Game 49: Yankees 11, Indians 2
by Ryan on May 31, 2010 5:09 PM EDT
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If one is an anomaly and two is a trend, then what's four horrible bullpen outings in four games? This was actually a close game in the seventh inning. Mitch Talbot wasn't at the top of his game; he was almost continually pitching with runners on base, but he left the game having given up two runs in 6.1 innings. And it's not like he bequeathed a major jam to the pitchers that followed him; he left after Derek Jeter singled with one out and nobody on.
Zombie Perez came in to get Curtis Granderson, a favorable matchup for the former standout reliever. But Granderson singled through the right side, and Zombie made things worse by uncorking a wild pitch, taking away the possibility of a double play. He was removed, after intentionally walking Mark Teixeira, in favor of Chris Perez. Chris had the unenviable task of facing Alex Rodriguez with the bases loaded, but still, these are the situations you expect your best reliever to come into and excel in. But the only category Chris excelled in today was runs given up. He gave up a grand slam to Rodriguez, and then served up a home run to Robinson Cano. After that, the Yankees crossed home run plate so quickly I couldn't make out the particulars.
Lou Marson continued to impress with his throwing arm. He caught two Brett Gardner twice today trying to steal second, and is now 13-for-24 in catching would-be base stealers. Jhonny Peralta hit his 100th career home run in the second inning, which places him in a tie for 22nd place with Joe Gordon on the all-time franchise list.
| Highest WPA | Lowest WPA | ||
| Mitch Talbot | .102 | Chris Perez | -.136 |
| Jhonny Peralta | .024 | Austin Kearns | -.088 |
| Mark Grudzielanek | .014 | Shelley Duncan | -.078 |
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Hopefully they make some moves to the bullpen soon, if only to give the illusion of improvement through meaningless change.
Frank Herrmann, Zack Putnam, or maybe somebody’s on waivers or something. Anything.
I’m beginning to have thoughts that Dontrelle Willis might even be worth a shot in out bullpen. Please, somebody talk me down from this ledge.
"The delusional get what they deserve." - afh4
by woodsmeister on Jun 1, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I’m reaching the “why not throw stuff at the wall and see if anything sticks?” phase regarding this bullpen.
"The delusional get what they deserve." - afh4
Current “stuff” we could throw at the wall:
Justin Germano, Frank Herrmann, Vinnie Pestano, Bryan Price
by APV on Jun 1, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Germano pitched a complete game (7 innings) one-hitter yesterday, striking out 8 and walking zero. I know that’s just one game, but it certainly looks like he could give us some help in the bullpen.
The David versus Goliath storyline always applies here — what are the Yankees without the best hitters drafted and developed by the rest of the league? Show me a Yankee lineup with Jeter, Cano, Gardner, Russo, Cervelli, and some complementary free agent pieces, and lets see how they do.
But these last two games were too winnable. At that part of the game, your best relievers have to be good enough to beat their hitters. I don’t expect the Indians to play .600 ball against the Yankees over the course of a season, but winning 3-0 in the 7th inning, they should win 9 times out of 10.
If the Indians walked out of that series with Masterson, Talbot, Perez, and Sipp doing what they can do, it’d feel like a success, even if the wins weren’t there.
ehhh
I guess that lineup would be something like
Jeter SS
Gardner LF
Swisher RF
Cano 2B
Posada DH
Granderson CF
Cervelli C
Miranda 1B
Russo 3B
Yeah of course they’re paying two of those guys a ton (aside from Jorge and Jeter the highest paid guy there is actually Cano, yeah Swisher / Granderson’s actually making less), but still. that’s a pretty legitmately good lineup there still. the back end is bit questionable but they still seem legitimately capable
by RollingWave on May 31, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
When do they start blood-testing Andy Pettite for masking agents?
Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!
I hate Andy Pettitte. Whenever I see him pitch I am convinced he is not only the best pitcher in the game today, but the greatest pitcher of all time, by far. Good god, did the Tribe look terrible against him. It was like an adult pitching to children.
Why is he allowed to cover his mouth with the glove on every pitch? Has anyone ever even postulated that he could be loading it up?
Come on, four billion!
well
he has been pitching in the bigs since half of the Indians (with the notable exception of Grudz) lineup were still pre-pub, so maybe that’s not as much of a stretch as you think :P
by RollingWave on May 31, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Or the little faces that use colons as eyes. Other than those two things, enjoy yourself.
Come on, four billion!
Junkballer, we try to only post comments one time on this site. Other than that, enjoy yourself.
by Chemo on Jun 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope this isn’t true, from Hoynes:
Chris Perez said the scouting report on the New York Yankees was to challenge them because they weren’t hitting with runners on base. “We wanted to be aggressive and not pitch around them,” said Perez. “The starters did a good job. The bullpen, not so much.”
Acta points out that all three seventh innings were keyed by Granderson, who went three-for-three against lefties (after hitting .199 against lefthanded pitching over the past three years).
I had pointed this out each time. Granderson was supposed to be the automatic out, if we fail to get him, then the rest of the inning would be a disaster.
If anyone seriously thinks Zombie has a platoon advantage, let alone any advantage, I don’t know what to tell them.
by afh4 on Jun 1, 2010 12:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m writing this post in order to figure out what it was about this series that made me feel, against all odds, OPTIMISTIC. None of this should be mistaken for educated guessing. It’s just gut reaction, and certainly colored by low expectations as well as the need for something to cling to. Still.
Given what I expected at the beginning of the year, combined with injuries that gutted the top of the lineup, I think we could have done worse than to have the 7th inning be our bogeyman on the road against the Yankees. The reason Masterson looked like he was on the verge of tears in the dugout in game three was because he’d been in line for the win, and what would have been a pretty great first win of the season at that. I have no idea whether this single outing portends long-term improvement in Masterson’s ability to retire lefties and keep his control, but it sure felt good to watch.
Other glimmers included LaPorta getting on base 4 times in 9 PAs against top-tier pitching, Jason Donald’s effort, and Lou Marson’s defense. Yes, these are minuscule samples, and yes, we did more than enough wrong to drop three of four. On the other hand, we did enough right to have kept all three losses competitive before late bullpen implosions. That was primarily a testament to not-awful starting pitching, but that’s not nothing, especially against a good team that’s already in a pennant race.
Also, having long abandoned interest in whether we win or lose, it’s easy to watch for discrete successes. During a booted year, I’m fine with that. This series transported me to somewhere between 1991 and 1992, on the cusp of the cusp, where good signs are like flickering fermions caught on grainy film, perhaps mechanical imperfections anyway.
Could these be hallucinations from rock-bottom? That is the risk. That is always the risk. To insulate ourselves from such risk (a purely hypothetical condition, to be sure, for anyone reading this) would be to doom ourselves to a paranoiac hell – Yankee fandom – characterized by a domination of the Other that reaches its apotheosis in the abrogation of the self.
And so I submit myself, not just willingly but enthusiastically, to a renewed excitement for this team’s prospects, with nothing more than casual observations (and a fantasy where Mike Redmond morphs into Carlos Santana) as evidence. Join me or don’t.
From, Ben
by bentausig on Jun 1, 2010 6:16 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
It is aggravating how once in a while, some pitcher gets on a “winless” streak, and it seems to take a real emotional toll on the guy’s confidence. Totally unfair.
I think you should repost this as a FanPost.
Baseball is the only sport with a decent one (full disclosure: I know nothing about hockey).
by JulioBernazard on Jun 2, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone notice that Jared Goedert has been going all-Kouzmanoff in Akron lately? Goedert is 10-months older than Kouzmanoff was when he tore up Akron back in 2006, has less of a track record, and is possibly even more injury-prone, but the May numbers are fun to look at (assuming your day is otherwise not very fun).
Goedert (May 2010): .340/.413/.638, 10.1 BB%, 13.8 K%
Kouzmanoff (April-June 2006): .389/.449/.660, 8.4 BB%, 12.4 K%
These days, none. Here’s his position breakdown this season: 3B 23, DH 13, LF 3, RF 1.
by APV on Jun 1, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh God no (although this couldn’t be much worse than the Valbuena experience).
Funny how Kouzmanoff can play D after all. It was hard to get a read on that while he was with us; I assumed—along with most others, I suppose—that he was fringy at best. Kouz’ biggest shortcoming is obviously his bat.
I think the take on Kouzmanoff is that he can’t get to much, but what he gets to, he converts into an out successfully. Isn’t that the same thing we heard about Peralta at SS, and isn’t it true that Peralta graded out well on defensive metrics throughout his tenure at SS? There’s something to be said for not making errors on balls hit right at you. But what’s the difference between making 10 fewer errors over the course of a year and not getting to 10 balls that the average fielder would get to?
I really don’t know what to make of the data.
That particular defense of a guy’s defense flies a lot better at 3B than at SS.
by Jay on Jun 1, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Gutz currently has a BB% of 13.39 (28bb in 209pa), which is what Grady produced at his very best.
We goofed. Ohh well.
I saw that, but what you’re seeing there is Franklin being pitched around because nobody else in that lineup can hit. The data won’t show it. It’s not going to come up as an intentional walk. I think the residual effect is that he is in fact taking more pitches, so yes, in that manner, he’s being more patient. But I think the walks are a product of that batting order — you’re going to take you chances against Sweeney, Lopez, Kotchman or whoever else is hitting behind Franklin.
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