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Game Thread 2: August 4, 2009


Indians down 9-0 in the 7th.  When do we face Seattle again? (Now with a literary bonus!)

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This is the great comeback thread.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s going to be spectacular! It just might take a few games to work up to it.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be here

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still there, right? Because they’re gearing up. Oh yeah.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m done after the next Marte atbat.

by supermarioelia on Aug 4, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

i think i’m living here, too

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Jess Todd

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow ump, c’mon. Baker got that pitch all night.

by supermarioelia on Aug 4, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Regarding the conversation from the previous thread about the offseason.

I think we’re much more likely to see Shapiro get “creative” in the trade market than free agency. If you believe he’s looking to make a meaningful addition for 2010, and possibly beyond.

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Aug 4, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

NOT ONE RUN?!

FIRE COLD STONE.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait. I thought you were bringing some here.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would have been a little bit melty by the time we reached your locale. :(

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you get cake batter?

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides, I got a Cream De Menthe. You would not have approved.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My god. You have no ice cream shame.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m often not much of an ice cream fan. But if that was caramel instead of peanut butter…you could probably count me in

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a fool for ice cream.

Oh, who am I fooling? I’m a fool.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I pretty much dislike ice cream and hate chocolate in general, but that Cotton Candy at Cold Stone is pretty good.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

cotton candy is nasty

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Real cotton candy is good. Cotton candy flavored ice cream is officially GROSS.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just sitting here wondering exactly how that worked. Wouldn’t ice cream that dissolves in your mouth be kind of awesome?

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it did that, then it would be awesome. Instead it just… you know how the flavor of red popsicles is “red”? The flavor of cotton candy ice cream is “pink.”

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it? I seem to remember it being blue. What the hell am I thinking of?

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might be blue! But it tastes pink.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

eww, that sounds gross.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just popping in to say…

flag

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well you are what I call a jerk.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have reverse taste. You’re in no position to criticize.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m an ice cream enthusiast. just stocked up on some half baked this afternoon…very excited for dessert this evening (west coaster)

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nine straight scoreless innings from Chris Perez. STUD.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

11 K/3 BB during said span.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woot.

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a drive.

And I’m out. See ya tomorrow people.

by supermarioelia on Aug 4, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Zoned out for a bit playing bookworm adventures. Still no runs. :(

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Gawd, I thought that said “hookworm adventures” and I was seriously disturbed by you.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

 8O

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nooo! Bookworm adventures! You spell words to fight literary figures. I beat up Hamlet. It was good times.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my defense, I was reading an article earlier today about using hookworm to fight auto-immune disorders.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is somewhat defensible, then.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

there’s respectable research that says we’d all be a little better off if we just had a few more parasites as kids (mild exposures, mind you)

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good for you. Shakespeare should have had somebody slap Hamlet around. “Snap out of it, son! Grow a pair! Make a decision!”

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only paper I ever failed in high school was my paper on Hamlet.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Chizl hits an RBI double, 4-5 with 5 rbi

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

JESUS ACTUAL CHRIST, JOE. I know you’re trying to impress me, but do it when you’re not playing my team.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

How can you long for Mauer when LL Cool T is on the mound?

Ladies Love Cool Tomo.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That went without saying, of course.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

How? You can’t even see his legs!

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He looks so ruggedly hungover, though.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

REMAKE THE HANGOVER STARRING THE INDIANS. Ohka is Dr. Ken.

Let’s do it.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The baby is Jamey Carroll.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

jhonny is the tiger, obviously

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fausto is Mike Tyson for obvious reasons.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohka seems like he may run in a wolfpack of one

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

am I the only one who thought The Hangover kind of sucked?

It got off to a great start, but then it just kind of dragged, and then they stashed all the funny stuff right at the end…

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was amusing … but not the laugh-riot everyone made it out to be.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off hand has there been a better comedy this year?

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

not off the top of my head. i haven’t seen bruno, though

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year? Probably not …

Although I do want to see the Jason Bateman “Office Space” type flick … that could be a sleeper for me.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is true, I forgot that comes out this year. Kunis, Bateman and Affleck. I like that trio.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kunis is … well, maturing nicely, shall we say.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is one beautiful woman. There is a teaser trailer out for a movie she’s in with Denzel, I haven’t gotten around to watching it yet.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just did a quick scan of the top 50-60 grossing movies this year. The Hangover was by far the best of the comedies (I didn’t see Bruno, but I skipped it on purpose)

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the set-up was really good, and “the day after” got off to a good start, but then….it just dragged. It wasn’t funny, it wasn’t interesting.

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That seems about right … although I do have a soft spot for Ed Helms, so that is likely coloring my perception of it.

I didn’t hate it … but it was far from the slam dunk everyone was making it out to be.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t hate it either…but it’s probably not a movie two years from now that if I catch it on TBS I’ll stick around and watch it

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Once around the block was enough.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i saw ed helms, sarah silverman, one of the other guys who’s on the office every once in a while (holly’s new boyfriend, specifically), and a bunch of others at dinner in hollywood the other night.

so, basically, we’re best friends.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tim Laker would be more exciting.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the night I had dinner with Jeff Garcia and Dennis Rodman in Vegas.

Although one of the two actually spoke to me.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m actually going to guess Rodman.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice guess, but sadly wrong.

This was the off-season when Garcia signed with the Browns … he was actually kind of a nice guy …

Rodman’s bodyguard just grunted at me as I went to the restroom.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he look like a rat and smell like a rat?

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn. I figured it’d be the opposite effect. The guy with a little fame (Garcia) lets it go to his head, while the legitimately famous guy is laid back and doesn’t care.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No .. it was a shame.

My group walked in right before Garcia, and when we said hello as Browns fans … I think he got a little scared.

Then after we were all seated, he actually got up from his table and came over and talked to us.

Really made me want to root for him … until he stared whining in Cleveland.

by FallsTribeFan on Aug 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love the image (maybe i’ve trumped it up in my mind) of carmella garcia executing a “kill bill” style swinging roundhouse kick to the face of jeff’s old girlfriend at a club in cleveland (i always picture it as the funky buddha).

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in a scene with Lauren Graham once.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you live in that area? I’ve got friends at Hollywood and Western

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m in santa monica, but was out at the laserium (awesome name, not as awesome presentation) in h’wood for a show, and grabbed dinner on sunset

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahh…spent New Year’s out there. It was a blast.

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s pretty clean living out here. easier weather to get used to than shaker heights.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s pretty clean living out here. easier weather to get used to than shaker heights.

ugh

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought it was pretty funny…the slideshow at the end was definitely the funniest part, though. that is true.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see it because I heard a few things about that that made me think I probably wouldn’t have found it funny anyway.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not saying anything about anyone in our FO here, but I was getting a bit depressed on the way to Cold Stone hearing Hamilton rhapsodizing how lucky Minnesota will be to keep their awesome future free agents. Bah.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until they realize that the new stadium has no roof. In Minnesota. In April.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. >:)

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vichan and I were talking about how immensely stupid a decision that was.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, after April 30, the Twins will either have no off days remaining thanks to a ton of re-scheduling, or an amazing amount of doubleheaders.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know teams hate doubleheaders, but I love them.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too… as long as they’re back to back. settle in for six hours of baseball. good stuff. The whole 1:00 and 7:00 doubleheader is annoying though.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, what is that shit? aside from stupid, of course

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Julie’s Cat Update: Evil cat is still 100% evil.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I’M HERE! and in Clemson! But my MLB.TV is not working. Is this happeneing to anyone else?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

mine’s working fine….

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It started working for a second.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m almost wishing my radio wasn’t working.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hola!

I’d like to say my STO isn’t working, but it is.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okhay, Jhonny. You have them where you want them!

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Jhonny!

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

ALMOST HOME RUN!

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Almhost.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked Love in the Time of Cholera okay, but I was literally sobbing at the end of 100 Years. Like, your childhood dog just died grade sobbing.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teasy!

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

We’re like a Grand Slam and a 3/4 away from being teasy.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

- a

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

YAY NOT SHUTOUT

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

no shutout! woo-hoo!

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Left my camera with my friend Amy at the wedding we were attending last weekend. Just editing the photos.

They’re all of Amy.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

See if I had been here all along we would have been fine. Sorry yall.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

You are not pulling your weight.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drove 7 hours today. Through torrential rain in the mountains. I’ve had a rough day.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I drove 7 hours on Saturday, partially in the rain. Once you hit the 3 hour mark, driving stops being fun.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like driving so it never stopped being fun.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like driving, so it never started being fun.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hear ye, hear him.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

shouldn’t you be on some orientation trip, or something?

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s tomorrow. And we stay on campus.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

orientation week was always one of my favorite time periods in college

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Suddenly the count is 3-0.”

He has a slightly different definition of “sudden” than I do.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Suddenly in the sense of “I just remembered I’m supposed to be paying attention.”

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

“And that pitch was so far off the plate, the umpire has decided to charge the pitcher with three balls at once.”

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this rule.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO PULL HIM, MADDON

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Beat me to it.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

G’mon, Lord Gim. You’re on trial here.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Micro Lad walk!

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joseph Conrad? Anybody?

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heart of Dorkness.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

NOOOOOO do NOT mention that book

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was supposed to read that book for three separate classes and I don’t think I got all the way through it even once.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I made it through. The only novel I ever blatantly ignored in school was Wuthering Heights.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to read that one too. That’s the one with the huge family tree thing, right?

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erm, don’t believe so. Just a tortured, tortured romance and a big creepy house.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though there are a lot of shitty family tree novels.

“100 Years of Solitude,” not a shitty family tree novel.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia Márquez, I guess you’re supposed to say.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I’ve read Love in the Time of Cholera three times.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I enjoy him, though nothing so much as “100 Years.” I was sobbing at the end. Like, “your childhood dog just died” -grade sobbing.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm yeah with like a fence or something with stuff on the top of it? HATED AP English.

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand, if I hadn’t read it, this wouldn’t be nearly as funny.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure if there is a hell and I go to it, the first thing I will have to do is read all the books I was supposed to read in school.

I am pretty sure my advisor for high school english had me read Wuthering Heights and I wrote an essay about how much I hated it.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure if there is a hell and I go to it, the first thing I will have to do is read all the books I was supposed to read in school.

Yeah, I seem to recall 10th/11th grade English as being particularly godawful in that respect.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s because they usually stick juniors with American lit, which, I’m sorry to say, kind of blows. There’s some good stuff in the 1900s, but if you still care after Hawthorne and Melville, more power to you.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, you have to do some looking for great american lit…but i really enjoy poe, like emerson, uncle tom’s cabin was great, love whitman…and slightly different, but contemporaneous, the frederick douglass autobio is unstoppable.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i disagree…19th century american lit isn’t super (there are definitely better canons), but there is good stuff there

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you saying 19th century American lit blows? That’s nuts. Irving, Poe, Twain, Norris, James, Howell, London. Great stuff.

by odradek on Aug 4, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i put down moby dick pretty quickly, myself. i did make it through wuthering heights, though, although i hated every page.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think A Tale Of Two Cities was the only book in high school I simply couldn’t make myself finish (I made it about 50 pages). Only time I ever used a Cliffs Notes book instead.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. I was a freshman.

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is my favorite book I have ever HAD to read. Except for maybe The Great Gatsby.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be 1984 for me. Nothing else even close.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as HS goes, fahrenheit 451.

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

gatsby made me really love reading fiction.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the things I’ve discovered and loved because I had to read them were poems, not books.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gots both. I had to read The Faerie Queene, the Iliad, the Odyssey and loved them.

On the other hand, I had to read Paradise Lost and the Aeneid and wasn’t taken by them.

On the other, other hand, I had to read The Divine Comedy and frankly I don’t remember it.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i tried to read the divine comedy of my own volition…i didn’t make it.

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember thinking Paradise Lost was pretty cool.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once you read Chaucer or Spenser, Milton is damned dry.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found Paradise Lost really interesting, but possibly because I read it after I’d spent a few years pretending I was going to grow up to be a classicist.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You, too?

I spent a long time claiming that my life’s goal was to do a translation of the Iliad.

It’s good to know my life still has a goal.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was a Classical Greek language major for about three years, and then I got really sick and dropped out and eventually resurrected as an English major.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neat!

I read too much Dorothy Sayers and was convinced classicists walked around dropping Latin phrases randomly into conversation. I wanted to BE THAT PERSON. It was SO COOL.

I’m dorky now, but I was in a whole other class of dorky then.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bff was like IS IT LIKE THE SECRET HISTORY and I laughed at her a whole bunch.

i went around my classicism totally backwards too, since I started with Greek and then went to Latin and LATIN WAS SO MUCH EASIER and then I cried.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha! I went from Latin to Greek and felt like I had come home. Latin was fine, but Greek was gorgeous.

I don’t remember any of it, now. I seem to lose my languages the instant I stop taking tests.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember more of my Latin than of my Greek, but that really wasn’t hard. Greek was awesome at first, but the complete lack of regularity of figuring out aorist stems and such drove me up a wall. Not to mention the “does this reduplicate in this mood or not?” factor. Ergh.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once you read Chaucer or Spenser, Milton is damned dry.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s quotable as, well, hell, but I agree with Julie that it’s a bit of a slog.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can make it through the first 100 pages or so, it’s fantastic. All the threads come together. It’s worth the effort.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s pretty great, but I’m a Great Expectations guy.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

HATE this book.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a spectacular book, but I’m very much an advocate of people reading what appeals to them, not what appeals to ME.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course they should. But that book made me want to die. i would hate to force that on anyone else.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surprisingly, I’ve never managed to make it very far into Great Expectations.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s awful. Don’t. Obviously you will get different opinions but there is one good part in that book and you should really just watch the movie or the Wishbone version to see that.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least the movie has Gwyneth Paltrow.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the one I saw.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s less prose-y than the other Dickens, more character-y. (These are words.) If you don’t dig on the characters, it probably doesn’t do anything for you.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this mean if you think Pip can just stop talking and what’s her face can just go away you won’t like it? Beause that’s how I feel.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, your favorite band sucks.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s my favorite band?

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damned if I know. We’re clearly disagreeing on a matter of taste, that’s all.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously. I just didn’t lke it. Do you like the Great Gatsby? Because then we could agree on something.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAISY DAISY DAISY DAISY

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me your answer, do.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good day, gentlemen. This is a prerecorded briefing made prior to your departure and which for security reasons of the highest importance has been known on board during the mission only by your H-A-L 9000 computer. Now that you are in Jupiter’s space and the entire crew is revived it can be told to you. Eighteen months ago the first evidence of intelligent life off the Earth was discovered. It was buried 40 feet below the lunar surface near the crater Tycho. Except for a single very powerful radio emission aimed at Jupiter the four-million year old black monolith has remained completely inert. Its origin and purpose are still a total mystery.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like her. I like the writing and the symbolism.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved Gatsby, but everybody does. It’s a teenage soap opera masquerading as literature. Dude loves the head cheerleader, who’s going steady with the class jock, so he starts throwing these KILLER parties he can’t afford to impress her.

That last chapter, though. Hoo baby.

You want some Fitzgerald to chew on, I recommend This Side of Paradise. It’s so indulgent. My favorite thing I read when I was 20.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have that with me this year to read! I was going to read it last year but I left it under my bed at home.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just have to remember that FSF was like, 21 when he started working on it. It’s cocky as all get-out.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

but that’s true with a lot of the early 20th century American stuff…much of it is best read after one drink and starting the second, with a decidedly cocksure attitude

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true. that whole group of 1920’s writers were ridiculously cocky.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is just making me remember that time an in-class assignment was “Today we are writing a Hemingway parody!”

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

hopefully everyone was over 21

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

“The day before his foot had been chewed off by ants. He had been drinking rum. He suspected some of it was on his foot, and that attracted the ants. Damn, it was hot.”

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Three day blow” is probably still my favorite short story of all time

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And everyone does not like The Great Gatsby. Most people in my class hated it. My friend and I were the only two to really like it. I wrote my AP essay on it.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most people in high school hate everything they have to read.

Honestly, most people in college do too.

It’s just the way of these things.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well most of them liked the other things like Great expectations. I was in the honors class so we all kind of liked school and were complete nerds.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the kids in my AP class hated just about everything we had to read, too. Then again, we had a crazy person for a teacher who was like “I have to teach you two epics this year! One will be Beowulf, and the other is going to be The Silmarillion :D? :D?”

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Simarillion? That is the strangest thng I ahve ever heard anyone read in high school. I also don’t like Beowulf. my insane english teacher loved it though so we all pretended we liked it.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

we had to do video remakes of Beowulf. My group, which was far from stellar, set ours to the theme song from Cheers.

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where everybody knows that Grendel’s Mom is one bad bitch.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did a little chapter on Norse mythology that resulted in re-enacting Ragnarok with beanie babies.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a potential youtube smash hit.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beowulf huuuugely depends on the translation you get. The one we had in our text was awesome, but aforementioned crazy teacher was hanging onto texts from the 1960s that weren’t allowed to leave the classroom because she was so in love with that particular translation.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we read an excerpt from the translation by that Seamus person who’s last name escapes me and it was like a completely different book. i may have somewhat enjoyed it had I read that one.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seamus Heaney the Irish poet. His Beowulf is the best.

by odradek on Aug 4, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahaa. Holy god.

All-time greatest high school English memory: having Miniver Cheevy read to us by a substitute teacher whose voice was indistinguishable with that of Marvin The Martian. There were many of us who damn near started laughing aloud.

The only thing that could have improved the experience was if the teacher then added a “hmm, isn’t that lovely?” at the end. I think we would have all been sent to the office from the gales of laughter that would have resulted.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beowulf is like testosterone in print. Unrepentantly awesome.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

for me, this is the Iliad

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beowulf was awesome. The Silmarillion was less awesome.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

by the way, the Game Thread has been updated appropriately

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah all the boys loved it. The girls hated it.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beowulf also forever will be entwined with the same crazy teacher taking us to a Renaissance Fair for a day, and we all saw a version of Beowulf enacted by a comedy troupe, and it eventually degraded into hilarious mud wrestling. There was a fun little Grendel song Grendel’s mom goaded us into singing.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

We read a poem called Beowoof about a dog or a cat. That is all. We tried to convince her to take us to the beowulf movie even though we were all aware it sucked but she wouldn’t let us.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, in case all of you literary buffs care, we do have a game recap up

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see the game. I feel like I won’t have mudch to say on the game recap.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Name me another piece of literature in which the removal of limbs is so prominently featured.

And no, “The Sun Also Rises” doesn’t count.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Star Wars novelizations!

/touchdown dance

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dish, and the basket.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most of the kids in my AP class hated just about everything we had to read, too.

yeah, probably 2/3 of my class was on the hate side.

More than 3/4 were on that side for the teacher though.

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the stuff I had to read in college was much better, because my prof was awesome.

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but people in my classes seemed to have about an equal amount of dislike. Perhaps my judgment here is skewed by the fact that I was a writing tutor and heard a lot of chatter about how much the kids I was tutoring hated the books they were reading.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, idk. My class was really small though, so only like 2 people really disliked the stuff.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we had like 12 people in a class. 24 total in the honors english program. We all got really close and knew what everyone liked and didn’t like.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

my favorite english classes in college (and I was in an english major) were 20th century american novels and Joyce

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing was general all over Cleveland.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m looking forward to Brit Lit this year. Then I won’t need any other English casses and probably won’t have time for any which is sad.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dubliners is sheer genius. Never been able to make it very far in a Joyce novel.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ulysses definitely requires some assistance (but is great). Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man is worth a look, though.

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tender is the Night is also fantastic

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s on the to-do list.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you liked Daisy, Nicole Driver will kill you. In a lame comparison, it has a lot of Mad Men in it.

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s go ahead and assume it’s the other way around.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, of course. but from our perspective, looking backwards…

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, yes.

/mixes cocktail

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny, i actually picked up cities in the past 2 years…i think i made it 10 or 12 pages past where i quit on it in high school

by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 4, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Dickens. And Hardy. Long-winded Victorian novelists bring me joy. :D

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mayor of Casterbridge for the win, but Hardy’s actually my favorite poet.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Far from the Madding Crowd.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big fan of both Dickens and Trollope.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read my first Trollope a few months ago. Loved it. It was perfect.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the Barsetshire series much better than the Palliser novels, though both series were very good. The Way We Live Now is just brilliant.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adding it to my list. Wait, it’s already on there.

Of course, I have 604 books on my to-read list. Yipes.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually kept a reading list that my high school American Lit teacher gave me back in 1981 listing books that a well-read person should have read. 15 or so years later, I posted it to the web for the hell of it.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

This list had A Doll’s House on it and I remember how much I loved that play. It also has a lot of things on it I have never heard of.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reminding me to read things McCullers has written other than The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and here’s where I admit that I went on to get an MA in English Literature with an emphasis in 18thC Brit Lit.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

18th century….that is kind of brutal stuff

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

His license should be revoked for not including Nathaneal West.

by odradek on Aug 4, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good call. I think I hated EVERY character in that book. I wanted them all to get lost on the moors.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m loving this sub-thread.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. I liked the end but I really wanted them all to go away.

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by ClemsonGirl on Aug 4, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was the only thing I didn’t read at all in my Modern British Novel course in college.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Heart of Darkness….I’ve twice read it on plane trips

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m a big fan of Conrad.

Now Absalom, Absalom, on the other hand, nearly kilt me.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh…you are hurting me now. Absalom, Absalom is one of my favorite all-time books.

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I won’t judge you.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you here. Not on Woodsmeister’s teacher’s list. Nor is Connecticut Yankee.

by odradek on Aug 4, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ballgame.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

That was quick

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Unsurprising, but still sad.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Draft position, Ang. Draft position.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooh. That’s right. How quickly I forget.

by AngG on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

They coulda scored a few more there…. Would that have killed them?

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I GOT FRASH TARS AND AH’M REDDY TA TRAYDE SUM PAYNT

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

DALE THE 3RD?!

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That reminds me, for those who were laughing at my description of the accent around here:

I was dealing with a guy named Amir on the phone. I put him on hold to ask production a question and coworker Chris said, “Who’s asking?” “Amir.” “You mean like those glass things you check your hair in?”

And yes, they do sound identical. :D

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew a kid named Amir like 10 years ago.

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

UGH

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by westbrook on Aug 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gawd. ENOUGH ABOUT MAUER AND MORNEAU, HAMILTON.

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by vbc3 on Aug 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

If someone refers to pizza as “za”, is that grounds for ending the friendship?

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe it’s grounds for killing him and hiding his body in the moor.

by Julie on Aug 4, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see we have slightly different takes on the seriousness of this.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you get to assign them an embarrassing avatar.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 4, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No (depending on the level of friendship), but its grounds for spontaneously slapping them in the head (depending on your level of friendship).

by APV on Aug 4, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I’ll settle on this. Because it is quite unacceptable.

by JRontherim on Aug 4, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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