Huff Demoted
Huff officially sent to AAA, with a corresponding move to be announced tomorrow before the game.
In related news, Luis Valbuena at no risk of being demoted, because if you don't play, you can't make a bad impression.
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Just saw it on the twitter. LV stayed up too long last year actually, too.
Maybe he has similar photos of Shap than Casey had of Wedge.
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If Cabrera was healthy, it would be an outrageous situation. But he’s not. I could go either way.
by dgcambridge on Jun 21, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
We need a poll – Carassco or Laffey? (and no fair letting people choose “Who Cares?”, because that would win in a landslide)
As inconsistent as Carrasco has been, I don’t see how the Indians can seriously promote Laffey at this point — 4 starts, 5 innings per start, almost one walk per inning. Sounds like Huff. Maybe worse. I realize it’s not a big sample, but there’s nothing there to suggest he can produce quality starts for the Indians at this point.
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It would be seniority, if nothing else. And last year, Laffey went down and was awful, and they called him up anyway.
But I think you’re right, the walks might sink him. They probably wouldn’t sweat the low Ks or high ERA, but it seems like their movements with guys like JLewis and Smith have been about walks.
by dgcambridge on Jun 21, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
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I’m possibly the biggest laffey supporter here and happen to like what he gave us in 07-09.
The walks really bug me.
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Wishful thinking, maybe, but I’m wondering if Laffey hasn’t been working on one or two pitches down there.
Carrasco seems like the obvious guy. Other than a really bad outing last week, his K/BB have been improving dramatically as the season wears on.
Among non-rostered guys, I would say Pino. Problem with Pino is that you’d like to keep all his options intact, and calling him up now probably means sending him down later this season. But maybe it doesn’t mean that. Maybe they call him up now and just commit to keeping him up.
I like your thinking, vis-a-vis Laffey, but wouldn’t someone have said something by now if it was as simple as that?
Maybe, maybe not.
I’m mindful that Laffey has a track record. His career ERA as a big-league starter is a little under 4.50. He spent the last three months of 2009 in our big-league rotation, and his ERA was 4.64.
I think you have to assume that he’s that guy in the long run, not the guy who had a handful of crappy starts after being demoted from the Cleveland bullpen to the Columbus rotation.
Let’s see what CarCar can bring to the bigs, unless it messes up his clock.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 21, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Would be nice to wait another couple of weeks for his clock to turn, but you really can’t worry too much about clock for a pitcher. If Carrasco is called up and improbably stays in the majors clear through the end of 2012, continuously, that would be a great piece of news, and given its low probability, it’s worth the risk of the price price of his being a Super 2 guy for 2013.
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by JulioBernazard on Jun 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
What, exactly, took so long for this to happen? Lack of a call up suitable of performing better than Huff?
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by Andrew Tolliver on Jun 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions
Pitcher not needed until Saturday - the Indians can bring in a bat for the Philly series and Friday at Cincy - then make a decision on whom to drop on Saturday.
Do we really even need one on Saturday? With the off-day, couldn’t we just keep everyone on a five-day rotation and not bring up a starter until next Wednesday?
Yes, we need one Saturday. Talbot-Westbrook-Carmona-Masterson-?
They had purposely moved Huff around to break up Carmona and Masterson, so it won’t surprise me if Laffey or Carrasco is called up to pitch Friday.
I doubt they would yo-yo Brantley around just to get him up for three days. I don’t think it necessarily is a position player, though. Maybe Jess Todd.
Did not know where else to put this,but I think LaPorta has proved his point. Play him everyday and he will hit. Another 3 hits tonight and he is batting a cool .420, 5 HR 12 RBI and an OPS of 1.242. Lets get our low ceiling AA guy for Branyan and move on. Give Laporta the at bats and see what happens.
Also I know their has not been much hype around Josh Rod. but I think he probably deserves a look before Acab comes back and Donald is moved to 2B for the rest of the year.
As far as our 5th starter, I would just like to give Tomlin a shot and see what happens. I have been a huge Laffey guy, but him and Carrasco have already been up and did not exactly light the world on fire. I am not saying that Laffey or CarCar wont be decent MLB starting pitchers one day, but give someone like Tomlin a shot who knows what happens. Best case we catch lighting in a bottle with a guy that has been off the radar. Worst case he is David Huff.
Carrasco has something like 270+ innings in AAA. Tomlin has 74 innings in AAA. Carrasco is on the 40-man roster. Tomlin is not on the 40-man roster. Carrasco was a hyped prospect, ranked #52 in the minors going into 2009. Tomlin was not. Carrasco has been performing this year with an even BABIP of .302. Josh Tomlin has had a lucky BABIP of .226 (83 points lower than his BABIP last year).
It’s cool Tomlin is having a solid year, but Carrasco is still a legitimate option going forward. Carrasco still has quite a bit of upside. And, in all honesty, Tomlin’s year may not be as solid as it appears (-3 net score; 4.18 FIP). Carrasco himself doesn’t have impressive numbers there either, though, admittedly (-8 net, 4.73 FIP).
I should also add that while the net score system may not completely by “fair” to groundball pitchers, Tomlin’s GB% is 38%, so it’s not even like his K rate is made up for by recording groundouts. Carrasco sports a 46% GB%, for what it is worth.
Also! Your BABIP is gonna be high when you give up as many doubles (19) and triples (3) as CC does.
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I’m sure there is a stat for what I’m thinking of, but I didn’t look it up. But my quick hand math tells me Carrasco is giving up 0.427 XBHs per inning this year. He gave up 0.407 XBHs last year (including his ML stint). Prior to these past two years, though, he’d only given up 0.259 XBHs per inning. On one hand, that can be credited to stronger, older hitters in AAA and the majors. I still wonder if it is something to be concerned about, though. Pinpointing 2008 specifically, he gave up 0.290 XBHs per inning between AA and AAA.
Again, I’m sure there is a better stat for what I’m trying to convey here, but it was easy enough just to add up the XBHs and IP.
What do you call a guy who’s too good for AA but not very good in AAA? More importantly, how do you type it? AA.5?
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Between AA and AAA, in 124 ab’s he’s at .306/.417/.532. But I don’t know if 124 ab’s is enough to deem him worthy of a call-up now, but at least he’s put himself on the radar.
Then there’s that whole not on the 40-man roster thing.
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by woodsmeister on Jun 22, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Neither is Brantley, but people want him up with the big club.
by JulioBernazard on Jun 22, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
“LaPorta has proved his point.” What point would that be exactly? That he figured out how to hit minor league pitching but hasn’t adjusted to the major leagues? I think that point was already made before. As to “Play him everyday and he will hit,” yes that’s true regarding AAA, but at the beginning of the season it seemed to me he did play everyday in the majors and just couldn’t hit. It’s not like he wasn’t given a chance. It seems to me he just needs to figure out how to succeed against major league pitching.
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by V-Mart Shopper on Jun 22, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn’t LaPorta hurt at the beginning of the season?
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by world dictator on Jun 22, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
The call-up decision ought to depend on the overall philosophy, if that word can be applied to the present train wreck. What is the Tribe trying to do — patch together a presentable roster, or build for 2011? If it’s the latter, which it ought to be, then you need to see what one of the untested guys can do, and let Laffey work on his problems in Columbus.
by just a bit outside on Jun 22, 2010 7:56 AM EDT reply actions
But CarCar is worth testing now, yes? I wonder if the team feel he’s pitching better right now than he was when they recalled him last September? (His 2009 Columbus numbers were terrific; his 2010 numbers are more in line with his minor league career results.)
Sure, he’s worth it in a “why the hell not” kind of way. He doesn’t seem ready to be more than a fifth starter, and maybe that’s as far as his ability will ever take him. Not trying to be negative, that’s just my read on the situation.
Dave Duncan could teach him to get some movement on his fastball and keep it in the zone, and I think he’d be a legit 2-3.
So we should trade him to St. Louis?
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by woodsmeister on Jun 22, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like it is Joe Smith getting the call.
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on Jun 22, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
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