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No surprises. Santana, Rondon, Weglarz, Rivero, Gomez and Brown sent down. Beau Mills reassigned to minor league camp (not on the 40-man roster).

Feel free to use this as today's split-squad (both at 4:05) gamethread.

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Carlos Rivero looked much better defensively than I expected. He made several really tough plays look very smooth, and showed off a plus arm. The knock on him defensively was avg range, but he got to balls Jhonny never did to both sides.

Chiz also impressed me in the field, very smooth to both sides with a strong arm – that will be quite an Akron IF with Cord Phelps at 2B.

Donald looks very good at SS too – lots to like.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought cord phelps was traded to the whitesox

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was [Josh] Phelps to CWS, but in either case the news certainly did send shockwaves around here.

by jhon on Mar 20, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, jhon. You missed the inside joke/sarc tag somewhere.

STBNL

by emd2k3 on Mar 20, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly did not.

I know the drill by now. I can’t wait for Palcal’s trend recaps to trail an actual Gamethread again.

by jhon on Mar 21, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree about Rivero. He is definitely not small, but he looked smooth and has a great arm. I’m sure his range is an issue, but I didn’t get the sense he won’t be able to stick at SS, a la Peralta.

by APV on Mar 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just liked the way he looked out there, too. Very comfortable. For some reason he reminded me of Vic.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed…now about that hitting thing…

by TribeJay on Mar 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s looked pretty good at the plate too, and last year as usual finished up strong, and took that into the AFL.

Last year was widely regarded as a down year for him, but following him at Akron, he actually improved his relative BB/K rates from the previous year, which I found encouraging.

But yeah, he should handle AA pitching a lot better this year. If he can’t, it’s a big red flag.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peralta was a pretty good shortstop until he was 24 or so (and a multi-millionaire). The front office felt from the start that, whatever they were giving up in range as compared with BP, they were more than getting back in overall consistency and throwing ability.

As you well know, I have always groused (and even railed) about what I feel is unsubstantiated presumptions about Rivero’s body and quality of defense. Actual first-hand accounts have always been highly positive about his defense, and the negative comments have always been random asides about his Ripkenesque build — not about his actual play.

So I’m not the least bit surprised that he’s been looking like he plays a good shortstop, because that’s what every scouting report has said about his actual play. Does that mean that his body won’t outgrow the position eventually? No, but let’s be clear — the doubts are only about his body, not about the way he plays shortstop with that body.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Law talked about this on insider the other day. I believe he said that if he had a gun to his head, he would put both Rivero’s glove and arm at 70.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty high praise. I guess that explains it – none of the scouts over the last couple years had guns to their heads.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems like more teams should be doing this.

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he said that if he had to grade him on the basis of that one game, that’s what he would do. Just a reflection on the plays he made on that day.

by TribeJay on Mar 19, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marte with the grandslam off of McCarthy in the first inning.

by macasson on Mar 19, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

2 HR (team lead!) and 8 RBI on the spring

by macasson on Mar 19, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

where did he hit it, out of curiosity?

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

wish i knew, just saw it in the boxscore. don’t even know what the pitch was … or the count for that matter.

by macasson on Mar 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could it possibly be anywhere but LF? :)

by TribeJay on Mar 19, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s why I asked!

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, I pulled up gameday: homer to left field on a 91 mph fastball with an 0-1 count.

by TribeJay on Mar 19, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

and on the inside corner…

by TribeJay on Mar 19, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool, thanks.

was hoping it was to right center, but hey

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure that would be a first.

I remember him hitting a tie-breaking homer to dead center in Toronto (prob 2006), but never anything deep to the right of center.

by TribeJay on Mar 19, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that as, “Where did he hit it? Out of curiousity?” I laughed out loud. I was disappointed to reread it and find out you were actually curious, and not making a joke.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Mar 19, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty idle curiosity, I’ll grant you. But Marte did show power to the opposite field last year in Columbus.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s really amazing how this guy has won our hearts

by macasson on Mar 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is awesome. team lead!

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad people read the 6-pack

by APV on Mar 19, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

YES

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-0 against Masterson already. 3 hits and a walk (1 CS).

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I can’t decide what game to listen to.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson gets DeRosa K’d on a swinging strike at a slider.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

If anyone’s worried about Masterson’s socks, they’re still high.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I sincerely wish all players would breech their pants. I think 65% of the reason Barry Zito always appealed to me was seeing him in high green socks with yellow stirrups when he played for Oakland.

it always starts the same, with a boy and a girl and a hook and a game

by ameliorate on Mar 19, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Masterson gives up another run.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I was pretty proud of this.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

i saw that, now that i’m part of the twitterazzi

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a true classic of the genre, for whatever that’s worth. I see this possibly making it into a tweet anthology.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better save it while you can. Tweets are now lasting only 3 months before fading away …

STBNL

by emd2k3 on Mar 19, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Masterson with another K.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

mlb.com is behind, what’s his line look like?

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not paying that much attention. I think he’s gave up 3 in the first.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the impression I got from the comments here. Oh, well… be back in a bit.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

(the impression was not “Andrew isn’t paying attention” by the way, it was “3 runs”)

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was Juan Uribe, though. I feel like that counts for less.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laffey K’s Borbon.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Laffey gets Andrus to groundout.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoever is in the Texas booth as a guest needs to learn to use a microphone.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Laffey gets a swinging strike 3 on David Murphy with a change.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Marson grounds out and Jonathan Sanchez gets a 1-2-3 second.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

The Indians apparently made Brandon McCarthy throw 42 pitches in the first.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

25% of them to Toregas.

by FredOx on Mar 19, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brantley gets a groundball single into RF.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Brantley got cut down trying to steal 2nd. By Saltalamacchia.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Anderson Hernandez just struck out looking.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

andrew’s updates are appreciated by brick

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Like how I’m updating two games at once?

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m impressed. if not a little confused. but it doesn’t matter they way you’re doing it – and because, it’s spring

by Brick. on Mar 19, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Giants have runners at corners. Velez just reached when he went up the middle, Masterson knocked it down, and everyone was safe.

Masterson went SDSU apparently.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you know Chilli Davis was a native Jamaican?

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Velez steals second without a throw on Masterson/Marson.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

How can anyone not hate Wisconsin basketball.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Final winning score in a Wisconsin-Notre Dame game: over 50?

by FredOx on Mar 19, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t know because I would turn it off.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson K’s Renteria on a curve ball, swinging.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently my favorite non-Indians player, Pablo Sandoval was pulled after going 1st to 3rd or something. Assumedly pulled for oxygen. Get well soon, Kung Fu.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Fransden just got an RBI off of Masterson by hitting a dribbler 70 feet and it not going foul.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Another GB hit for the Giants. Masterson is getting screwed.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nagy is the coach in the SF match. He’s out to talk to JMast. Going to the Texas game.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Alrighty – listening to the Texas game. Apparently the audo is free today but wasn’t yesterday.

McCarthy pitching to Marte right now.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

GS “well over the Cleveland bullpen in left”

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Marte flies out on a 2-2 count

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Masterson K’s on a bunt. Taste of his own medicine.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Home run for S Duncan. Tied for second!

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Astro draws a walk.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

20-30 seasons? Talk about arbitrary cherrypicking.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Grady drives in the lesser extent.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

The Door drives in Droobs.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

LaPorta with an RBI single.

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

“Peralta, a young powerful Indian”

Maybe he can be named Chief soon.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Grady scores. 5-3.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Giants guy just said Kearns would probably make the club??!

by afh4 on Mar 19, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Laffey with a 1-hitter thru 3. Unsurprisingly, it was an infield hit and Laff got a DP after it.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Vlad doubles off of Laffey.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

“A great group to watch take BP”

yea, that’s worth the price of admision.

Chris Davis brings in Vlad. Laffey up 3-1.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Check that, 5-1.

... Paul Hoynes is a really great guy ...

by westbrook on Mar 19, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. Through three innings, Masterson gave up 5 runs, and threw just 29 pitches. 25 strikes, 4 balls.

by Matt Y. on Mar 19, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t think so. Are you looking at Gameday? Their pitch counts aren’t accurate in ST. All Ks are 3 pitch Ks, for example.

by dgcambridge on Mar 19, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was looking at Gameday, yes.

by Matt Y. on Mar 19, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like I missed quite Partay. Man I love that guy.

by supermarioelia on Mar 19, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Bruce D. says Marte is not going to make the roster. Crowe is in and Grudz was a great pick-up.

I’m not emotional about iPad...

by JimmyAB on Mar 19, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marte says that Bruce D. is not going to make the roster.

by ShawnK on Mar 19, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the whole betting on baseball thing sort of makes that a given. Not a very big stretch for Marte to make that call…

I’m not emotional about iPad...

by JimmyAB on Mar 19, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the source:

I’ll wait until the 25-man is officially announced.

by supermarioelia on Mar 19, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had the post game feed on and had to turn it off right after he made that proclamation…

I’m not emotional about iPad...

by JimmyAB on Mar 19, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny, never noticed before how much he looks like Glenn Beck.

by Jay on Mar 19, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bunny ears, right?

I’m not emotional about iPad...

by JimmyAB on Mar 19, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe thats why I hate him.

by GoTribe028 on Mar 19, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t cry nearly enough.

STBNL

by emd2k3 on Mar 19, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, more people watch Glenn Beck.

Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...

by USSChoo on Mar 22, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are we getting close to <deleted, politics>?

STBNL

by emd2k3 on Mar 22, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not politics, he’s stupidity.

Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...

by USSChoo on Mar 22, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce D sucks.

STBNL

by emd2k3 on Mar 19, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

KC is really pouring it on against ARZ. Twenty-four hits through 5 innings resulting in 21 runs so far. Mercy rules please.

I’m not emotional about iPad...

by JimmyAB on Mar 19, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, being a Royals fan must be like getting slowly beaten to death. I say slowly, because occasionally they get breaks from the suck and do things like this.

it always starts the same, with a boy and a girl and a hook and a game

by ameliorate on Mar 19, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if ST provides the high points of a season things are pretty, pretty bad.

I’m not emotional about iPad...

by JimmyAB on Mar 19, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sending Greinke out every few days is like blocking a blow.

it always starts the same, with a boy and a girl and a hook and a game

by ameliorate on Mar 19, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marte leading the Indians in plate appearances so far this spring, hitting .286/.382/.607

by supermarioelia on Mar 19, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

And still no sign of Russell Branyan.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might as well ask this here, let me know if its been discussed elsewhere: Say (in the seemingly more likely everyday) scenario that Branyan opens the season on the DL. Do they go Marte at 1B or Brantley in LF?

by 7foot3 on Mar 19, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the big question. Tough to say which way they go in this case. Which do they want to suppress more: Brantley’s service time or Marte’s playing time?

by Jay on Mar 19, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate how difficult this question is to answer in reality.

STBNL

by emd2k3 on Mar 19, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not exactly sure what this says about the Indians FO, but isn’t the obvious answer to play Marte? You ensure Brantley’s service time stays down, you get him some time in the minors before you throw him to the wolves, and hey, maybe you get a chance to see if Marte doesn’t suck, and yet I feel almost certain that they’ll make the opposite decision. What do the Indians (scouts?) see in Marte that makes them so willing to treat him like Trevor Crowe? And why doesn’t Hoynes or Castrovince try to find this out?

by 7foot3 on Mar 20, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The “obvious” answer has been to play Marte, every single day, on several prior occasions, but it has basically never happened. As I think you know.

by Jay on Mar 20, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

FREE MARTE!

I just wanted to believe.

by mjmarble on Mar 20, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know. I’m just over it and onto the last one I made.

by 7foot3 on Mar 20, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

At what point do we consider Saul Rivera a legitimate possibility to make the bullpen?

by JRontherim on Mar 19, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d say one of either him or Wright makes it.

by mcrose on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s definitely in the mix

by APV on Mar 19, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

How’s everyone feeling about the Twitter widget in the sidebar?

by Jay on Mar 19, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Just call it a Twidget!

STBNL

by emd2k3 on Mar 19, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it looks great

by APV on Mar 19, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for adding the widget, I like it.

by jds16 on Mar 20, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. I’m following it anyway, so I could take it or leave it.

Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...

by USSChoo on Mar 22, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I often access the site from a place where Twitter is verboten, so it’s just a big white square. The frame is a nice shade of green, though.

by FredOx on Mar 22, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like nice shades of greens. My cabinets are currently changing from awful brown to nice green, courtesy of my paint brush.

Welcome back, Sandy! ATALECG...

by USSChoo on Mar 22, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m petrified of our bullpen right now. Outside of the Perez boys, this group just has that feel of being potentially our achilles heel, again.

by supermarioelia on Mar 20, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. Disappointed that Sipp hasn’t shown any signs of tightening it up yet. He might just be a guy that has to operate with big BB numbers. I think this group is pretty shallow, until some people are ready from: Judge Judy, her man Putnam, that other Cardinal reliever, the good Smith brother and Cracker. In roughly that order.

Wood, and the two Perezes could put together a very strong group of three for a while, and I believe that a team can get by fairly well with three excellent pen arms. But I’m a bit scared too.

by dgcambridge on Mar 20, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i’m leaning more towards laffey in there, but not just yet.

by Brick. on Mar 20, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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