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I didnt know where to put this but did you notice the Twins made a piching change tonight. Going with Slowey tonight and Blackburn tommrow. This is why the Twins win; smart baseball. Slowey pitched well against the Tribe ealrier this year and Blackburn is struggling so they put Blackburn in a matchup against Masterson figuring they can give Blackburn a lot more runs tommrow. I think it is little things like this that make Ron G. a great manager. I hope it blwo up in their face but seems really smart.

by johio1 on Apr 30, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

There are several reasons why the Twins win, but smart baseball generally is not one of them.

Consecutive bunts, man. Consecutive bunts.

by Jay on Apr 30, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Twins win because they’re good for baseball.

Practicing my left-handed swing as I type. By next week I'll be able to hit Masterson and Smith.

by westbrook on Apr 30, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not why:

The Twins were slated to give the ball to a struggling Nick Blackburn, but he had to head home for family reasons. Kevin Slowey, who’s gone 2-2 with a 3.42 ERA in his four starts, will move up to start on Friday. Thanks to the off-day last Monday, Slowey will still be pitching on regular rest. The Twins have yet to announce a starter for Saturday.

by FredOx on Apr 30, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it’s more fun to make stuff up.

by Brick. on Apr 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec for truth over speculation.

Come on, four billion!

by Joel D on Apr 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies. I did not realize that. I actually read that was the reason why on cleveland.com earlier today and I thought it sound like a well-thoughout move. Once again my apologies I should have researched it more and probably should just stopped reading cleveland.com. Sorry guys.

by johio1 on Apr 30, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t beat yourself up over it. There are plenty of people here to do that for you.

/ducks

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on May 1, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

More Minnesota luck.

by odradek on Apr 30, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must be joking. Please see FredOx’s comment.

Anything in life is possible, except for skiing through revolving doors.

by MooneysRebellion on Apr 30, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoynes reports that the Saturday starter will be Jeff Manship. 3.48 ERA in 4 starts in Rochester. last August, he appeared in 2 games against the Tribe, facing 10 batters, with 2 walks,1 hit and 1 strikeout (Choo).

by FredOx on Apr 30, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff Manship

representative of the slightly-silly party

by APV on Apr 30, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOROTHY MANTOOTH WAS A SAINT!!!

Sorry.

by Jay on Apr 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, when did Dorothy make it to the past tense?

Come on, four billion!

by Joel D on May 1, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on May 1, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s JEFFERSON MANSHIP to you!

Don’t you want somebody to love?

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on May 1, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re making stuff up now? I like this. In the alternate universe where Ron Gardenhire is a good manager, can Jhonny Peralta be a good player?

by Brad D on Apr 30, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You keep your cleft tongue behind your teeth in regards to Jhonny.

Come on, four billion!

by Joel D on May 1, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You keep your cleft tongue behind your teeth in regards to Jhonny.

Come on, four billion!

by Joel D on May 1, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

This seems extreme but YAY I DO NOT LIKE JOE SMITH

Practicing my left-handed swing as I type. By next week I'll be able to hit Masterson and Smith.

by westbrook on Apr 30, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t like relief pitchers who walk 18% of the batters they face (looks slightly askance at C Perez and Sipp).

by FredOx on Apr 30, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was wondering about Joe Smith’s future. I didn’t remember we still had options on him.

by APV on Apr 30, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

i texted this to andrew the other day. true story. i called it!

by Brick. on Apr 30, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for you, Brick … Smith is now sitting on 2.157 years.days of service time. He needs just 15 more days in the majors to qualify for arbitration, and to remain on schedule to reach free agency after the 2013 season. If he doesn’t get 15 more days, he won’t have the three years, which is the mandatory arbitration point. He cannot qualify as a Super Two after this season, because if he doesn’t reach three full years, he won’t have 86+ days in the majors this season, which is required in order to get arbitration as a Super Two. So either he’s a Super Two without arbitration, or he’s a three-year player with, there’s no in-between.

I hasten to add, none of this matters a whit if he sucks.

by Jay on Apr 30, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that is wild. this super two without arb is a new one to me.

not ignoring your last point, i’m fine not seeing him the rest of the season because, might as well, that’s why.

by Brick. on Apr 30, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew that would blow your mind.

Technically, anyone with >2 and <3 years of service time is a “Super Two.” It’s just a question of which ones get arbitration.

by Jay on Apr 30, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

as always, thanks

by Brick. on May 1, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t a Super Two without arbitration just a Two?

by dgcambridge on May 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. The “super” part just means “more than.”

by Jay on May 1, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Ah who cares.

by dgcambridge on May 2, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Almost went the month of April without a pitching roster move.

by Ryan on Apr 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

at least now I only need to make it to AAA to make half of this come true…

Practicing my left-handed swing as I type. By next week I'll be able to hit Masterson and Smith.

by westbrook on Apr 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Smith has gotten destroyed by righties this year, to the tune of a 1.200 OPS. So, yeah. Not sure what purpose he serves.

by afh4 on Apr 30, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

1.262, actually.

Practicing my left-handed swing as I type. By next week I'll be able to hit Masterson and Smith.

by westbrook on Apr 30, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhere over the course of forty-one years, Russ Springer has had to develop some pretty impressive grittiness. Also, it’s probably a plus in this numerical world to have prime number ages coming out of the bullpen.

by JRontherim on Apr 30, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since his contract is not an issue, he might be worth a flier.

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on May 1, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineups for tonights game:http://castrovince.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/04/430_indians_vs_twins.html

by johio1 on Apr 30, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

INDIANS (9-12): SS Cabrera, CF Sizemore, RF Choo, LF Kearns, DH Hafner, 3B Peralta, 1B LaPorta, 2B Valbuena, C Redmond. RHP Fausto Carmona (3-0, 2.96).

TWINS (14-8): CF Span, 2B Hudson, C Mauer, 1B Morneau, RF Cuddyer, DH Kubel, LF Young, SS Hardy, 3B Harris. RHP Kevin Slowey 2-2, 3.42).

by johio1 on Apr 30, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh to Hafner in the 5. Not that there’s better options. VB is honestly probably the best option here. Dude can walk.

by afh4 on Apr 30, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh hafner sizemore in the 5 2. Not that there’s better options. VB is honestly probably the best option here. Dude can walk.

by oaksterdam on Apr 30, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again sorry about the post earlier

by johio1 on Apr 30, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a big deal. Just learn that anything that involves the oft-repeated mainstream media explanations of “playing smart baseball” or whatever is going to be viewed with a lot of skepticism.

by afh4 on Apr 30, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about this the other day let me get your thought. What if we move Peralta to the 3 spot and give him some protection and bat Sizemore and Choo around him. That is assuming the real Grady shows up I guess.

by johio1 on Apr 30, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup construction has such minimal impact on run scoring that I don’t think about it. The only thing I’d ever really get behind is batting in descending OBP order according to the starting pitcher’s handedness.

by afh4 on Apr 30, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I applaud you for making any lineup suggestion that doesn’t involve Grady at #3. That shows real creativity.

by Jay on Apr 30, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But can’t you imagine Grady at the 3?! Not too many small forwards with that kinda speed in the NBA!

"You are an LGT success story" -- Jay

by Turkmenbashi on May 1, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought they’d wait until next week, but I’m glad they made the move. Smith has been pretty unimpressive, and Ambriz has been throwing strikes – 15 k’s and 1 bb in 8 innings.

Nagy has everybody on a rotation in C-bus, getting regular work. Ambriz has been pitching every 3 days, and last time was 4/27, so they called him up to pitch. We’ll likely see him tonite or tomorrow.

by mcrose on Apr 30, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

And Tony Sipp, Jamey Wright and Raffy Perez heave huge sighs of relief, at least until Kerry Wood is ready to kill bears.

"...maybe this year, there's no gorilla" - YoDaddyWags

by woodsmeister on Apr 30, 2010 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Another one bites the dust in the Gutierrez trade.

by odradek on Apr 30, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve resigned myself on that trade – Gutz would never play CF in Cleveland which is where he needs to be. The ballsy move would have been to move Grady to LF, but that wasn’t going to happen.

And I have to say, of all the LGFTers, I’m glad he’s doing good. So far. (LGT caveat).

by mcrose on May 1, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking yesterday about whether I’d rather have Awesome Kearns or Frank. Have not actually investigated the answer, just saying, the question cropped up.

by fleerdon on May 1, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

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