Game Thread: September 23, 2009
Detroit Tigers at Cleveland Indians, Sep 23, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Detroit: Cf Granderson, 2B Polanco, RF Thomas, 1B Cabrera, DH Huff, LF Guillen, 3B Inge, C Laird, SS Santiago, P Porcello
Cleveland: LF Brantley, 3B Carroll, SS Cabrera, RF Choo, DH Hafner, 2B Valbuena, C Marson, CF Crowe, 1B Marte, P Masterson
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Hey all, gonna stay for a while, based on the outcome of this ‘game’….
Tribe in 2010!! Maybe.
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions
Not losing a 10th in a row would be swell. Really.
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
Just imagine, 2 years ago today, we clinched the division….
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We were down there at the game. Probably the best baseball game I ever went to. Seems like a very long time ago now.
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I think it’d be awesome to be at a game of that caliber. I’d love to go for there to be a game like that in my lifetime.
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s still saved to out DVR. I’ll always remember our entire section chanting “RAF-FY! RAF-FY!” in that last inning.
CFO of Klezmer
I just bought the video on iTunes to keep it forever!! The closest game I ever attended to that game was the June 1st game against the Tigers when we won 12-11 with a 4 run bottom of the ninth!!
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Why don’t we have any imposing figure in our lineup? /end whining-for now….
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions

Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It made me think of hentai, which I really didn’t want to do.
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by vbc3 on Sep 23, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe they’re horns sprouting from his back.
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Oom. I’m so glad I remembered to tune in.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
It’s kind of like pennance. For something or other. It’s up to each of us to think of what.
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Where’s Salome? I need to tell her the variation on laundry I’m doing. I’m dyeing cloth! :D
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
Ah. I bet some of my neighbors wonder why I will occasionally open my front door and then yell, “Back! BACK, YOU BEASTS!”
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
:D
Of course, since my cats have never attempted to rush the door, they also wonder why I might yell that!
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
What a horrible month. I don’t remember the last time the Indians had such a horrid month.
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
Is THAT why Marte has been relegated to the bench?
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:19 PM EDT reply actions
Okay, so if we keep the Tigers offense in check from this point on, we may still have a chance to lose by only 4 runs.
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions
That is so likely that it is not funny….
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Since Wedge expects to know his fate by the end of the season, the Indians should announce the decision before the last Chicago home game, so the fans can give him a good-bye cheer and the team can go into the last 4 games in Boston without any distractions.
…except the true leader of their team playing catcher for the Red Sox.
That hurt to type, FWIW.
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Good grief, I hope that doesn’t happen!!
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, for selfish reasons, I had hoped that Senor Capitan would have done REALLY badly for the BoSux.
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Vic, but he’s one of THEM now…. He cried when we lost to THEM in 2007, and he cried when he was traded to THEM, but he’s still one of…. can you guess?
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i still feel he is different than lee and cc. they didnt want to stay. victor would have. i can still wish good things on him
Which is why I hold strong distaste/hateful feelings towards that idiot in charge of the front office, you know, the one named Shapiro….
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You would have trouble defending the decision to keep him with actual facts and logic.
The fact that we hate it doesn’t make Shapiro an idiot.
True, however, he didn’t even (To my knowledge) give Vic a chance to say “I’ll take a serious hometown discount to remain a Cleveland Indian”. THAT makes him, in my opinion, and idiot….
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is Justin Masterson, not doing well. Some pitcher that is coming of TJ surgery and…..
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
But it doesn’t make any sense to keep him baseball wise. There’s not room for him in the future. I hated it and still hate it as much as everyone else but sometimes it happens.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Good grief people!! At least we’re talking about something other than the game we’re playing…
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
And Victor’s next contract, even assuming we been able to come to terms with him, was a Hafner contract waiting to happen.
Sorry, I meant to append “than the one we’re stuck with for 3 more years” to that sentence.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but as a DH, Martinez is likely to put up some very ordinary numbers from 2010-2013.
I love the guy as much as anyone, but his career OPS is 836, and he’s at the age when his career OPS probably will never be higher. There is plenty of reason to want him on your team, but not much reason to long for him as a DH as he enters his mid-30s.
Do you feel better about our current DH?
Not trying to pick a fight here, I’m honestly wondering what you expect of him in comparison.
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Maybe Martinez will speak with Papi’s doctor and get him some chemicals with anabolic and age-reversing effects. I predict 130 OPS+ for the rest of his career until Vic makes a Bondsian exit from baseball.
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
The sad fact is that it wouldn’t have mattered. Trading him would still be better than re-signing him.
Our long-term extensions for older players haven’t worked out great, and that’s no accident.
Signing Victor for his age 32-35 seasons was unlikely to be a good move even at a big discount.
Read this, in particular the end part.
I understand the part about not being able to keep him. I’m just frustrated over the combination of our never-ending loosing streak, the fact we can’t beat the TIgers, and the fact that Vic now plays for my second most hated team ever.
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
*losing. See? I’m so upset I can’t even spell anymore…
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The pitching coach said “Are you kidding me? These are the INDIANS!! They can’t beat us!!”
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
remember when it used to feel like travis hafner was going to hit a grand slam every time he had the bases loaded?
I miss 2007 style play!!!!
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I read this as someone shouting a string of nouns, which was amusing… gotta hyphenate, playa.
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
We put the laughter in the word slaughter.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
by USSChoo on Sep 23, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So today I was walking to class and saw in about a 20-second span
– an army guy with a broken left arm
– a blonde with an animal on her backpack
I felt like i was at an AD costume party.
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
Those are for five year olds at the Zoo. This girl is in college?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
FOR BRITISH EYES ONLY
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
mr f
Captain of the SS [DO NOT TRADE] CHOO
by westbrook on Sep 23, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
His grandfather was Sam Dente? That sounds like the setup of a bad joke about spaghetti.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
This is a legit partay… only because he went oppo… when was the last time that happened?
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it bad that I choose to watch a National Geographic special on frog-endangering fungus over tonight’s game? Have I sinned?
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions
How am I going to get through a whole offseason without a Baboo sighting?
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
You can watch all of these great games over again during the offseason via mlb.com’s extensive online archive!
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Be sure to get well acquainted with the limits of the law in whatever elf nation he resides in.
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Well at least their starter has been as equally bad as ours.
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
Yet hasn’t given up as many runs….
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by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
This is true, but only because our offense sucks more than theirs.
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
This is very true!!
Tribe in 2010!! Maybe.
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed, we are expert at runners LOB.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
What the hey, let’s go into our final series against Boston with a 17-game losing streak. Show Victor what he’s been missing out on.
Choo rips off his helmet. "You may have gotten me out, but look at this hair! IT’S PERFECT." - Julie
by Cleveland Indians on Sep 23, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
- Draft pick here we come.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That should have said #1
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m gonna stick with the Buckeyes, Browns and Cavs, none of which can win an important game to save their collective fan bases…
Tribe in 2010!! Maybe.
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Luis "Giant Gonzalez" Valbuena
Glad we have Valbuena hitting after Hafner to knock him in and knock in all those runs. At least there’s one slugger in this lineup.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
OH! I thought it was a cookie. And that made no sense. Now I see. Well yes, Brantley is nice and all, but not exactly a slugger. Certainly no Valbuena.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If I were you I’d stick this Tribe boyfriend in the doghouse for a bit. Just sayin’.
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Oh really. Very really. I also like Zoey Daschanel(sp?), but outside of that I have literally no interest in any other celeb women.
Chugga-chugga chugga-chugga, Choo Choo!
Death Cab for Cutie singer. Postal Service too I think.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Same guy.
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of Frederick Pabst: brewer of ironic beverages.
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m leaving now, I have more important things to do than watch us lose so badly. Have fun y’all…
Tribe in 2010!! Maybe.
by indiansfan20062000 on Sep 23, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
How badly are things going when Gerald Laird gets an infield hit?
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
You mean Gerald “Wheels McQuack” Laird? Owner of thirteen international sprint federation titles?
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
“I need to play more consistently,” Marte said. “When I’m not playing, I lose everything.”
by JRontherim on Sep 23, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Porcello has given up 5 runs in 24 innings against the Indians so far this year.
If we’re going to see this guy 4-5 times a year for years to come, the Indians may
be sick of seeing him well before he is 25.
What are the chances Gosling is on the roster next year?
Please say it aint so.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
You called?

"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Sep 23, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Things that confuse me:
1. Eric Wedge
2. My love for the Indians
3. This game thread
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
I was reflecting earlier: I was basically made into a baseball fan by the Indians’ rise from the cellar in 1995. I grew up in Detroit, and moved to Cleveland in 1983, when I was fourteen years old. If we’d stayed in Detroit a year or so longer, I might have been dragged into baseball fandom by the 1984 Detroit Tigers. I guess, therefore, that we moved at just the right time, all things considered.
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I grew up a fan. Lean times. We ate our catcher’s mitt… and then the catcher. Walked uphill to the games, both ways.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
Fine from now on I’ll type everything anyone says into Google.
bwaahhahhah gets Urban Dictionary. I’ll never have a normal conversation with anyone on here ever again.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Well now you’re just being silly.
Seriously, though, which takes less time? Typing a phrase into a search engine to satisfy your curiosity, or asking people on a message board to explain a phrase to you – people that may not answer for several minutes, if at all?
CFO of Klezmer
I don’t care about time. I actually thought Empire Records was an actual record compnay I didn’t even think I needed to look it up. The point is this has been done. I’m sick of it. I can handle being called a 58 year old man, I can handle a bunch of things but I have explained why I don’t feel the need to google every single thing someone says. Sometimes I want to talk as if we’re actually talking.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
It is standard etiquette on message boards to do your own research, not to ask for everything to be handed to you. Perhaps you are being told to search for your own answers because everyone else is sick of being asked to constantly explain everything?
The needs of the many outweigh the wants of the few.
CFO of Klezmer
Who did what?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy rickshaws, is it only the 7th? This game goes on forever.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
Didn’t expect to like it or even give it a try. Thought CC-A was generally pretty bad on Friends.
HOWEVER.
I also didn’t realize it was Bill Lawrence’s new show. It’s pretty funny, and CC-A is pretty good in it so far.
My Tivo is recording something. I suspect it thinks I’m all cougarish.
I’ve got the age, not the attitude.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
Modern Family got a couple good reviews, that’s the reason ABC was even on my radar tonight. Ed O’Neil plays the family patriarch Jay. So, I’ll try that. I don’t think I’ve gotten into a new show in five years.
I haven’t really liked the new shows yet this season. And honestly, I’m not all that difficult to please! I don’t much care for sitcoms, though.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
I want to see that new Christian Slater show for some reason. Slater is awful, but at the same time, oddly entertaining?
I think I Tivo’d it. I haven’t heard good things.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
I’ve heard it is bad, but in the entertaining sit back and enjoy it kind of way. I’ll give it an episode or two. I judge shows and give up on them too quickly. I watched the pilot for Slater’s last show, My Own Worst Enemy. Some day I plan to watch more. They’re all on hulu.
I’ve seen a couple of episodes.
If something is wildly popular and influential, chances are I’ve never seen it. I don’t know how I manage to be that out of touch, but I do.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
I’ve never seen a full episode of it, but have seen every episode, and own every episode, of Seinfeld. I choose my side and stick to it.
I don’t know how influential it was. It was solidly respected within the industry, I know that much, but mostly it influenced format copycats that were pretty much all terrible.
It has catch phrases that are in wide use. Stuff like that.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
> CC-C?
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
THE
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
AIR
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Sep 23, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
See, this whole thing has been part of the problem this season. The Indians can’t get anything right, and people here deliberately sabotage just about the only team-building meme we’ve ever had. Why? Why?
If you tip over, I promise I’ll catch you.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
We take our cues from the team we follow.
"But people are stupid, and their memories are short." - FredOx
by woodsmeister on Sep 23, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
at what, exactly? laffey has been better at pitching poorly, so there’s that…it’s all about how you frame it.
by DontCallMeJoey on Sep 23, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
What a horrible poll, having to choose a best pitcher is like having to choose a best plague.
Oh sure. But this is drunk logic. Also, time-traveling potatoes.--AngG
If I were a Norwegian immigrant being introduced to the American Pastime of Baseball by watching this game, I might walk away thinking that Carlos Guillen is the champion of this strange and exotic sport.
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
Hello Jerry!
My uncle says you've got a screw loose.
Your uncle molests collies.
by gorilla_baller on Sep 23, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Just gotta have faith.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey everyone. I’m sorry I got upset earlier. I’m taking a break from this for awhile. I don’t know how long awhile is. I know no one meant anything. Just letting you know there aren’t any hard feelings.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
only a maximum of 11 losses left in the season
by palcal on Sep 23, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

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