Game Thread 2: September 1, 2009
by Ryan on Sep 1, 2009 8:56 PM EDT
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Top of the sixth, Detroit 8-4.
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still here … largely against my better judgement
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
it’s exciting to see some of these young guys play, even if they are taking knocks… it’s worth sticking around for
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Just so long as they end up on the fair side, I’m not complaining!!
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
somewhat, that’s been a problem for him in the past
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be a product of where they’re pitching him, no? I’ve seen him put at least one or two good hits up the middle.
by fleerdon on Sep 1, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be. They’ve pretty much all been low and inside, right?
by APV on Sep 1, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of what I’m thinking. Sure, I’d like to see him take it the other way, but I still want him to punish it if they miss inside.
by fleerdon on Sep 1, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i said “since tuesday” after hegan dropped that one
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, hot damn. I cannot tell you how sure I was that at some point — maybe three years from now — Marte would get another shot on a crappy team and turn out to be a very good player. I just never imagined that crappy team would be us. Small consolation, but I’ll take it.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Didn’t you just recently say you weren’t as sure of Marte as everyone else around here was?
CFO of Klezmer
Jay’s been firmly on the Marte bandwagon for a while now. I feel so damn cocky for being the first one on the ship.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
My loyalty began spring 2008 I believe. Sitting in Goodyear with stupid fans around me ripping him despite him hitting bombs….that solidified it.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
We need a photoshop of Andy hitting homeruns in the middle of the desert with me sitting in a lawn chair watching him.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I was sure that eventually he would put something together.
I was not sure about this year. Hell, I’m still not sure. This is still a Garko-esque hot two weeks, although at least it wasn’t in September.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So, I’m thinkin about that series at the Cell starting on the 28th…
by fleerdon on Sep 1, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I had totally forgotten they came one more time. I can only go night of the 28th-8th grade class trip is the back half of that week.
You should come.
See what I can do. I’d come up for the weekend and stay an extra night.
by fleerdon on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Marte is just one HR away from tieing his career best in HR. He hit 5 in the last nine weeks of the 2006 season.
We should pretend 2006-2008 did not happen and that we acquired a 25 year old that had a really nice season in AAA.
This is a version of what I was saying in 2007 and 2008.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened to that awesome other more prophetic gamethread2?
This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.
We simul-posted. But it’s true, I was setting up a cool Marte graphic — “Don’t worry, Marte will handle it.” — and as I hit the POST button, Marte went yard.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
most facts are
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I am rooting for Shoppach to drop below .200 BA, but remain above .700 OPS. That would be impressive.
dave kingman has to have similar type numbers
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
or maybe tettleton
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
.203 and .779 in 1973. The only guys with a BA under .200 and OPS over .700 with at least 400 PA are Rob Deer and Ruben Rivera.
The same Ruben Rivera with the ’worst base running in the history of baseball?
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
in 73 kingman almost OPS’ed .800 (.779) while hitting .203
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
is he any good?
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Jose Veras should be exciting
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We talked a lot about how Marte always starts slow; he takes a while to settle in. The theory was that this makes it even worse to play him sporadically, as essentially he never settles in. He’s hitting something like .100 in the first 41 PA of any callup. Truly terrible.
Well, once again, he had a 468 OPS in his first 41 PA in the majors this season, and from PA #42 on, I believe he’s over 1000 at the moment.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah gotchya.
ALL HAIL THE 41 PA ARGUMENT!
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone tell me how to make this update itself and we’re golden.
This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.
What is a vesting option? I can kind of get the gist from what Roger said but I don’t really know?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Generally, it’s a club option for an extra year on a contract, except that if a player reaches certain goals, the club option becomes another guaranteed year. Sometimes, vesting an option might even be detrimental to a player.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were a player, I’d make up the coolest vesting option ever. Like if I get 200 hits in a season, I get to wear a vest for the rest of the next season.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved those uniforms with the vests. They were awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I dislike the color of the throwback uniforms, but other than that they’re ok. That yellow/off-white just looks like a sweat-stained wifebeater.
CFO of Klezmer
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
i was wondering when someone was going to post those
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
UGH!! That is Uh-GLEE!!!
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no clue. just got lucky that this one wasn’t 4x as large.
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
the html is < img src=“link” > without the spaces
the tag to reduce the size is < img width=“#pixels” src=“link” >
Usually go with 200-300 pixels.
by fleerdon on Sep 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s hideous
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to find some of the pics of the ‘Flash Forward’ unis from 1999, but the search didn’t go well, and I already have a headache…
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
sell high… this is the most popularity it’ll ever get
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
these are awesome actually… these and the old sky blue cardinals and blue jays unis
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
My mom says the baby blues look like someones pajamas!!
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
My mom says the baby blues look like someone’s awesome pajamas!!
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get why, though….
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they accidentally called up Pino for the start in Detroit and left Carrasco in Columbus.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think this same kind of mixup is how Rick Bauer made it to Cleveland.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn’t sure whether you were being sarcastic, so I doublechecked, and Bauer’s AAA stats weren’t bad. Should’ve picked another scrub.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Pino soaking in some of that superior Indians pitching wisdom.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Chapter 1 – “How to succeed against AAA hitters” /heavily ear-marked, ragged corners
Chapter 2 – “How to succeed against major league hitters” pages uncut
by APV on Sep 1, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else have the strange feeling we are going to win this game?
by APV on Sep 1, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I still believe the Indians would be leading the division if standings were displayed in binary.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as Ohka keeps putting up zeros and twos, we have a chance.
by Jay on Sep 1, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It is slightly fun having a slightly rangy first baseman with a slick glove. Not a fantastic utilization of resources, but slightly fun.
Mm-hmm. And how many more this month? I rest my case.
by fleerdon on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, some people are trying to win a division here.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
So I was reading Cot’s because of the Magglio contract.
Jamey Carroll gets a whopping 100k bonus if he wins league MVP.
I can’t believe the FO is willing to take that kind of risk in September by keeping him. Unbelievable.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
heart of the order
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
the tigers are heading for a heartbreak
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i had to quote winger
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that trajectory of hit from him though. Not the crazy arc swing that gets him in trouble.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
sharp as a whistle…
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t worry, jensen’s here.
yeah, o/u on HR at 2.5 I’d say.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i cant even believe he was good as our closer last year
fixed
This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.
21.2 innings, 19 hits, 6 BB, 1.15 WHIP, 22 K, 2.9 ERA. People forget Jensen CAN be good, even with his 89mph fastball.
i think the big problem is that JENSEN forgets he can be good
(did you go to vandy w/ all this ’dore love?)
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure this can’t be the first time today someone has pointed this out, but Taylor Green is OPSing .698 as a 22-year-old in AA.
Steel Nick
Well, evidence is mounting that the secret to Mark Shapiro’s success is making a million trades and having a few guys pan out. Meh, guys like LaPorta at least.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Being quite facetious in my comment there. Basically implying that he uses huge quantities of trades to find a few gems to justify his existence.
Oh look, now I’ve gone too far.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
it might not be the first time today, like, in the world. but it’s certainly the first time i’ve heard it today.
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
cage match
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather have LaCruoy than Brantley I think.
by afh4 on Jul 6, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up actions 0 recs
I still can’t find the GD thread where we spent 200 comments on Green v. Brantley. I’ve apparently found every other Brewers trade thread.
Steel Nick
why is everyone so high on Brantley? He has a decent bat with good plate discipline and some speed, but he has no power and apparently he’s very shaky defensively. BA even calls him a 4th outfielder. We already have Brantley in our system in the form of Trevor Crowe. While he’s older, he also has more power and a better glove.
Atleast with Green or Lucroy you have players that can stay in the infield and have more tools than Brantley.
by JP_Frost on Aug 14, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like everything about this. He’s pretty much proven he’s ready for AAA based on his SO/BB ratio alone. I like the fact that they are being a little more aggressive. Both he and Laporta should be in AAA (unless Laporta can win a job in spring training…..oh one can dream)
by hans on Oct 3, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Brantley’s K% this year was a real indicator of his skill, and not a fluke, it is a better skill than anything Crisp ever displayed in the minors. For that matter, it is a better skill than anything Lofton displayed aside from Lofton’s speed. And not striking out is probably a better skill than being fast, especially given Brantley is not slow. There are a lot of nice things about Brantley, but that K% from this season is the single best number about him. The extent to which it reflects Brantley’s real ability will go a long way in determining what kind of ceiling he probably has.
by APV on Oct 6, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All you guys are going to find out, he doesn’t need to trade anything for power other than his youth. He can stay the same kind of hitter and he’ll hit 25 home runs by age 25. Who wants to make a wager on nit?
by Jay on Oct 6, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously there will be an increase in power with age. But I remain skeptical in the absence of evidence to the contrary that his baseline power (age-adjusted), which to this point has been very minimal, will show a dramatic increase. His has a track record of pounding the ball into the ground.
by APV on Oct 7, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are we at shop, brantley, grady right now?
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
carroll ph-ing for shop
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Are we trying to win this game?
If yes, Jensen really wasn’t the right call. If no, why the hell is Carroll in there?
Because he’s better than Shoppach
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, I guess, but even at this point I’d like to see whether Shoppach can buckle down and make sure he gets on base.
by supermarioelia on Sep 1, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Jamey did the same thing that Shop probably would have so….
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but not as prophetic…
Tribe in '09!!
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 1, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well when we get them they’re cool. We don’t play on a fake playing surface.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
I don’t buy that the Twins will be any less hateable on grass.
by fleerdon on Sep 1, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t either (for you). Because they play a certain way that you don’t like and they aren’t going to change as soon as they play on grass. I have a feeling their style of play won’t be as successful so they may change it then or just find another way to make it work. So I did not mean that anyone who hates them should stop hating them next year.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
wow … strike 1 to grady looks like the worst call in teh world on gameday
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
4 REALZ
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I have about an hour and a half to settle on my fantasy football team name before the draft. It is currently a Bell Biv Devoe reference.
song reference or group name/member reference?
I reserve the right to complain about Gimenez at 1B and Carroll in the OF, no matter the facts. - FredOx
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 1, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
gameday didn’t even give it the “sharply” adjective
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
you mean dimples?
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 1, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
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