Jason Knapp to DL
Unfortunately this one is not a "Phelps to CWS" situation. Per Lastoria's Twitter feed, for now.
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It’s that dang rotated Z in his mechanics.
Everybody should get ice cream every day.
by junkballer on Aug 28, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t that just be a 2? of an S?
The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow
by gorilla_baller on Aug 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it’s the inverted O.
If you don't respect Aaron Laffey, I will fight you.
by Cap'n Snegiryov on Aug 28, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i’m guessing in this case inflammation is a less kind way of saying overuse… he young and the season is almost over… shut him down
The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow
by gorilla_baller on Aug 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this really “to the DL” or more just shutting him down?
by Jay on Aug 28, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard to say. Lastoria hasn’t updated anything and no one else has picked it up.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 28, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to kill the good vibes we had going.
by Roger Dorn on Aug 28, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So, Knapp Time?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Aug 28, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Alice Cooper: “Welcome to My Nightmare”
by odradek on Aug 28, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tony Lastoria said on the message board that Knapp will probably pitch in instructs, so it sounds like he’s just been shut down for the rest of the season.
by JP_Frost on Aug 28, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The plan is to call him up tomorrow to start Monday’s game. Sunday he flies to Birmingham, and he has surgery Monday. next week he’ll have another surgery to remove scar tissue.
by odradek on Aug 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then he’ll get called up again after that, right?
by Jay on Aug 29, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not already! Hope the more optimistic scenarios are what’s going on.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 28, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Evan’s got a lot of material to work with in the comments for this one.
Injured is good in Tribeland. Aaron Boone, Anthony Reyes, Carl Pavano (there’s more I’m forgetting about)…now this kid. The Statute of Triberty is inscribed, “Give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses of disabled and rehabbing…”
Triberty! TRIBERTY! “SpindianFevr” is my new muse.
by fleerdon on Aug 29, 2009 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I do wonder though whether an MRI was done before he came over. Haha I hope we weren’t basing his arm/shoulder health on a physical exam.
by supermarioelia on Aug 29, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you nervous about? Haven’t been any women in this thread in a few hours.
by Jay on Aug 29, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright enough. I’ve never even met you.
by supermarioelia on Aug 29, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Time to let this one go? Okay, you’ve tolerated it for quite a while now.
by Jay on Aug 29, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All that time Pavano spent on the DL here really killed our season.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
by USSChoo on Aug 29, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So… Lastoria says the MRI is bad, people are biting their fingernails, he will still throw in the fall, and no MRI was allowed during the trade.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 29, 2009 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2009/08/knapp-still-expected-to-pitch-this-fall.html
By the way
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 29, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An MRI wasn’t allowed? What the Pedroia?
by Ryan on Aug 29, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Trading for a guy with ongoing arm issues without any accompanying imaging? Maybe this is standard for pro sports, but this seems bizarre to me. And I mentioned it above, and I mention it monthly on here, but without proper imaging, the “physical” that team docs do is pointless.
by supermarioelia on Aug 29, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright I just had a nice dinner, and had a little more time to think about this.
It does make sense from a player perspective why MRIs aren’t allowed with prospective trades. From a medical ethics standpoint, a resource standpoint, a player rights standpoint….fine.
But here’s what really bothers me. Since all that is available are previous test results, what is to stop a team doc from not ordering an MRI when the decision to image or not is equivocal and the player is on the trading block? I’ve always felt that team doctors as paid employees of the team is quite the ethical snafu, and this really does hammer it home for me. To me, the physicians should be paid for and arranged by the league, and should operate in teams of physicians available on a rotating basis to organizations.
by supermarioelia on Aug 29, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t had dinner yet, and I already know what I think of this.
First thing is, it’s going to come out eventually that the Phillies performed an MRI on Knapp last month. I already have read one unconfirmed report on this, but beyond that, let’s just apply some common sense here. First, would the team physician really compromise the care of his patient, and the future value of an asset of potentially immense value, just on the off-chance that he might be traded? Why would the GM even be telling the trainer who’s on the block? Wouldn’t it be immensely dangerous, in terms of future liability, even to broach the topic of “maybe we don’t want too much information here,” even if only internally?
Second, if Knapp’s condition called for an MRI, why would the Indians or any club accept a player with arm soreness without some imaging to back it up? Remember, they get all the medical records for the player.
Third, no club wants to get a reputation for shipping off damaged goods in trades. It’s hard to imagine what could be more damaging to future trade prospects than even a whiff of suspicion as to whether a club had tried to pull a fast one in this regard.
by Jay on Aug 29, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Phillies did do an MRI, and I’d expect they did, then that imaging was available at the time of the trade since the Tribe asked for his “entire file” (according to Lastoria). Did the Indians doctors look at it? You would expect so, given that he was already injured. I’ll be interested in hearing what the Indians have to say but I’m still assuming he’s no worse off than when we traded for him and he’s being rested in prep for next season.
by MTF on Aug 31, 2009 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they looked at it. They look at everything.
by Jay on Aug 31, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, if the Indians had received him and said, we’re going to leave him shut down until fall, I doubt anyone would have commented other than, “Yeah, 18-year-old pitchers, /shrug.” As far as I’m concerned, that’s all that happened here.
by fleerdon on Aug 30, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. I guess I’d be more upset had I assigned any particular importance to an 18-year-old fireballer in the first place.
by Jay on Aug 30, 2009 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes but it is the Indians themselves that have “assigned particular importance to an 18-year-old fireballer”…
There is a great need for a sarcasm font
by stuart dean on Aug 30, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe that haven’t. Beyond public relations statements. Sure, there’s the Hafner scenario here, where the Indians checked him out, and thought it was sound.
Or maybe Knapp has been the throw-in all along, a broken prospect – closer to the current Adam Miller than even the current Trey Haley. I mean, a 18 year old with a sore shoulder. Maybe he should be ranked below crappy Jackson and old, far away Bryson, because he was far away and broken. We take on lottery tickets all the time, its no big deal, but we should probably stop saying that we got 4 prospects. It wasn’t an 18 year old fireballer, it was an 18 year old fireballer with a known bum shoulder.
by dgcambridge on Aug 30, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
An 18 year old fireballer with a known bum shoulder.
A will-o’-the-wisp. Five years before his injury nexus. There’s no way this is something minor or trivial.
by odradek on Aug 30, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Four years until the end of it. Generally speaking, it ends on the 23rd birthday, and Knapp turns 19 tomorrow.
Like I said, I can’t assign any particular importance to this one guy. I see him as one piece of a larger effort to acquire eight guys like this, in the hopes that just one of them can be an ace by 2014. It’s a war against attrition.
by Jay on Aug 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think focusing on Knapp publicly was more palatable than saying, “We’re buying low on three Triple-A guys.” Marson was the least blemished of the three, and he’s a tough sell to a fanbase that’s accustomed to getting 20+ home runs out of the catcher position.
by Jay on Aug 30, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kyle Drabek was also shut down for the remainder of the season.
by Roger Dorn on Sep 1, 2009 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And yet Carrasco makes his big-league debut tonight.
“Your conventional wisdom sure is nice … FOR ME TO POOP ON!”
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s pretty much exactly how I feel.
by Roger Dorn on Sep 1, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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