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I didn't look at Professor Bukiet's methodology."Bukiet also applies his mathematical modeling to gambling, in particular for understanding baseball and cricket. He posts his analysis online at www.egrandslam.com."

He's a Mets fan, so his modeling must be suspect.

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He’s a Mets fan, so his modeling must be suspect.

Not necessarily, it just means he probably overpays for everything

by APV on Mar 10, 2010 7:31 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Predicted 88 wins and first place last season.

by Jay on Mar 10, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

That’s a real bummer. If he’s off by approx. the same percentage this season, that means we’ll finish with about 50 wins and probably in last place.

I’m not emotional about iPad...

by JimmyAB on Mar 10, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn’t mean he has to be off in the same direction. Hooray blind, unfounded optimism!

Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...

by USSChoo on Mar 10, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

The 2011 draft class looks to be very good though.

There’s always a silver lining.

by JP_Frost on Mar 10, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably never played a game of baseball in his life. Which means the opposite of what he says is true…or something.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 10, 2010 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

Careful that may get you a http://www.RogerDorn.com/

I could really use an oscillation overthruster

by stuart dean on Mar 10, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

http://www.FireRogerDorn.com/

I could really use an oscillation overthruster

by stuart dean on Mar 10, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

well, ok.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 10, 2010 8:49 PM EST reply actions  

My models have it at 70-92.

by JulioBernazard on Mar 10, 2010 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

I have us at 81-80-1(t).

by jhon on Mar 10, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re not on pace for 162-0?

Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...

by USSChoo on Mar 10, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I am thinking low 80’s as well.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 11, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

What do we think the chances are that 85 or 86 gets it done in the Central this year?

Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...

by USSChoo on Mar 11, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like the Sox can pass 90. Don’t ask me why.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Mar 11, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Did Professor Bukiet mention that it’s the journey and not the destination? Of course not, it’s a gambling site. Everything can be reduced to the opportunity to win bets.

by elsandito on Mar 10, 2010 10:48 PM EST reply actions  

Does the intent and purpose of his modeling mean his predictions are inferior to CHONE? And what is the raison d’etre of PECOTA? Would you be so dismissive if he predicted 90 wins?

Besides, Bukiet says he does it for the kids, to show them how math can be fun. That’s what it says.

by odradek on Mar 10, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

In fact, I am dismissive of each of these models that tries to predict a season’s outcome. Additionally, I take a dim view of fantasy league mentality. The elevation of individual achievement on team sports partially neutralizes the message of team.

by elsandito on Mar 11, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you on both predictive models and fantasy-league mentality. I don’t understand the obsession with predicting winners in baseball, or focusing on models for future performance. It’s something to keep us occupied with in winter, but who cares, really? Nate Silver did create fivethirtyeight.com, so something worthy proceeded from it.

And you’re right about the journey. Who would want to fast-forward to Halloween to see the Yankees romping on their field, again?

by odradek on Mar 11, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Who would want to fast-forward to Halloween to see the Yankees romping on their field, again?

Excellent application of dour bile, though I know, I know, it’s only ST.

by YoDaddyWags on Mar 11, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t fivethirtyeight doing the same thing that Silver was doing with BP in a sense?

Your attitude could be, “I don’t get predicting elections in non-election years, who really cares? What’s the obsession with knowing who will be the president ahead of when it actually happens?”

by Roger Dorn on Mar 11, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

(my point is not to equate baseball and politics)

by Roger Dorn on Mar 11, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I kind of agree with that, but Silver has contributed greatly to political science. His models can be used to win elections, no?

by odradek on Mar 11, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but I also find value in baseball predictive models. I think what Silver has given to politics was inevitable, but am still impressed with the way he has taken the political scene by storm.

by Roger Dorn on Mar 11, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Math cannot be fun. Ever.

by fwembt on Mar 11, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you obviously don’t know enough math.

by Buckeye Brad on Mar 12, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like this is the cue for a schoolhouserocks musical.

by joeee on Mar 12, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF?! I feel dumber by acknowledging this this. It reminds me of all the Yankee rapport I hear every EFFIN DAY!!!

Baseball fans are junkies, and their heroin is the statistic. - Robert S. Wieder

by jerseywahoo on Mar 11, 2010 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

Seems right to me. The only thing that will bum me out on the 2010 season is going 59-103 or something like that. That means a lot of things went REALLY wrong.

by Toxicadam on Mar 11, 2010 12:22 AM EST reply actions  

I think finishing at 48-56 would mean that something went REALLY wrong.

by Chemo on Mar 11, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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