Game 111: Indians 8, White Sox 4
by Ryan on Aug 9, 2009 6:26 PM EDT
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In the past couple weeks, the Indians have won a series against each of the three AL Central leaders, with two of them coming on the road. If this had happened, say, in May, then it would be a great sign for the season, that the Indians are for real, et cetera, et cetera. But what does accomplishing this feat after the roster's been torn apart, and there's nothing to play for? Does it reinforce the argument that Eric Wedge does his best managing with young rosters and no pressure? Perhaps. Does it mean that each of the AL Central leaders have major flaws? Absolutely. Does it mean that this team is good enough to challenge for the division title next season? Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
It was encouraging to see, at least in this series, that the starting pitching that's left still can hold its own. Jeremy Sowers has had his best run of starts in several years, culminating with Friday's outing. Justin Masterson acquitted himself very well in his first start as an Indian. And David Huff recovered from a horrible second inning and stuck around into the seventh today. Sowers and Huff were at the bottom of the spring starter depth chart, and Masterson was brought aboard a little more than a week ago after being a reliever all season, so the Indians did this with their C rotation.
On the offensive side, the same could be said about the fill-ins at the bottom of the order today as the three starters this weekend. Andy Marte at the beginning of the season was put through waivers, and passed through unclaimed. Luis Valbuena was brought up a year early, Crowe was on the straight and narrow path to failed prospectom, and Wyatt Toregas was just up here to fill in until Lou Marson came up. With the exception of Valbuena, none of these guys projected to be major contributors to the next good Indians team, even after all the trades. But today, these four drove the offensive attack, getting on base eight times between them. Jamey Carroll had one of his best offensive days of the season, hitting a two-run homer and a double. If the script holds, that means Jamey will be playing in another uniform before Tuesday's game.
| Highest WPA | Lowest WPA | ||
| Jamey Carroll | .305 | Grady Sizemore | -.146 |
| Andy Marte | .136 | David Huff | -.039 |
| Wyatt Toregas | .083 | Shin-Soo Choo | -.017 |
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Jameys’ comments after the game, as per the PD…
""It’s been said that we play better when the games are meaningless," said Carroll. “To us, these aren’t meaningless games. Everybody else has to face these teams, these pitchers. So do we. We’re just trying to come out and win. We have young guys who have come in here and contributed. Chris Gimenez got some big hits for us early on. Wyatt Toregas had some big hits today. So did Andy Marte. Timely hitting helps and we’ve been able to do that over the last few series.”
Nice…
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
There has to be at least one secret LGTer on the triibe. Right…right?
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by world dictator on Aug 10, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Caught the last few innings. Valbuena smoked a triple, and it was nice to see Crowe bring him home on a sac fly that could have been a double if not for Posednick making a pretty good running catch. Man, there is a hi level of frustration in Chicago after this series. At times like these, it’s fun walking the dogs in Grant Park wearing my Chief Wahoo hat.
Chitown Fan
Actual Ha! out loud.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 9, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I crazy for starting to like Crowe? He doesn’t really have terrible AB’s and plays solid (if uninspired) defense. Yes, he is a placeholder until Brantley arrives … but he seems worthy of a spot next year.
Watch him longer and the AB will get worse.
Go ahead and like him, just realize that it’s only because I’ve been burying everyone’s expectations on the guy for three years now.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 9, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I pretend he’s just a ghost runner.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
by USSChoo on Aug 9, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, the tough part was drafting him 14th overall. Not many teams would be willing to do that.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
We should thank Shapiro? This seems backwards.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
Completely off topic…but is anyone else watching the ESPN Sunday Night Game and having trouble deciding who to root for? It used to be a no brainer, pull for Boston. Now? Hate em both!
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
Really good answer.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 9, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think this is inconsistent. Injuries also make for busts and lead to 12-11 games.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 9, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Talk about rubbing it in, they have Luis Tiant in the booth!
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
How little changes … we had him at his best … Boston had him at his longest … and the Yankees had him at his oldest.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 9, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yep, and before the silly fu manchu, which he unfortunately still has.
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
Just noticed, but it looks like they took the photo in the old Yankmee Stadium…WTF?
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
The Topps photographers, back in the day, were small in number and would usually just take all their pictures at the local park, getting most of the players when they were the visiting team. It’s why you may only see four or five stadiums in the vast majority of an entire set.
I guess I didn’t pay attention when I was a kid, just starry eyed looking at my heroes. I do remember that a lot of them had palm trees in the background (or desert mountains). As I recall reading somewhere, the players got a stipend for the pix, and before the big money, it all mattered.
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
In 1968 with our Indians, Tiant ended the year with a 1.60 ERA and still managed to lose 9 games.
featuring the curses of Bobby Bragan and Rocky Colavito
Yea, but remember the batting champ Yaz, who also won the Triple Crown, hit only .301, so it was skewed that year. In ’69 they lowered the mound and that contributed to blowing up the Indians with Tiant, Siebert, and McDowell being the core strength.
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
by ChitownTribe on Aug 9, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’d be hard pressed to find any starting pitcher in history who carried an ERA as low as 1.60 and lost 30% of their decisions.
featuring the curses of Bobby Bragan and Rocky Colavito
Addie Joss twice. Walter Johnson four times. It happened 20 times from 1902-1919, but the only recent pitchers to manage it were Tiant and Steve Rogers, who was 10-5 with a 1.54 ERA in 17 starts for Montreal in 1973. In 1910, Ed Walsh was 18-20 with a 1.27 ERA.
Addie Joss is God. Big Ed Walsh was the closest thing to Addie Joss in the history of baseball
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
only problem is that his life was cut short. why couldnt he have pitched for us in 97 during the world series cause he probably would have gone 9 or 10 innings
Thank you Mesa for blowing the one chance Cleveland had of being happy during the 90's.
Only problem is that your sig sucks. I don’t want to read that crap every time you post something.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 11, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
yeah…humongous BOOOO for that mesa-related sig
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 11, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Addie Joss hack thing was one of the first jokes I remember on LGT.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re both right. TB meningitis. Incidence is now down to around 200-300 cases yearly in North America, and I was actually looking after a patient with it here a few months ago. Pretty wild stuff.
by supermarioelia on Aug 10, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’t wait for the Tiant documentary tonight … reviews I’ve read said it’s absolutely amazing.
by FallsTribeFan on Aug 10, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, I’d still take the Red Sox over the Yankee’s any day. Except maybe when Joba’s on the mound.
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by world dictator on Aug 9, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yankees*
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by world dictator on Aug 9, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Want me to hook you up?
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by world dictator on Aug 9, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not with that one! Or the other one, he’s married.
I’m still confused why “Joba” pitching makes you want the Yankees to win. Am I misreading something?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Because Joba is teh awesome. Duh
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by world dictator on Aug 9, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Miller
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by world dictator on Aug 9, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Just some thoughts from some one who braved the 95 degree heat at the Cell in Section 122.
*For one day at least, these guys sprayed line drives around the yard like it was their job. Aesthetically at least, it should be fun watching these guys rest of this year and next instead of the slow-footed Garko’s and Martinez’s of the world.
*Valbuena took the extra base twice… 1st and 3rd on a single to left field no less, and a triple that was a triple only because he thought triple out of the box. All he does is hit line drives.
*Nice of Peralta to get 2 hits… but all I could remember was him leaving the runner on 3rd base two consecutive times with one out. That and getting thrown out by about 10 feet at third on a bouncer to the 1st baseman!! Just one man’s opinion, but I just cringe when I see him anymore…
*Why Chris Perez can’t come back out for the 9th after throwing 8 pitches or whatever in the 9th is beyond me. But by all means, let’s try and vest Kerry Wood’s 2011 option when we’re up by 4 runs in the 9th.
*Marte’s (whatever it was, 10 pitch? 11 pitch?) at bat was just magical which ended in the walk.
Unless we just let Wood rot on the bench for the rest of the season i think his option will be more or less vested. At least thats what I recall the last time I looked at the numbers.
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by world dictator on Aug 9, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m really OK with this, I don’t like the idea of throwing one of our young arms to the closer’s role so soon anyway. Maybe he’ll perform very well next year and become a viable trading chip. It’s possible.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
I wondered about this with the Pavano contract also: it’s not like a year out of contention was completely off the radar, doesn’t someone ask about what will happen in that case with these incentives?
“Hey Kerry (or Carl), if we’re out of it, we’re not going to play you that much, just so we save money.” Or more likely the opposite – they give their word that they won’t sit them just to save money.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/web/COM1055578/2/index.htm
This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.
Yikes. Yes, this is exactly it. Is it “bush-league,” as claimed below, or it is just business? My point is that if I’m negotiating the contract, I bring it up at the negotiation stage, rather than leaving it open to interpretation and “respect” when the situation arises.
by dgcambridge on Aug 10, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure it’s possible. It’s also possible we let the 2011 option vest unnecessarily in late 2009 and he blows his arm out at the beginning of 2010. Why risk that when you’ve already lost $16MM? I get bringing him into save situations and the occasional “he hasn’t pitched in awhile” game, but this is just stupid. If we’re not going to pay Kelly Shoppach $4MM for 2010 than they should be doing everything possible NOT to vest 2011 for KW.
I’m sorry, I must have missed that part where we have someone else who can close ballgames right now. To me the ideal situation is, let Kerry earn a trade in the first half of 2010. Trade him if we aren’t in it and let our young arms have a shot at the role for the rest of the season. I really don’t feel like handing the closer role to one of our setup men is a smart move when those setup men are still getting their feet wet.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
Because it is a bush-league thing to do, squeezing somebody for incentives. Agents notice such behavior, as do other players. Plus, I think there’s a chance Wood is lights out next year.
by odradek on Aug 9, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The bush-league thing is the only possible motivator. The lights-out chance is irrelevant; it’s a club option if it doesn’t vest.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
My point isn’t that he will or won’t be good, only that his being good doesn’t make it more or less advantageous that the option vests. The option vesting can only be a bad thing; it can’t be a good thing, unless it vests this year, and then he’s injured next year, and then somehow after we’re forced to pick up the 2011 option he’s brilliant in 2011.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I know that. They’re two discrete comments. The option vesting, at this point, is a neutral event, no? But I don’t understand what you’re saying about 2011. Wouldn’t the best scenario be for him to vest and be awesome in both 2010 and 2011? (This was what I kept waiting to happen during Dellucci’s three-year contract.)
If it doesn’t vest you say money. If it does vest, you have a back-of-pen arm. The team will need a “closer” either way, no?
someone else who can close ballgames right now
You mean, someone else with the magic game-closing powers?
Geez, this wasn’t even a save situation, but I daresay even in our awful bullpen, every guy out there is more likely than not to give up fewer than four runs in an inning — even the 9th inning.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Fair enough, but would you really rather have someone else doing it? And if so, who? Perez? I just don’t see a justification for anyone else and close by committee just makes me cringe.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
“close by committee” is not what we’re talking about, not that it’s really even a problem.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I’d like to add, as I didn’t make it clear, I wasn’t really advocating for Kerry to finish this game, that wasn’t really necessary, I was more arguing his use overall.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
I think the point above was just that we shouldn’t artificially find extra, unexpected ways to use him at the end of a game.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
You’re right, I just saw the possibility for trying to justify sitting him even more out of fear of the option. I came unhinged and as you know by now, I often need re-hinged. Or closed by committee.
Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009
Excellent that you were there, and tough cuz it was brutal in Chicago today. Thanks for the observations. On the tube, it looked like Luis thought triple immediately, just like you said.
Related to Chicago, on another thread someone was making fun of the Chicago announcers, but all kidding aside, they know their stuff and they just love Choo.
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
by ChitownTribe on Aug 9, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless by “stuff” you mean knowing how to be incessantly annoying.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
They may or may not know their stuff, sadly they’re so insufferable you don’t want to listen to it to find out
by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Aug 10, 2009 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
He gone!
"I once spent a year in Philadelphia, I think it was on a Sunday." (W. C. Fields)
by ChitownTribe on Aug 10, 2009 7:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m a flag virgin. I’m not experienced enough.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Aug 11, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Marte’s at-bat was awesome. I’m not sure I can get too worked up for Peralta’s baserunning. It’s a grounder to the right side, at that point he just turns his head to third and guns it. Even if Skinner gives him the stop sign, at that point he’s probably in no-man’s land. I think instead of blame to either of them it should be credit to Kotsay for making a very good play.
Steel Nick
High-fiving Pedroia, and hugging Papi….like what the hell is going on? I guess we can all take solace that Swine flu precautions might wipe out the World Series entirely, making all of this douchiness moot.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I was all “Yeah a home run for victor!” and then I remembered he was on the red sox, and then I was sad.
Yeah I had the same disturbing thought process.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Swine flu wipes out both of these teams. Dancing fools.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Quicker it ends the better. We need the Red Sox rested up and pissed off to beat down the Tigers.
INDIANS PLAYOFF FEVER….FEEL THE EXCITEMENT!
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah, do the ELO one. It’s always higher.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, I fully expect there to be some sort of “an entire team gets the swine flu!” thing once it’s flu season. sadly, this means it will probably be a football team and not a baseball team, so i won’t be paying nearly as much attention.
Yeah I can see things getting crazy in the fall. I’m doing a respirology elective in November, which I’m already dreading.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why they call it an elective dude. Drop it like first period French. Man up and do a month on Cardiology instead.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
Cardiology in Alberta the beginning of October. Get a peak into the world of private health care.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Alberta is the land of private health care?
by Logodaedalus on Aug 10, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Some predictions from infectious disease experts as to what might happen this fall. I think it’s being overblown, but there are those who think this might be quite the pandemic.
by supermarioelia on Aug 9, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember SARS? or the bird flu? or Ebola? Plenty of medical boogie men out there. Like Choo says, the death rates a 100%.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
I love agreeing with you Chuck, it seems like it’s all I ever do. The last WHO-declared flu pandemic was the Hong Kong Flu, which killed over a million people in about a year starting in 1968. Swine flu has killed 332 people, yet the WHO has declared it a level six pandemic, which is the highest level. Clearly, something doesn’t fit here. Or they need to refine their scale.
Well, one thing that doesn’t fit is that Hong Kong had a 40-year head start. The book isn’t closed on swine flu. Maybe it’s doing a rope-a-dope.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
The Hong Kong flu outbreak was an H3N2 strain that began in July 1968 and was contained sometime in mid-to-late in 1969. The Hong Kong flu didn’t have a 40 year head start; it killed all those people in about a year’s time. Swine flu was declared a pandemic on 11 June of this year, so it has about 10-12 months to kill at least 999,668 people to catch up. At the current rate, that seems unlikely.
Or you could consider the fact that the seasonal flu kills 36,000 people every year in the US alone and is yet to be declared a pandemic by the WHO. My larger point (if I have one) is that the swine flu doesn’t provide the results that would justify the hype and coverage that it gets.
Are you telling me I can take down my mosquito nets I put up in 1990 to protect me from the africanized killer bee invasion?
Or you could consider the fact that the seasonal flu kills 36,000 people every year in the US alone and is yet to be declared a pandemic by the WHO. My larger point (if I have one) is that the swine flu doesn’t provide the results that would justify the hype and coverage that it gets.
People love to crap their pants about things.
Steel Nick
Yup. And it keeps infectious disease experts in the spotlight.
by supermarioelia on Aug 10, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but all we ask for is some realistic perspective as to the likely progression of it. And it ends up being a random game of predictions followed by “told ya sos” when a case of Influenza A does come back positive. Trust me, lived this firsthand for a couple of months now and it’s pretty tiresome.
by supermarioelia on Aug 10, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
crapping one’s pants counts as an infections disease??
by DontCallMeJoey on Aug 10, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
True story. One of my goomba’s, Joe Paul Meyers – he was named after Joe Dimaggio – took up ID as a sub-specialty at the start of the 80’s cuz he wantta do all that pointy-headed navel gazing the Internists do without having to get up in the middle of the night. He figured he be doin’ nothin’ but consults to IM and Surg guys and just lookin’ at cultures and pass out anti-biotics. Easy money. But then – WHAM! – the AIDS epidemic hit and he’s up to his ass in critically ill patients workin 90-120 hours a week and buryin’ 20% of his practice every month.
Moral to the story: you never know which way your specialty will take you in 10-15 years.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
I come for the baseball. I stay for the life lessons.
by supermarioelia on Aug 11, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like he born to be an Indian.
by supermarioelia on Aug 11, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t go away. I’m still so sad. I start to think I’m to the acceptance stage but I’m not. I just don’t think about it and when I’m forced to it sucks.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
You and your laundry. That doesn’t make it easier. I want him in our laundry.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
There is a decent chance that Boston, having given up two good prospects and a good young starter for Victor, somehow manages to miss the playoffs anyway, in part because they parted with Masterson and failed to acquire Pavano. That would be kind of sweet, even if it does mean the Yankees make it. I say this only because I don’t think the Yankees can be kept out this year — the odds went over 95% tonight.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 10, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn’t be that were doing so well right now is cuz we’re playin’ AL Central teams could it?
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
by mauichuck on Aug 9, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Stop it with your reasons for 2010 optimism.
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by world dictator on Aug 9, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad the AL Central doesn’t play the NL West more. My money’d be on the NLW.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
Chuck … when will you figure this out … Casey Blake is like an All-Star in the NL West, and Manny is like a 28-year-old Manny, and Nomar Garciaparra still has a career. Meanwhile, Josh Barfield comes to Cleveland and looks utterly like a minor leaguer from day one. You think this is a coincidence?
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Let’s wait for the WS. My money’s on the NL West representing the National League and giving the ALers – whoever they are, and I’m pretty sure it won’t be Detroit or Chicago – a run for their money. And oh yeah, the NL West can out pitch the AL Central on just about any day, under any circumstance.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
And I think you greatly over-estimate the quality of AL hitting and fail to appreciate how good those pitchers over in the NL are. What, you don’t like Pujolz? or Lincecolm? or Lee? We’ll talk again in October.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
Well (sort of) name two of the best players in baseball, that’s a solid argument. Garko looks good in the NL West, that’s all you need to know.
fwembt, I’m surprise at you. Don’t you look at the numbers before you declare something like “Garko looks good in the NL West”?
Cleveland ’09 362 .464 .826
San Fran ’09 .362 .443 .805
Looks pretty damn close to me.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
What you cite there are actually Garko’s Cleveland numbers and his total numbers. He’s sucked in San Fran. The thing is that an NL West GM thought enough of Ryan Garko, a one tool player, to trade a young, relatively promising pitcher for him. He’s a fit out there. Can you imagine a competing AL team doing that?
It’s also possible that Sabean did something stupid. After all, one can say that
The thing is that an AL West GM thought enough of Ben Broussard, a one tool player, to trade a young, relatively promising outfielder for him.Or
The thing is that an AL West GM thought enough of Eduardo Perez, a one tool player, to trade a young, relatively promising infielder for him.
by FredOx on Aug 11, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You can’t paint the whole AL West with the Bavasi brush. The man isn’t even employed anymore.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
By the way, today marks Huff throwing down the gauntlet to Laffey in a race to most wins by an Indians pitcher in 2009.
Steel Nick
Can we count Lee’s wins in Philly and Pavano’s wins in Twinky Town?
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
That’s a Latin grammarical thing. I don’t give a damn about English grammar, why would I care about the grammar for a language that’s been dead for over a millinium. Irony noted.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
That’s why I said If you care. “That is the sort of thing up with which I will not put,” as Mr. Churchill said. I imagine he’s a guy you’d probably like to get piss drunk with, Chuck?
Steel Nick
Who wouldn’t want to get drunk with Churchill? Although I hear he was a terrible wing man.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by Jay on Aug 10, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bessie Braddock: "Sir, you are drunk."
Churchill: "Madam, you are ugly. In the morning, I shall be sober."
Stuart Dean
Man, we’re very border line political tonight.
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by world dictator on Aug 10, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Great post.
I propose giving Victor a 2012 World Series ring.
by Gradyforpresident on Aug 11, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Either it’s really easy to get into Jhonny Peralta’s head or Andrew was really channeling something.
From his play:
PERALTA
So, what I try to do is do the same thing, every day. No matter what.
VALBUENA
So, for a curveball, a real good curve, what do you?
PERALTA
I try to hit it.
VALBUENA
And with a fastball?
PERALTA
Try to hit it. Same swing.
VALBUENA
And a slider?
PERALTA
Also try to hit it. Just swing the bat the same way and put it in play.
VALBUENA
What if it’s raining? What do you do?
PERALTA
I usually try to go and play unless someone tells me I’m not allowed to.
VALBUENA
What about when it’s cold out?
PERALTA
I wear a jersey and I play.
VALBUENA
When it’s hot?
PERALTA
Same thing. Wear jersey and play.
VALBUENA
In the offseason? In January?
PERALTA
I come here to the ballpark but usually it is pretty empty. So I stand around the infield for three hours and then I go home.
And from today’s Plain Dealer, actual Peralta quotes:
“People sometimes think I don’t play hard,” he said. "This is how I play. I don’t change too much.
“Some people, when I don’t do good, they think I’m not trying. But this is how I play. I do good, I do bad, I play the same.”
In Saturday’s 8-5 loss to Chicago, Peralta reached into the stands to make a nice catch of Alexei Ramirez’s foul pop in the fifth inning.
“I didn’t think it could get it,” he said. "I just threw my glove in the stands and felt something in my glove. I said, ‘Well, OK.’ "
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 10, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
Is it me, or have we had a lot of off days over the past month? And not a double header to be seen. I guess we were lucky with spring rains this year.
In other news, Columbus is putting out a very uninspiring lineup tonight. Brantley is 1-2 with a 2B, Marson is 0-1, and Mike Gosling is pitching into the third.
Steel Nick
You have a typo there:
NL WEST: PILE ONF FAIL
by Logodaedalus on Aug 11, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way, I figured out why I couldn’t figure out what LGBT meant the other day. I have always heard LGBTQ and apparently without the Q I didn’t understand.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
In a shocking turn of events, tonight’s lineup includes Marte and Shoppach, with nary a Gimenez or Toregas to be found:
Sizemore CF, Cabrera SS, Choo RF, Peralta 3B, Hafner DH, Valbuena 2B, Shoppach C, Crowe LF, Marte 1B
Yup, mentioned this the other night. Would be nice to go Shoppach, Marte, Valbuena, Crowe tonight.
by supermarioelia on Aug 11, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently the answer to your question is, Wedge.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 11, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Ozzie Guillen comment is priceless
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
You are really getting close to the threshold where we ban you just for being annoying.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
wow
why do you guys hate me, I was just commenting,I won’t come here anymore if you threaten with a ban for just trying to contribute
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
First, try harder; you haven’t contributed yet.
Second, we don’t use subject lines here, as you’ve been told three times now.
Fourth, your sig is obnoxious.
I’ll think of a third thing later.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
what do you mean by subject line?
Carlos Guillen, the Latino Nick Punto - BouJouma
Please takeyour latte circle jerk to another thread. -WU
babies are young and under team control for at least 12 years -Billyok
i heard kenny williams' mother bought a lottery ticket and lost so kenny williams traded his mother - Billyok
Can we have this updated to include the only time a subject line should be used? When a large pic/gif is embedded?
I don’t think there should be a subject line even then, but I’m not going to give people a hard time about it.
I think the only time a subject line should be used is when you really feel that your Comment needs a title and appropriately should have one.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
What about animated gifs so you can get rid of them since they slow things down?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
by ClemsonGirl on Aug 12, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly? You can get a computer for about $300 that doesn’t have any speed issues. None of us have control over the fact that (in auto-update mode), SBN 2.0 is a processor-heavy application. If you want to run it without aggravation, you need a decent PC. It’s time people stopped blaming other users for a mismatch between the platform and their own PC.
Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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