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I honestly wish they’d have shut him down a while ago. I mean, there’s nothing to gain from him continuing to play this season. I’m obviously not his doctor (or a doctor at all, although I did play one in a High School play once) but one would think he might be a risk to injure it more by continuing to play. While I’m sure the Indians wouldn’t put a player in that type of risk, playing every day seemingly wouldn’t allow the elbow to get better.

Plus, with this season a wash already, why not ensure there are no post surgery recovery hiccups and just give Grady time to heal. With Crowe coming back off the DL, just get it done. Give Brantley a proper cup ‘o coffee in the show and let him get the majority of AB’s for the rest of the season. That way he and LaPorta can both continue their progress.

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Sep 1, 2009 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

They should have done thise forever ago and I love seeing Grady play. It’s always tough for me to say they should shut him down but it really is the better thing to do.
Plus if they had done it earlier he could have been ready for the playoffs that we are SO getting into.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Sep 1, 2009 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

If our playoff % had brains, it’d get cut in half the day he gets shut down

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Sep 2, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

You can cut nothing in half? And if you can, is that an increase or decrease?

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Sep 2, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can most certainly cut 0.23503% in half.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Sep 2, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

But that ruins my joke!

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Sep 2, 2009 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

People act like a player has no say in his play time. You’re always playing for that next contract.

by Toxicadam on Sep 2, 2009 4:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, but I don’t think that really applies here.

Here Lies the Victor Martinez Era:
Sept. 10, 2002 - July 31, 2009

by USSChoo on Sep 2, 2009 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore wants to finish the season.

“Every player wants to finish the year,” he said. “It’s been a grind, but I want to be out there finishing with the guys.”

Link

by Toxicadam on Sep 2, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I don’t think that’s because he’s playing for his next contract.

by danvail on Sep 2, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I was being a bit glib. But players want to play because they love the game, they want to win and they want to perform well (and get paid accordingly). You can only satiate those three things by playing as much as possible. Which one is their priority is different among each player.

So, this idea that Grady would just raise the white flag on his season back in June/July is pretty stupid. He takes pride in playing everday and realizes that part of his value is tied into his durability (and of course his baseball skills).

by Toxicadam on Sep 2, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It may not be for the next contract either, but it could be for the numbers. Let’s say he was shut down earlier in the year and he plays another 15 seasons. What if he is just short on cracking 3000 career hits or 350 HRs or whatever other significant number it could be.

If he knew he could play without significantly furthering the damage, and his career numbers ended up just shy, wouldn’t he feel bad for just missing it when he shut it down for no reason at all?

by talonk on Sep 2, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s hard for a player to conceptualize that risking his long-term health for 50 more hits in the short-term is not a smart way to get to the Hall of Fame.

by Jay on Sep 2, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, but if he has the oks from the doctor to play, why would he want to shut it down. Am just saying this could be a small factor, not THE factor.

by talonk on Sep 2, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hardest thing in the world for a competitor to do is not compete even if the brain totally gets that he s or she shouldn’t be.

by stuart dean on Sep 2, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

They seem to agree there is minimal chance of further damage; the debate seems to be around how much time is required for recovery/rehab so he is completely ready for spring training.

by palcal on Sep 3, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way they can say with any certainty that there is a minimal chance of further damage. That really is horseradish.

by supermarioelia on Sep 3, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bigger concern is that the Wedgisms are being used by the players.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 2, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Have you ever noticed that “Wedgisms” could also be called “cliches that have been used in baseball since Cap Anson”? It doesn’t really bother me that our manager isn’t Dock Ellis or Dizzy Dean.

Now, “run into one”—that’s an original and one for the ages.

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Sep 2, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just lump “grind” into Wegisms since he uses it so dang much.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 2, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hoynes says that Operation Shutdown will commence today.

by painaxl on Sep 4, 2009 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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