" I am not disposed to complain that I have planted and others have gathered the fruits. " Charles Goodyear 1800 - 1860 "It's not something we are going to die in a ditch for." Chip Goodyear 1958 - "It's an optimistic time, if you can't be optimistic now, when can you be?" Timothy Wayne Belcher 1961 - If you are going to Arizona this month to see some spring training baseball and would like to perhaps meet some of your fellow LGT members who are doing the same, let it be known here. Remember: Personalities on the forum may appear larger than actual size. See you there.