fans when they bat and turning them off when the visitors bat, Or so it is said.

by odradek on Aug 22, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

That game was pure joy. One of the most enjoyable of the season.

by dgcambridge on Aug 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s nice to see our future on the field.

I didn’t read the game thread, but nobody’s even mentioned Masterson’s performance in the wrap up thread. He looked good, though I’d like to see him get those walks down.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 21, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight’s lineup:

INDIANS (52-68): CF Grady Sizemore, 2B Jamey Carroll, SS Asdrubal Cabrera, RF Shin-Soo Choo, 3B Jhonny Peralta, DH Kelly Shoppach, LF Matt LaPorta, C Wyatt Toregas, 1B Andy Marte. LHP David Huff (7-6, 6.55).

by APV on Aug 21, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

christ on a cracker, two days in a row of LaParte. the more i think about it, i don’t give a crap who catches.

by Brick. on Aug 21, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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