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Around SBN: Newcastle Battle Injury Woes Ahead of Tottenham

Game 107: Indians 8, Twins 1


The season to this point has been a bit of a waste for Aaron Laffey. For the second straight season, he lost a battle for a rotation spot, so he started the season in AAA, only to get called up after Scott Lewis got hurt. After making four starts, he got shunted to the bullpen because he was supposedly good at warming up quickly. Then, in his sixth appearance out of the bullpen, he got hurt, and spent six weeks on the Disabled List. While he was on the shelf, the Indians saw that they didn't have five starters better than Aaron Laffey, so he was put back in the rotation when he was activated.

You would hope tonight's start would finally put to rest the annoying suggestion that Laffey belongs in the bullpen. Aaron went eight innings on 112 pitches, and even struck out five. He's been able to get hitters out the third and fourth time through the order, a step up from some pitchers currently in the rotation.

Trevor Crowe took another step towards being next year's fourth outfielder, getting on base another three times tonight. He hit ninth, which gave the Indians a nice run of base runners the second time through the order onward. Grady Sizemore and Asdrubal Cabrera both collected three hits, which helped to compensate for what looked like a rather thin lineup (Chris Gimenez and Jamey Carroll were the 5-6 hitters, for goodness sakes).

Next Up: Carmona vs. Blackburn, 12:05 PM

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via www.fangraphs.com

 

Highest WPA Lowest WPA
Aaron Laffey .251 Jhonny Peralta -.077
Trevor Crowe .104 Chris Gimenez -.059
Grady Sizemore .094 Shin-Soo Choo -.016

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Also! Jess Todd had another solid outing, k’ing 1 and facing a mere 4 batters in the ninth.

by joeee on Aug 5, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Did he pitch before this?

by Roger Dorn on Aug 5, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No – good catch. I watched the 9th inning with mute on – I thought it was his debut in the Cleve (Giminez saved the last out ball for him). Then I checked his fangraphs stats and read them wrong – saw 4 ip in AAA. So change “another” to “first in Cleve.”

by joeee on Aug 5, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Scott Lewis, was it noted that he made a rehab start in the Arizona league? 3 innings, 1 hit, 0 walks, 5 K (2 unearned runs, though he did serve up a HR)

by JRontherim on Aug 5, 2009 11:48 PM EDT reply actions  

first I’ve heard of this.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 6, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

How did Westbrook do last night?

by ahowie on Aug 5, 2009 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

2 ER in 2 IP. He gave up a 2 run HR in the first.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Aug 6, 2009 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m wondering how much the WP on the strikeout unnerved him. The next two batters were HR, 2B.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking zero.

by Brick. on Aug 6, 2009 9:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Playoff-experienced pitchers don't get unnerved about WPs against AA ballclubs.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 6, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t give up homers and doubles like that either. I want to make excuses for Jake because I want him to be good right away.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 6:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He was working on his gopherball, that’s all.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 6, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except Mark Wohlers, who got unnerved by everything.

by Joel D on Aug 7, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, Laffey is our 2010 opening day pitcher? That seems weird.

by Toxicadam on Aug 6, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Sort of a two-month open audition for that, but it’s Westbrook’s gig to lose I would say.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 6, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe Shapiro said the opening day starter would be Westbrook if healthy

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Aug 6, 2009 4:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or Fausto, if he can come close to returning to his ’07 form.

-Kyle

by Kyle Garret on Aug 6, 2009 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not according to Shapiro, but we’ll see.

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Aug 6, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  


Not a reliever?

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 6, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

pause……… Thank you.

by gte619n on Aug 6, 2009 7:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don’t quote this movie anywhere near enough.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 6, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or my name isn’t Dr. Emil Schuffhausen …the Third.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 6, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

May I take your trident sir?

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 6, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’ll enjoy Oklahoma’s wide open spaces. He loves to run and run and run.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 6, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

What movie is this? Sorry if this is a stupid question.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Aug 6, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, which in fairness to you is older than you are.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recommend it. It’s a classic.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 6, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say it’s got 20 minutes of gold right in the middle, surrounded by an hour of mediocre comedy plot. A bit of a missed opportunity.

by dgcambridge on Aug 6, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The gold in the middle is more than 20 minutes I think. Pretty much from Ruprecht on through where Freddie winds up with hand superglued to the wall.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 6, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever its faults, it’s still a classic.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 6, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not that quotable. A lot of the humor is physical.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 6, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you go.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 6, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, what in the hell could Glenne Headly possibly think he’s doing there if not ignoring excruciating pain? Whatever. It’s funny.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 6, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree to disagree. There’s plenty of quote-ables in there. But the physical humor certainly ruled the day. It’s Steve Martin, of course there was lots of great physical humor.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 7, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just saw Todd’s inning, and he looked good. Good sinking fastball, and the slider was very deceptive. He reminds me of Brendan Donnelly (back when he was good with the Angels) — same sort of stuff and violent delivery.

I like.

by JP_Frost on Aug 6, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that sinker is really a cutter. Good slider though, I agree.

by TribeJay on Aug 6, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

really? it had some wicked downward movement though.

by JP_Frost on Aug 6, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

So we are at about 59 hours and counting on the Carl Pavano trade deadline?

Front page story in the Boston Globe about how desperate Boston is for pitching (see fanshot on Byrd)

by APV on Aug 6, 2009 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully they get desperate enough to offer us something for Pavano.

by MooneysRebellion on Aug 6, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Let the bidding begin!

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Aug 6, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Victor Martinez!

by Logodaedalus on Aug 6, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gotta be worth his salary and at least a novelty prospect, right?

by fleerdon on Aug 6, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Baseball Prospectus’ 2005 comments on Chris Snelling:

Because he’s friendly, funny, has an accent, and was into Yoda, Snelling was a novelty prospect, now forgotten. But his battles with injuries have honed his dedication, and Snelling’s still got potential even now as he works his way back…wait, no, he just injured himself again. It’s been so long since he’s played regularly that predictions are meaningless.
Not proposing we trade Pavano to Philly for Chris Snelling, I just think it’s funny.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of a novelty prospect.

by odradek on Aug 6, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball Novelty:

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The “Corked Bat Collection”…love it.

by hans on Aug 6, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have to make my wine cellar a lot wider … or longer.

Usually, an incredible waste of pixels.

by emd2k3 on Aug 6, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carrasco and Hagadone are starting tonight drool

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Aug 6, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions  

So where is Hagadone anyways? Kinston? Lake County?

by hans on Aug 6, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting to me that Laffey said he was throwing his fastball, cutter, slider, curve, and change last night. I never thought of him as a 5-pitch guy. I really liked seeing Morneau and Kubel go down looking at high 90 mph fastballs, though.

by fleerdon on Aug 6, 2009 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

How many are plus pitches though?

by Roger Dorn on Aug 6, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recs for the both of you.

by fleerdon on Aug 6, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can go for that.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 6, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Winston Abreu turned down his assignment to Columbus and opted for free agency

by APV on Aug 6, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

it’ll only sting when he gets the victory in a 15-inning World Series classic

by APV on Aug 6, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can help the Lake County Fielders win the Northern League championship in their inaugural season. Bonus: opportunity to get Kevin Costner’s autograph on paycheck.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

noon game…awesome

by APV on Aug 6, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Plus Mahoning Valley is playing right now. Kipnis is a bum – his batting average is down to .600.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’s only 5’10" 175?

by APV on Aug 6, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

no marte no marte no marte no shopvack.

by emil minty on Aug 6, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore CF, Cabrera SS, Choo RF, Peralta 3B, Hafner DH, Gimenez 1B, Valbuena 2B, Crowe LF,
Toregas C

This will be Chris Gimenez’s ninth consecutive appearance (eight starts). Marte has played in five of those games.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see more Giminez at catcher. Less Toregas.

by Toxicadam on Aug 6, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I put this in the Wedge poll thread, but since Vic’s last game for a non-evil franchise, Wyatt Toregas has the same number of starts as Kelly Shoppach.

by FredOx on Aug 6, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see more Marte, less Toregas.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Aug 6, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Les Toregas…when did we draft that guy?

by APV on Aug 6, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see more Shoppach at catcher. Less of either of those other guys.

"It's all part of life's rich pageant, you know?" - Inspector Clouseau

by woodsmeister on Aug 6, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can close that Wedge poll.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 6, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I like Giminez — I have nothing against him — but Wedge really needs to be smacked upside the head for not playing Marte at least 80% of the time.

by Logodaedalus on Aug 6, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I mean, who could have seen this coming?

by Joel D on Aug 6, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He plays Jhonny over Marte. That should tell you how great Wedge’s disdain for Marte is.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on Aug 6, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

you’re on a roll in t his thread

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Aug 6, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need to check the podcast, but I think I said it on the radio show the other night … Marte gets sat half the time, hits .200, gets released.

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

by Jay on Aug 6, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw this. Man, do I hate the ridiculousness that is late-vintage Eric Wedge.

by NickFantana on Aug 11, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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