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Fire Everyone! - The Trainers

This is the fourth installment in a 12-part series.

The Indians are four days from finishing a second straight season of no significant injuries to a starting pitcher. In the age of multimillion dollar salaries and exploding offenses, it is a significant achievement. Pitching coach Carl Willis immediately turned and knocked on his wooden locker. He then credited the pitchers for buying into what the training staff has preached, and also credited head trainer Lonnie Soloff and strength coach Tim Maxey for being proactive.

Priestle, Scott. "Starting pitchers free of major injuries."
Akron Beacon-Journal, 28 September 2006.

Ah, to be young.

Three years later, do we still believe that the Indians medical staff is all that and a bag of bosu balls? How do we account for that stretch of seeming medical invincibility in the mid-aughts, in light of more recent, less encouraging developments? Was it an unusually young team that slid off the back of the treadmill of time? Have the team's strength and conditioning methods changed for the worse? Or was it merely a run of preternatural good luck, and now the injuries have returned, like Fate in the Final Destination movies, to finish that which was left undone?

Objective analysis of these questions is just this side of impossible. Professional athletes, by definition, can generate physical forces at the extremes of human capability, but few are blessed with the durability to withstand those forces indefinitely. Baseball players, especially, must subject themselves to a brutally long season, and the stress of the sport is borne disproportionately by their dominant-side joints. Add to that the average MLB player's miserable diet, hard-partying lifestyle, and hectic travel schedule, and you have to wonder if the Indians' preference for "high-character" guys is little more than a pretense for choosing players who are, at a minimum, not of a disposition to wreck themselves.

Mind you, baseball is somewhat famously mired in the Dark Ages of fitness. It's a game decided by explosive movements and a short series of 90-foot sprints, but slow bodybuilding-style weightlifting and plodding long-distance runs are still common training protocols. I once was talking to a friend-of-a-friend who had pitched through high-A ball with the Braves before he bowed out with a bad shoulder. "What was your training regimen like?" I asked. He scoffed -- really, he scoffed. "I went back and trained with my college coach in the off-seasons," he said. "You gotta remember, it's such a long season, and the team invests so much in you. Most guys lift like idiots, and what the team wants more than anything is for you not to get hurt."

Star-divide

So contrast that against this anecdotal report of Tim Maxey's spring workouts, from the Cincinnati St. Xaiver High S&C coach's blog:

The Indians place a great emphasis on the physical development of every athlete that signs with the organization ... a priority that every staff member takes very seriously, which begins with the General Manager and filters all the way down towards the Latin American Academies .... All athletes work hard and with discipline during the training and conditioning sessions. They are well-supervised and every workout card is checked off [at the end of the] workout session. There is very little standing around.

Coach Alvarez goes on to describe an unremarkable workout plan. Basic, compound-movement, balanced lifts, some straight-forward sprinting, and a little corrective work at the end of the day. I've read a Maxey quote before to the effect that, "Hey, I don't care how good these guys look with their shirts off," and that's thoroughly in line with enlightened fitness thought as it relates to training athletes in-season.

A digression: American corporations operate under the protection of something called the "business judgment rule," which says, in essence, that the directors and officers do not incur liability to stockholders for business decisions gone awry as long as the decisions were reasonably well-informed and made with independent judgment. The easy version of the BJR is, if you do the right footwork, it doesn't matter how lousy the dance turns out.

Here's what (I think) I can say about the Indians' training staff: Their methods would pass muster under the business judgment rule. (If you're looking for a joke about that one time the Indians publicly sold shares of the club, you'll have to make it yourself.) Soloff and Maxey and their co-workers are competent, credentialed, and by all accounts hard-working individuals with the respect of their peers. They're doing the right footwork. My question for you: Is competence enough? If you say "no," you start an interesting conversation.

There's a lot of crazy stuff going on at the edge of the fitness universe. Two examples that spring to mind: nervous system optimization — check out Z-Health or Feldenkrais — and Active Release Techniques, a sort of targeted massage to cure mobility issues. We're not talking about Operation: Treadstone here, by the way — I'm not proposing anything at all which could compromise the athletes' health. Nor am I endorsing these particular systems — I don't know enough to do that. But I do wonder ... we've got Keith Woolner bringing new-wave mathematics to our statistical analysis. Do we have a mad genius physical therapist studying experimental training techniques? Should we?

I remember a 2006 GQ article that brought up visual perception training for binocularity, back before MLB players started doing that on their handheld Nintendos during bus rides. The scientist behind the system was getting amazing results with a system of ocular testing and training. Then there's a quote [pdf] from none other than John Farrell:

I think [the scientist has] had a tremendous impact on individual players, but the empirical evidence is limited. There isn't a large database that says this person went through these drills and this is where he ended up.

My reaction: So what? Isn't that exactly the sort of chance this organization should be taking? By the time there's a database of empirical evidence, the sun has set on the opportunity to create a competitive advantage. Yes, Farrell's answer demonstrates competence. Is competence enough? (Side note: Still want this guy for manager?)

Even if you're not on-board with this idea of looking for competitive advantage in fitness, I think it must be asked how often Soloff and Maxey have misfired in their more traditional responsibilities, and whether you care how defensible their methods are in light of the results.

To use the most inflammatory example: A slimmed-down Hafner will be "more mobile," hey? Then, on whose watch did he get so big in the first place? What, was he sneaking protein shakes, like a high schooler smoking behind the band trailer? Or how about Jensen Lewis' evaporating velocity act in 2008, passed off as Stomp "leaving something in the tank"? At what point, if not at the start of the season, should we have expected him to be in condition to bring his A-game? June? September? Or, famously, what about Jhonny's deteriorating vision? This guy's defense looked good enough that he beat out Brandon Phillips, and suddenly he starts giving the "olé bulls***" to routine grounders ... and nothing happens until the off-season? I know there's a recovery time for LASIK, but it only takes an afternoon to fit a guy for a pair of RecSpecs. Whose job was it to identify the problems and to get these guys into fighting shape? Who answered for the failure?

For that matter, if I see one common thread in the patented .400-ball Wedge Aprils other than Wedge himself, it's the off-seasons and spring trainings which preceded them. Occam's Razor alone makes me wonder if the problem is at least partly physical -- that our guys just aren't strong enough. You might answer, yeah, but they improve as the season goes on, under the trainers' closer watch. I don't see that as a particularly strong defense. Whose job is it to monitor these guys in the off-season?

Take, for example, Michael Aubrey, who moseyed into Winter Haven a few years ago announcing that he'd spent the off-season doing yoga with his wife. Like most of you, I'm sure, I remember thinking, hmm, that might work. Retroactively, I'm incredulous. Some types of flexibility are good; others, bad. It can be a delicate distinction, by which I mean, not the kind that should be made by some chump in stretch pants making $7 per hour at the Shreveport YMCA. That's doubly true when the body in question is a notably fragile, multi-million-dollar asset. Who, if anyone, signed off on that?

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Not necessarily good for baseball.
via www.jrmillerfitness.com

And I haven't even started on the veritable parade of young Indians pitchers whose skill-levels seem to start falling on the day their contracts get purchased. Willis calls his training staff "proactive." I guess we're supposed to believe that, if a guy who has devoted most of his life to throwing baseballs inexplicably collapses in the bigs, it's a mental thing, or a mechanical thing, or a long-standing injury thing, or an "adjustment" thing. It's certainly not a strength, conditioning, or mobility issue, because the Indians are proactive about that, you see.

Once more: Every single decision made by the Indians' training staff with respect to these players might be perfectly defensible exercise of sound business judgment. But I contend that there are degrees of defensibility. It's possible to make a decision defensibly and, at the same time, to choose poorly.

I took the Progressive Field guided tour last weekend. You don't get to see the weight room anymore, but as we passed the door to it, the tour guide said that the Indians' training facilities are quite possibly the finest of any professional athletic team's in the country. It made me shake my head a little. Maybe, for all the higher a priority physical conditioning is in this organization, for all the discipline and the supervision and the workout-card checking-off and the not-standing-around, they're just not working hard enough. Or smart enough. Or, hey, maybe they're working too hard. Like I said, it's tough to tell, behind all that competence. And I really do believe they're competent.

Is competence enough?

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Rec for research alone. I don’t really know what to say in response to this piece other than it’s something that I could see making it’s way around all the SBN baseball blogs.

Dodgers, Rockies, Giants, Padres and Diamondbacks. Oh my!

by westbrook on Sep 16, 2009 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tyler, I’ve said it already but well done.

I’m not proposing anything at all which could compromise the athletes’ health.

Regarding this, though, and I know we’ve already danced around this maypole for a bit. I find it hard to reconcile this statement in context and then turn around and come down on yoga at the Y. There’s a reason that housewives and mr. moms the world over do yoga at the Y as opposed to playing in a flag football league. It’s safe. Sure, there’s some danger involved, like there is in anything, but for the most part the kind of yoga that Aubrey’s wife was doing for an hour a week is probably not significantly affecting his physique or flexibility.

I mean, I feel like this is on par with saying a guy’s not allowed to go skydiving. What’s the real risk here? Can you honestly say it’s any higher than getting involved Active Release Technique, which I have no reason to believe is particularly dangerous?

Larger point: if we do literally treat their bodies at multi-million dollar assets (which perhaps we should) we should be controlling a whole lot more than just their workout schedules. Diets, offseason routines, hobbies, etc; these are all still areas where, from what I can tell, teams don’t exert much to any control. I’m not sure the Indians are in a position to be the first team to tell Trot Nixon he’s not allowed to hunt anymore. It’s one thing to cherry pick out a questionable fitness choice (yoga) by a fragile guy (Aubrey) but, F it, if we run a risk analysis, isn’t the fact that Grady likes old cars with no airbags just as large a concern?

by afh4 on Sep 16, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As to your more specific point, my understanding of yoga is that it’s safe if you’re in relatively good health and you’ve got a knowledgeable, experienced instructor. Maybe that really was Aubrey’s position that winter; maybe he did clear it with the team first. But at the end of the day it’s primarily a static flexibility and breathing discipline, and, as I said, flexibility’s no cure-all.

Can you honestly say it’s any higher than getting involved Active Release Technique, which I have no reason to believe is particularly dangerous?

Leaning toward “yes,” actually. I’d be surprised if Soloff wasn’t doing at least a little A.R.T. already. But if your comeback is that I’m nobody to make that call, all I can really do is shrug. It’s true; I’m not.

I agree with your larger contention that there’s a line between being a reasonable employer and an unwanted nanny. Moreover, if your reputation was the latter, you’d never get free agents. That’s why I try to frame the issue as a series of basically unanswerable questions — unanswerable by us, anyway. I suppose I could’ve just said, “I hope monitoring off-season activity is part of the Indians’ big internal audit this winter,” and left it at that.

More than anything, I’m irritated with the kind of “oh that’s just an urban legend” attitude encapsulated by Farrell’s quote. The Indians’ party line on training is that they’re the best in the industry. I think it’s fair to ask whether the evidence backs that claim up now as well as it did a few years ago. The follow-up question is, how might the team do better? Can it? That’s really all I’m trying to get at.

by fleerdon on Sep 17, 2009 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No question that it’s a series unanswerable questions. I suppose I’m just generating more.

I do think Farrell’s quote is disheartening and I think it fits into the larger conversation of what’s disheartening about the Indians. Not to quote myself but they ought to be doing everything and anything that they think might generate even a slight competitive advantage and, well, they don’t appear to be. They appear, at times, to be taking the attitude of a far more resourced organization that can rightly be conservative. Again, they’re basically selling CDs out of their trunk but acting like they’re managing a chain of Sam Goodys.

by afh4 on Sep 17, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Again, they’re basically selling CDs out of their trunk but acting like they’re managing a chain of Sam Goodys.

Massive lol.

by joeee on Sep 17, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec’d for the devastatingly precise comparison.

by danvail on Sep 17, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s the best analogy not involving cancer and murder that I’ve read on here in a long time.

Everybody should get ice cream every day.

by junkballer on Sep 17, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Farrell quote is what they should be doing, looking at the mass of evidence, not just trying things based on anecdotal evidence. Are you two bothered by it because you think he’s not telling the truth?

by dgcambridge on Sep 17, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you’ve got something that apparently has little downside and it might have significant upside, it’s the kind of thing the Indians ought to be considering. If there going to wait for a preponderance of evidence that something is effective, they’re not going to be early adopters. And, to win, in my opinion, they must be early adopters.

by afh4 on Sep 17, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re looking at the nano-scale potential for competitive advantage. I know we’ve discussed this – but why bother with minutiae when we get the biggest part of the game – scouting – wrong?

by joeee on Sep 17, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not fix it all? Or at least try to?

by afh4 on Sep 17, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s not that you’re wrong, it just is more of the same time-wasting “asset management” nonsense. It effectively equates this dumb minutiae with stuff that really matters. Some combo of raw scouting, stat interpretation, and coaching are 99% of the battle and we only (for certain) do one of those things well.

Human beings. Maybe it’d be nice if you the employer could control every aspect of your worker’s lives, but you can’t and you probably shouldn’t. Again: locate your fastball first. Other stuff second.

by joeee on Sep 17, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The point for me isn’t that they ought to be focusing on these sorts of things only that they should be approaching everything with a mindset that I’m not seeing in the quotes: “We’re open to it.” The idea that they are waiting around for empirical evidence is ridiculous. Again, I feel like they’ve got to push the curve to a degree that would be impossible if empirical evidence was necessary.

Should they be ignoring all of this to dump resources into scouting? Quite possibly.

by afh4 on Sep 17, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That really isn’t true. You can nail the scouting and coaching, and if you bungle your asset management, your team will still be a disaster.

by Jay on Sep 17, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes… certainly I don’t mean to say the Tribe should allow players to hurt themselves or self-destruct. I’ve just interpreted – rightly or wrongly – FO comments about players as if they’re big shots at Lehman talking knowledgeably about stuff they don’t understand. These guys aren’t Ferrari’s – they’re guys, and all that other stuff just isn’t baseball. Baseball first, Shap & Co.

by joeee on Sep 18, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

jordan brown does not agree with this agenda.

by Brick. on Sep 18, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

early adopter, nano-style:

Dodgers, Rockies, Giants, Padres and Diamondbacks. Oh my!

by westbrook on Sep 17, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that Farrell is exactly right. (I think the idea that his quote should raise questions about his ability to be a successful manager is ridiculous.)

By the above logic, the team should force players to wear crystals to envelope our players in positive energies that will elevate performance. After all, there is little apparent downside, and it might have significant upside.

by Jeffrey R on Sep 17, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I’m not questioning Farrell’s ability, just his philosophy. Everyone seems to want a manager with a fresh perspective. Farrell seems straight out of the Shaponetti Co. factory to me.

Any young child could refute your second point, both because they could tell that’s not what Andrew meant, and also because they’d know crystals are a horrible idea.

by fleerdon on Sep 17, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t care who we hire, I just want Wedge and Skinner outta here. Heck, I’d be fine if Farrell kept Willis and Shelton.

Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO

by westbrook on Sep 17, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not really think out of the box and hire a Gelfling?

"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx

by woodsmeister on Sep 17, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d be wary of anything called active release technique. The players are better off going grouse hunting and painting their houses.

by odradek on Sep 18, 2009 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent post, Tyler… this is the most provocative (or more accurately, thought-provoking) of the Fire Everyone! series so far. That’s in spite of the BJR reference.

On a micro-point, I wonder if we could use these to come to some sort of consensus on the likely cause of the terrible starts.

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Sep 17, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, I cannot stand this nerdy-insistence on the Indians “sweet gear.” Goodyear is the best baseball training facility we can think of. Our medical staff are all freaking geniuses. The weight room is the best in America lol. Take our word for it. What, was everyone in the Indians FO on stage crew in high school?

Look, there is something to the Indians stat prowess. Otherwise we wouldn’t consistently do well in trades – evaluating players based on numbers they’ve already put up. But this talk of fine-tuning diets (“Our players eat the finest Sushi in the midwest”), sucky old-school-scouting and praise-worthy processes bores me. Eat more hot dogs and smoke cigarettes like Vlad Divac for all I care. Just hit homeruns and locate your friggin fastball on the lower-outside corner. Difficult to execute but the concept ain’t that hard.

by joeee on Sep 17, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where’s David Wells when you need him?

by danvail on Sep 17, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As Whitey Herzog suggested, players need to eat rare beefsteaks and pie, and drink more beer. They’re wimps, mollycoddled with the aromatherapists and neural optimizers.

Maybe this is part of the Indians’ culture: believing in the control of every aspect of the game.

by odradek on Sep 17, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Playing with hangovers is good practice for playing hurt.

by odradek on Sep 17, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell, it worked for Mickey Mantle.

by Jay on Sep 17, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And many others.

by odradek on Sep 18, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dock Ellis was better than some of our current starters!

by peter m on Sep 18, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some?

The once and future

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Sep 18, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

David Wells, famously.

by Roger Dorn on Sep 18, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not as many ballplayers smoke nowadays. That could be a factor, too. It worked for Dick Allen and Roger Maris.

by odradek on Sep 20, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here’s an enlightening article on daily conditioning by major leaguers.

by emil minty on Sep 18, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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