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2010 Top Prospects: The High Performing Pitchers

This is the third installment of the 2010 Top Prospects series (Prequel and Down and Out being the first two).  In this one I want to review the Indians best performing pitching prospects.  This isn't a list of the Indians best pitching prospects, but instead simply those that performed like top prospects in 2010.  Jason Knapp is one of Cleveland's top pitching prospects, but the 28 innings he pitched between rookie ball and low-A in 2010 don't really tell you that.  Hector Rondon, Alexander Perez and Kelvin De La Cruz are also legitimate prospects, but as reviewed in the last piece of the series, they didn't perform as such in 2010.  Indeed, the Indians list of top performing pitchers will be brief; Alex White, Joe Gardner and Matt Packer (and Giovany Soto!).  There is a lot more talent in the system than that, as I'll comment about at the end and in the next installment, but from a strict performance perspective this year was terrible for Cleveland pitchers.

Alex White (21.8, AA)

Alex White
IP
FIP
ERA
BB%
K%
GB%
PS
Net
2010
150.2
3.80
2.46
7.4
18.8
55.5
7.81
+20

 

White, Cleveland's 2009 top draft pick, had a successful debut season.  He started in Kinston, but was promoted to Akron after less than 50 innings of work.  His performance, did not suffer, though it did change somewhat following the promotion.  White was healthy, got lots of groundballs, and did a decent job of doing the positive thing well.  His K numbers are not terribly impressive on the surface, but recall that the Indians had White try a couple of different approaches this season.  His first 8 starts in Akron were great (ERA <1.80), but he was succeeding by inducing a lot of weak contact.  Told to use his pitches differently, he came back with four straight starts in July with 7, 7, 7, and 8 Ks (with just 3 walks).  I think this bodes well for translating his stuff to higher levels.  He has swing and miss capabilities, even if he is not projected as a real top of the rotation starter.

Joseph Gardner (22.3, A+)

Joe Gardner
IP
FIP
ERA
BB%
K%
GB%
PS
Net
2010
147.1
3.65
2.75
10.2
23.4
69.0
7.24
+49

 

As White's rookie classmate, Joe Gardner came into the season with a much smaller spotlight on him.  He quickly changed that by destroying Lake County for 25 innings (while getting nearly 3/4 of his outs on Ks or GBs).  His success didn't really tail off at Kinston, though his strikeout rate did settle down to something merely in the "very good" range.  In writing about him mid-season, Kevin Goldstein said the following:

Gardner's been displaying one of the best sinkers in the minor leagues, a 90-94 mph bowling ball that gets swings and misses as often as in generates groundballs. In 98 innings across Low- and High-A, the big righty has whiffed 111 while giving up just 65 hits, and scouts are wondering how he lasted until the third round of last year's draft.

He also noted that Gardner's sinker might be his "best pitch by a mile" raising questions about his ability to maintain his success at higher levels.  But the Indians seem pretty good at working that pitch in particular.  It might be tempting to want the minor leaguer with the best slider in the minors, a pitch likely to generate much more impressive swing and miss totals, but don't the sinker-pitchers seem like a more durable bunch?  2011 will be Gardner's chance to show he can get out higher level guys in Akron.

Matt Packer (22.8, AA)

Matt Packer
IP
FIP
ERA
BB%
K%
GB%
PS
Net
2010
132.2
3.00
2.04
4.2
23.7
62.0
6.88
+69

 

Another 2009 draftee, although in this case a far lower profile choice (32nd round), Packer had the most statistically impressive season of any Indians pitcher.  Good K-rates, excellent BB-rates and GB numbers.  Packer's steady domination of low-A hitters led to his late season promotion straight to Akron.  The decision to bypass Kinston altogether may reflect Packer's slightly older age, but it also suggests how impressive his performance at Lake County was.  While his numbers declined somewhat in his 37 innings at Akron, he still performed like a good pitcher.  Presumably Packer will form part of the top end of Akron's rotation at the start of 2011 with the chance of establishing himself as a legitimate starting pitching prospect.

Giovany Soto (19.2, A)

G Soto
IP
FIP
ERA
BB%
K%
GB%
PS
Net
2010
113.2
3.80
2.93
7.8
23.1
57.0
7.64
+42

 

The gifts of Jhonny Peralta never stop.  Soto is young and still low in the system, but prior to joining Lake County's rotation was having an excellent season.  Good peripherals all around, and hopefully a lot of projection for future growth.  Should be at the top of Kinston's rotation, perhaps with Pomeranz, to start next season.

The Indians have a lot more pitching talent than this, and in the next part of this series I'll talk about a lot of it.  But for 2010, these four were really it amongst the starters.  I fully expect Drew Pomeranz, who hasn't thrown an inning of professional ball, to show up as the top pitching prospect, if not the top organizational prospect, on nearly every off-season list.  I don't think that should be a discouraging sign. Last year I had to divide the Indians top pitchers across two lists there were so many of them.  There will be a second list in a few weeks with a lot more names now, but it is also worth looking at what happened to all those guys.

Star-divide

Of last year's top pitchers, Carrasco, Gomez, Tomlin, Talbot and Herrmann all made successful contributions to Cleveland.  It is far from certain how much of an impact these guys will have going forward, but that is a pretty successful conversion rate.  Rondon, Perez and Knapp were all felled or limited by injury.  Injuries to young pitchers happen all the time, of course, but not always to three of the top 5 pitchers in an organization at the same time.  That is a tough blow. 

A large group of other guys are still hanging around the fringes...Todd, House, Espino, Price, Hagadone, Barnes, Judy, Putnam, CC Lee, Cook, Stowell, Pestano and Bryson.  Aside from a few of the relievers, none of this group took big steps forward.  But they also did not take major steps back, and are all guys to watch for next season.  Barnes, in particular, is a guy I have a lot of optimism for going forward.

And of course there were organization additions like Kluber and McAllister.  And recent draftees like Austin Adams, Brett Brach and Preston Guilmet.  And young international prospects like Felix Sterling and Takafumi Nakamura. 

All is not lost.

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I think our rotation next year should be Carmona, Talbot, Masterton, Carrasco, and maybe a veteran we pick up or Gomez. I really hope we see Alex White this year. Expecting another long season

by danmang on Nov 7, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Excluding an acquisition from out of the organization, the only new names I’d expect to see in the rotation mix during the first half of the season would be Zach McAllister. Other than that, it is the five you mention, plus Huff and maybe a guy like Anthony Reyes.

by APV on Nov 7, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Talbot is one of the five best major-league-ready starters on this club, and he’s earned a spot for 2011, but I’m not going to be surprised if his ERA next season is over 5.00.

by xrickx on Nov 7, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Omission...

I need to add Giovanni Soto to the above list. He struggled somewhat in Lake County, but had a great season for West Michigan prior to joining the organization.

by APV on Nov 7, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

Also worth noting that all four of these guys were essentially new to the organization this season

by APV on Nov 7, 2010 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Callis of BA on Packer:


He’s a prospect but not enough to make top 10. @Nick_Kruger: do you think matt packer will break into the #indians top ten? he’s a beast

by afh4 on Nov 7, 2010 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Packer needs to prove himself at a higher level. If he can put up numbers like this at AA next year, then he’ll be talked about as a prospect.

by APV on Nov 7, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I also think Stowell should be on this list, despite reliever status. 3 levels, 102 Ks in less than 70 IP. I think he’s got a chance to make the bullpen if he performs well in ST.

by afh4 on Nov 7, 2010 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

I made the decision not to include any relievers. Pestano (31.8% k-rate, 6.6% bb-rate, 53% GBs, +51 Net) and Cory Burns (36.5% k-rate, 6.3% bb-rate, 58% GBs, +56 Net) actually grades out as having the best numbers , but Stowell does have the insane K-rate (37.4%, +48 Net). Rob Bryson (36.7% k-rate, +42 Net) is right there, too. When I said it was a terrible year for the Indians pitching, I really meant starting pitching. Tom Mastny has forever ruined me on getting too excited about relievers. Were I to get excited about relievers, there are a lot of options in the system now.

by APV on Nov 7, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The list of crazy relief numbers is actually pretty never-ending. You can add Tyler Sturdevant (35.1% k-rate, 7.3% bb-rate, +58 Net) and Preston Guilmet (39.5% k-rate, 5.0% bb-rate, +54 Net), too.

by APV on Nov 7, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

And Jose Flores (31.3% k-rate, 4.3% bb-rate, +36 Net)

by APV on Nov 7, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Stowell throws some heat too, we haven’t developed a ton of those guys of late.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 7, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Mastny and Fernando Cabrera. Oh, the heartbreak.

by ken from alexandria on Nov 11, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to see Barnes leading the AFL with 21 Ks (against 4 walks).

by dgcambridge on Nov 8, 2010 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Barnes will be in the next write-up (along with about a dozen other guys). As I said, I’m optimistic about Barnes. He held his own in his first full season at the AA level, but ran into problems with HRs and BBs (particularly towards the end of the season). But he showed flashes of his potential with a few dominant outings throughout the season. I hope he starts 2011 in Columbus. His strong AFL showing shouldn’t hurt.

by APV on Nov 8, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

On a related note, I absent-mindedly typed “Nobody Barnes” into Baseball Reference today. I blame all of you.

Also, Kipnis with two triples today. He refuses to hit singles in Arizona.

by dgcambridge on Nov 8, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody Barnes > Cracker Graham

by APV on Nov 8, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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