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Indians acquire Yohan Pino to complete Pavano deal

0803pino_mediumThe AP is reporting that the Twins have sent RHP Yohan Pino to the Indians, as the player to be named in the Carl Pavano deal.  Pino, who turns 26 in December, has split the year between Double-A and Triple-A, and also between the rotation and the bullpen.  His cumulative numbers on the year are 3.03 ERA, 8.6 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, and 1.11 WHIP.  He reportedly will join the Columbus rotation this weekend.

Pino has always been a Fausto-like enigma, only for the opposite reason:  He's struck out a ton of guys without tremendous stuff, evidently succeeding with deception and excellent command.  He was threatening to enter the Twins Top 10 list after the 2007 season, largely on the strength of a July no-hitter in High-A, but he struggled to adjust to Double-A in 2008.  He was featured just eight days ago in this brief report by Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus:

Sleeper Alert!

Pino earned some attention when he was first coming up after putting up sub-two ERAs at both Low- and Hi-A, but scouts wondered if his combination of outstanding command and sub-par stuff would play at the upper levels. Those concerns turned out to be legitimate, as Pino struggled at Double-A for two years while also dealing with the occasional injury, but he's beginning to put together his first impressive run at the upper levels. Scouts don't see him as much more than a workhorse type of middle reliever, but at least things are moving in the right direction.

Pino has never been on the 40-man roster, but he'll need to be added in November in order to avoid exposing him to the Rule 5 draft.  Given his modicum of youth, effectiveness, and versatility, he seems like a fairly likely selection if left unprotected.

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So, old but not completely terrible. He’ll get a September look, wouldn’t you think?

by MTF on Aug 28, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish I was an old 25.

by DixonCayne on Aug 28, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A guy who throws like that might conceivably be able to pitch longer into his career if he’s effective.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 28, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh wow, that sounds like a person who’s grasping at straws.

Everybody should get ice cream every day.

by junkballer on Aug 28, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And your point is?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 28, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not much, but more than we expected, right?

by still ill on Aug 28, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’d say so. As a deep-depth starter for 2010, you could do worse. Come to think of it, I’m not sure why the Twins wouldn’t want him for that same purpose, but I guess they wanted Pavano more.

by Jay on Aug 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed on all fronts. Someone get him the Slocum/Stanford jersey.

by APV on Aug 29, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 2009, a flier on Pino is worth more than seeing Pavano make 8 to 9 starts.

In 2010, Pino making a spot start here or there prevents you from doing things like giving starts to Tomo Ohka, Livan Hernandez, or Sindey Ponson.

by xrickx on Aug 28, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Though he may not actually be any better than those guys.

by Jay on Aug 28, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct. But the idea is that he stands a chance, however slight, to be something more than Ohka. While Ohka is, at most, Ohka.

by xrickx on Aug 28, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just noticed your icon. My favorite new line, “He can speak French, in Russian.”

by xrickx on Aug 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always knew Jay was the most interesting man in the world.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 28, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda miss ol’ Sobchak though…

There is a great need for a sarcasm font

by stuart dean on Aug 29, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Second that – a freaking classic!

There is a great need for a sarcasm font

by stuart dean on Aug 29, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

guess it didn’t neeed the fanshot, i wish google reader was instantaneous

by returner3 on Aug 28, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MLB Trade Rumors does not ever need to be linked, except maybe for Elias rankings.

by Jay on Aug 28, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which, of course, aren’t MLBTR’s original work either. Luckily, when you link the rankings themselves, it’s a link to Scribd.

by FredOx on Aug 28, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gather the Elias reverse-engineering was contributed to MLBTR or commissioned by them, or something. Credit where due, they had something to do with it. And nothing else of value.

by Jay on Aug 29, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eddie at Detroit Tigers Thoughts did them, posted them on his own site for a while, then decided to provide them to Dierkes. MLBTR didn’t come up with the idea, do the work or have any input whatsoever that I can see. Comments on Eddie’s blog suggest that they wrote a check. Credit, but only a tiny, tiny amount.

by FredOx on Aug 29, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

some info on his repertoire:

http://twins.scout.com/2/845132.html

Basically a righthanded version of Scott Lewis.

by JP_Frost on Aug 28, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Basically a righthanded version of Scott Lewis.

That’s what I thought looking at his numbers

by APV on Aug 29, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hoynes reported that we received “Johan Pino” and that Pino is 23 years old.

by elsandito on Aug 28, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It does look like there are two different DOB’s out there, one ‘85 and one ’83. He must have seen the one that said ’85. Jay’s link above does show the one that says ’85.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Aug 28, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I checked this out and fangraphs said ‘85, but most other sites have him at ’83. I’ll go with the majority on this.

by JP_Frost on Aug 28, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did the same – although I was hoping for ‘85, I’m sure the answer is ’83.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Aug 28, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IndiansInsider says he is 25. I’m sure they would have it right.

by JRontherim on Aug 28, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and baseball-reference and milb say the same thing as well. The kid was born in ’83.

by JP_Frost on Aug 28, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

“My link” is actually the SBN auto-link.

I noticed the discrepancy, but Indians PR says he’s 25, so that’s what I’m going with.

by Jay on Aug 28, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep. Wasn’t trying to be a smart-ass nit-pick, just hoping we picked up a couple of years.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Aug 28, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s cool, I wasn’t annoyed, I just wanted to clarify.

by Jay on Aug 28, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Twins have a reliever named Shooter Hunt in their system and we didn’t get him. I’m starting to wonder where the Indians priorities are.

by Toxicadam on Aug 28, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Deception, huh? Wasn’t that Paul Byrd’s game? That worked out okay for us.

by ShawnK on Aug 28, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s so odd that they’re already promoting Super Bowl 51.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 29, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Novelty prospect!

by fleerdon on Aug 29, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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