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Game 134: Indians 5, Twins 2



After getting swept in Detroit, the Indians continued to help the Tigers' AL Central hopes tonight by defeating their closest competitor.

Jeremy Sowers pitched one of his cleanest games of the year, allowing 2 earned runs on seven base runners (6 hits, 0 walks, 1 HBP) in six innings. Jeremy's pitching this month for a spot on next year's roster, whether it be in the rotation of in the bullpen. The Indians can't option out Sowers any more, so that means if he doesn't make the 25-man roster next season, he'll probably be in somebody else's organization. Before the All-Star Break, it looked like there was no way Sowers would be part of the 2010 Indians. But since the break, Sowers has a 3.71 ERA in 7 starts (not including tonight), and for the first time since his initial stint in the majors looks like a viable major-league starter.

Before tonight's game, it was announced that Grady Sizemore would undergo season-ending surgery. Not only on his elbow, but also on his groin. The groin problem explains why Sizemore hasn't run much this season, and had to have an adverse effect on his defense. And frankly, that Sizemore managed to hit .248/.343/.445 while playing a very demanding defensive position is amazing.

Michael Brantley will fill in for Grady both in center field and the leadoff spot. Brantley, at least at this stage of his career, is a much different hitter than Sizemore, but he's impressed me all the same in his few major-league at-bats. In the sixth, he did a great job of inside-outing a Carl Pavano pitch to drive in a run with two outs. 

Kelly Shoppach, on the other hand, has looked terrible recently (.192/.302/.365 in August). He struck out three times tonight, all on swings and misses. He'll probably be losing playing time to Lou Marson after the AAA season ends, and although I think the Indians should keep him around another year, if they feel that Marson and Wyatt Toregas can hold down the fort until Carlos Santana is ready, then he's very expendable.

Next Up: Baker vs. Masterson, 4:10 PM

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Highest WPA Lowest WPA
Jeremy Sowers .145 Kelly Shoppach -.076
Jamey Carroll .124 Matt LaPorta -.073
Travis Hafner .107 Andy Marte -.069

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So … how do we think he got that groin injury?

by Jay on Sep 4, 2009 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure this is a joke but someone in the other thread made the point that Sizemore was kept out of the WBC with a groin.

by NickFantana on Sep 5, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was me. From February 27:

GOODYEAR, Ariz. (AP) — Cleveland Indians All-Star center fielder Grady Sizemore will not play for Team USA in the World Baseball Classic because of soreness in his left groin. The injury has been bothering Sizemore for about a week and he had been considering not playing in the WBC. He was scheduled to leave training camp with Indians third baseman Mark DeRosa on Sunday and join the American team in Clearwater, Fla.

Castrovince yesterday:

Not only will Sizemore have the season-ending arthroscopic surgery on his left elbow that has been prescribed for months, he will also have a second procedure performed to address what Soloff referred to as an “athletic pubalgia,” or an unstable abdominal wall, on Sizemore’s left side. Long story short and medical mumbo jumbo aside, the left groin pull that precluded Sizemore from participating in the World Baseball Classic during Spring Training never fully healed, and he’ll require surgery to fix it.

by odradek on Sep 5, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sowers will never have a future as a starting pitcher on this team, unless he undergoes a Cliff Lee-like metamorphosis.

by Joe. on Sep 4, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

So, he has to develop #1 stuff and numbers or he is a off the team?

Paul Byrd pitched almost three seasons on this team with worse stuff than Jeremy. Defending Sowers is a losers game .. but let’s not pretend that Jeremy couldn’t easily be a 4/5 for the next few years.

by Toxicadam on Sep 5, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless he changes the way he is pitching, an under 5 ERA won’t be sustainable.

by Joe. on Sep 5, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

What is making you say that? Is it something specific to Sowers or something you are gleaning from his peripherals?

by fwembt on Sep 5, 2009 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think there’s a possibility he may be in the process of it. He looked sharp tonight. The Twins are a good offense, vulnerable to lefties (ninth in the AL in OPS versus lefthanded pitching). Still, his pitches look sharp and he didn’t seem so scared on the mound.

by odradek on Sep 5, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sowers really impressed me tonight.

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Sep 5, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like he made it almost 3 times through the Minnesota lineup, tonight. That’s certainly a positive sign.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Sep 5, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

He threw 25 pitches in his last inning. Most nights he would have fallen apart, but tonight he worked through it.

by odradek on Sep 5, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean I certainly wouldn’t mind trying him as a RP. Could be a good LOOGY.

by Joe. on Sep 5, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have trouble seeing him as a LOOGY

Everybody should get ice cream every day.

by junkballer on Sep 5, 2009 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Until someone else emerges as a better starter, I have no problem with Sowers in there. 4.40ish ERA since May, I’ll take it.

by supermarioelia on Sep 5, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great draft pick.

by fleerdon on Sep 5, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually 4.12 over his last two callups, dating back to a five-inning relief outing on May 25 and 16 starts since.

by Jay on Sep 5, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well yea, it’s not like the team has better options at the current moment. But I kind of think the team will next year. A rotation of Carrasco, Laffey, Carmona, Westbrook (he’ll be fine by spring trianing right?), and Rondon would be perfect for me.

by Joe. on Sep 5, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s going to be enough young arms throwing next year that there’s bound to be some games where Carrasco or Laffey or Huff or even Fausto or Carmona can’t make it out of the 3rd or 4th inning. Let Sowers spot start and come in for games like that. I liken him to Chad Ogea a little bit. A fringe starter who has value in a long role as well.

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Your uncle molests collies.

by gorilla_baller on Sep 5, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoppach looked absolutely horrific tonight. I believe Pavano’s first 8 pitches to him were all balls out of the strike zone that he swung at. And 7 of them were pretty much in the exact same spot – about a half foot off the outside edge. When Mauer came out to talk to him after Kelly actually foul tipped one, I said to my friends “He probably went out there to tell him that one was a little too close to the strike zone.”

This is Victor's home. Victor Jose, you too.

by westbrook on Sep 5, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions  

He was just murdering Kelly with that little cutter/slider off the outer edge. The way he was swinging, it looked like he wasn’t recognizing that the pitch wasn’t a fastball until it was too late to make contact. Come to think of it, that’s always how Kelly looks when he’s going poorly.

Everybody should get ice cream every day.

by junkballer on Sep 5, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t recognize pitches because he’s pretty much a complete guess-hitter.

by TribeJay on Sep 5, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen/heard something about this, or are you just basing this statement on the Rheems of evidence he provides when he’s at the plate?

Everybody should get ice cream every day.

by junkballer on Sep 5, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just from watching him a lot. Observationally, he’s more prone to chase the breaking ball off the plate or get caught looking at a fastball than anyone else on team.

Nice word usage. ;)

by TribeJay on Sep 5, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good point, you beat me to it. I think last night is the perfect example why, if people watch a lot of games, you probably tend to underrate Shoppach. He has stretches like this that are just not major-league quality. That was ridiculous last night. If you just watch from afar and look at the overall numbers, they’re not bad. But if you watch him, you see enough of these stretches that make you not want to watch him. This also might explain some of the sporadic playing time we’ve seen since the Victor trade.

by TribeJay on Sep 5, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Despite being swept by Detroit this week, the Indians still have the best AL Central record since the All-Star break (by.001)

by palcal on Sep 5, 2009 2:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Sowers is positioning himself to have a rotation spot going into 2010 spring training. That Huff, Carrasco, Rondon et al. can all be cultivated in Columbus only seems to make this more likely.

by APV on Sep 5, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d rather Carrasco and Rondon be “cultivated” on the big league roster. They’re both ready in my opinion and any more time in AAA is a waste of innings pitched before either gets injured.

by hans on Sep 6, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if you have those two guys on the big league roster it most likely means you don’t have a guy like Sowers at all, as he is out of options. Given that expectations for contending next year are minimal (according to the FO), I think you want to keep as many pieces around as possible. I have little doubt Carrasco and Rondon will get significant major league time next season. Keep in mind, if Westbrook is healthy and successful he’ll be a mid-season trading chip.

by APV on Sep 6, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

hans would rather we just release Westbrook now, so that Rondon can be cultivated on the big-league roster.

by Jay on Sep 6, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

As stated before by me, I’m in agreement with a few of the above posts. As long as Sowers pitches decently the remainder of the year and in the spring, there’s no reason why he shouldn’t open 2010 as the fifth starter (assuming Westbrook is healthy), with Huff, Carrasco, and Rondon as 6-8 (not necessarily in that order).

His BA against is .268 in 107 innings. This is his second sustained stretch of showing some ability to be not nearly as hittable as everyone thinks he is. I’m getting more and more convinced that it’s not all luck and there’s at least some ability there.

That said, his margin for error is slim. If he has a drop in velocity (2007), he can’t survive. If he struggles with command (2008), he’s not effective. But if he pounds the zone, he has a chance. He does need to lower the walk total (almost zero, right Stuart?). And I thought he got tentative in the middle innings last night, and that almost cost him.

Last night was striking in comparison to Carrasco’s start. Sowers retired the first nine hitters with mostly fastballs. He struck out Morneau on a breaking ball, but I think most of the other balls put in play were on the fastball. And none of them were hit hard. Sowers has that extra life at the end of his fastball, and when he commands it well, hitters have a tougher time squaring it up. Conversely, Carrasco got to his 13th hitter before someone finally didn’t square him up.

Coming into the year, I thought any chance Sowers had in succeeding would probably be in the NL. And even after what we’ve seen this year, I’d still probably guess that he’s more likely to fail than succeed as an AL starter. But as I discussed with Jay last week, the Tribe should exhaust all possibilities of seeing if he can do it before they cut him loose.

by TribeJay on Sep 5, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This sounds right to me. He definitely seems to be keep people off his fastball more effectively this year with his slider and change. I do really hope the organization barks it into Sowers head to get into a serious off-seaso conditioning program. It is still striking to me how slight Sowers looks relative to his peers.

by APV on Sep 5, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is still striking to me how slight Sowers looks relative to his peers.

At least Sowers will be built like one of his peers next year, with them waiting so long to shut Grady down.

Everybody should get ice cream every day.

by junkballer on Sep 5, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now THAT’S a scary thought…

by TribeJay on Sep 5, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

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