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Game 70: Phillies 7, Indians 6

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In cases like this, I'd almost prefer a boring blowout loss. You invest over three hours of hope, and - snap! - it's gone in one swing of the bat.

In contrast to last night's pitcher's duel, the Indians and Phillies traded runs throughout the game. Shin-Soo Choo hit two home runs, driving in four runs, and the Indians led . But the key point in the contest came when the Indians didn't score a run. That turning point came in the top of the sixth inning, when Manny Acta lifted Jake Westbrook for a pinch hitter with a runner on third and one out with the Indians leading 5-4. Regardless of how Hafner's at-bat went, Acta was banking on his bullpen pitching the final four innings. Hafner made the gut call look like a bad one by grounding out weakly to third on the first pitch he saw. Now the shaky bullpen would have to hold back the theoretically awesome Phillies lineup in check.

First out of the bullpen was Tony Sipp, who has awful ever since the last road trip the Indians took. He allowed the first Phillies to each base, then got a double play, and got the third out thanks to a convoluted rundown involving two runners (the play started with a throw to first and ended with Carlos Santana tagging out Ryan Howard out at the plate). Brad Schneider, who was at the plate when the rundowns began, hit his first homer of the year off Frank Herrmann to start the seventh. So after getting away with having Tony Sipp face the middle of the Philadelphia order, one of the better relievers gave up the lead to the worst position player in the lineup.

That's where the score stayed until the ninth, when Anderson Hernandez and Trevor Crowe lead off the inning with singles. Then, after Hernandez was thrown out at home on a fielder's choice, Trevor Crowe scored when he beat the throw home on a Carlos Santana grounder. But like many times in this game, this score led to another. Kerry Wood walked Brian Schneider to open the inning, and that cardinal sin was punished two batters later when Jimmy Rollins got his first hit since coming off the DL, a no-doubt walk-off home run into the right field seats.

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Highest WPA Lowest WPA
Trevor Crowe .353 Kerry Wood -.787
Carlos Santana .271 Jake Westbrook -.157
Shin-Soo Choo .207 Jhonny Peralta -.157

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The fielding seemed frightening this evening. The Tribe is 26th in the majors (and last in the AL) in defensive efficiency (defined as the rate at which balls in play are converted by the defense into outs).

by odradek on Jun 24, 2010 1:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Peralta’s gone next year. Valbuena/Grudz won’t be playing 2B regularly. Asdrubal is an improvement at SS over Valbuena and Donald. Grady’s an improvement over Crowe. If not for the injuries, this team would be better.

by xrickx on Jun 24, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever.

Wood won’t be here next year. The benefit to the franchise of winning 75 games instead of 65 does not outweigh the drop in talent for next year’s stacked top-5. As for this year and more specifically tonight, Santana did his job. Crowe’s made a few nice plays of late. Choo’s the real deal. Herrmann settled back down after the HR. Chris Perez was legit, again.

The development continues tomorrow.

by xrickx on Jun 24, 2010 2:31 AM EDT reply actions  

After the game, I noticed a young fellow with a Tribe cap heading to downtown Philly on the same subway line. I started to say something to him — some condolence — but he was ahead of me. “We’re used to it,” he said, shrugging. Still, it was a helluva game to see. Santana is worth the price of admission — his confidence level could become contagious, and Phillies fans were awed by our Korean rightfielder. On the subway line, I ran into a guy in his 80s who wore a Phillies t-shirt and Tribe cap, explaining that he grew up not far from Municipal Stadium, and later moved East. He was pleased to root “for everyone.” Maybe he’s a model for us.

by just a bit outside on Jun 24, 2010 7:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I was at the game last night with the family. My son Colin (aka Logo to LGT regulars) is visiting from Arizona. As Colin, his sister, my wife and I were walking throught he parking lot on the way to the game wearing our tribe caps and shirts we were booed by some of the tailgaiters. Someone called out “how much for the women?” I guess Phillies fans think of Cleveland as a source for whatever Phillies fans want. It was pretty good natured taunting, at least compared to how some Philly fans behave.

I agree with your sentiments about the game. Santana, Choo, and on this day Trevor Crowe looked awesome. I had the same comment “we’re used to it” for the happy Philles fans while leaving the game. I still enjoy watching a good baseball game. the defense wasn’t exacly crisp by either team, but overall it was a good game.

We’re going back this afternoon for more.

by Pa tribefan on Jun 24, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can Wood’s trade value go any lower?

by JulioBernazard on Jun 24, 2010 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Do not tempt Fate. Fate has no willpower.

"Facebook is bad news. It and Jason Donald both crush dreams." - JRontherim

by woodsmeister on Jun 24, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He could have converted none of his eight save opportunities. He will still have value because he’s a Proven Closer.

by odradek on Jun 24, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know it is early, and many of us (me included) were initially quite happy with Acta’s hiring. But…is anyone else beginning to second guess hiring a guy whose record as a manager was 158-252?

by APV on Jun 24, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s one of those circular arguments. Acta has never had a good team to manage but how much is the Manager at fault for having a bad team?

by MickS on Jun 24, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really didn’t expect us to be this bad

by APV on Jun 24, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

We were expected to be bad before losing Grady and Droobs. And then, of course, there is the Bullpen Implosion. I’m not sure how much we can hang on Acta, beyond the team’s total inability to field a bunt.

"Facebook is bad news. It and Jason Donald both crush dreams." - JRontherim

by woodsmeister on Jun 24, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is my feeling. Lost 2 of 3 best players, bullpen sucks again (front office at fault.)

by Roger Dorn on Jun 24, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Add a dose of “young players not developing or regressing” — Valbuena, LaPorta, Brantley. But, bullpen sucks again wins by a healthy margin, in my opinion.

'If I'm not here, 'I'll be somewhere else.'' Andy Marte

by peter m on Jun 24, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, at least the Mariners also suck in spite of their incredible starting rotation. They’re like the 2008 Indians right now (the parallel was even more obvious while they had Garko). Jose Lopez at 3B, Figgins at 2B? Insanity.

We’re the 2010 Indians and, if you look closely, a better team is coming.

by jhon on Jun 24, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

(front office at fault.)

Shouldn’t, maybe, you know…the coaches carry some responsibility for this?

by APV on Jun 24, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not when we are throwing out the same bums every year.

by Roger Dorn on Jun 24, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure. How many games do you think we’ve lost through bad coaching? Maybe we’d be in fourth place right now instead of fifth with optimal coaching.

"Facebook is bad news. It and Jason Donald both crush dreams." - JRontherim

by woodsmeister on Jun 24, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying Acta is a good coach, I am just saying I am not sure.

by Roger Dorn on Jun 24, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but

We were expected to be bad before losing Grady and Droobs. And then, of course, there is the Bullpen Implosion. I’m not sure how much we can hang on Acta, beyond the team’s total inability to field a bunt.

Not here for the women.

by westbrook on Jun 24, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

or run. or hit. or pitch.

by JulioBernazard on Jun 24, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we can do two out of three on any given night. Which two is anybody’s guess.

by 9James on Jun 24, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

sss + injuries make it hard to put this on Acta. Yet.

Has sabermetrics developed a tool for evaluating the marginal contribution of managers? Would it be possible?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 24, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how it would be possible. Somebody could probably invent a metric, but I’d guess it would have more weaknesses than strengths.

by jakesinger777 on Jun 24, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see what they would use as a measure to develop a WAR type rating for managers. Maybe actual W-L record vs. Pythagorean, but then it’s still hard to pin causation on the manager. Neyer has a piece on Bobby Valentine comparing teams’ records before and after he came aboard, but that’s a correlation not a demonstration of causation.

So if there’s no reliable way to measure a manager’s value added, all we can do is go on instinct or rely on anecdotal evidence from stupid decisions we observe in game situations.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Jun 25, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the best way which is extremely unscientific is to compare perceived team talent (which would incorporate expert predictions, opinions, expectations) against actual team performance over several years.

by Roger Dorn on Jun 25, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ask me again in 2 years.

by Roger Dorn on Jun 24, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whenever I find myself thinking that way, I simply remember the image of Wedge twitching in the dugout as another one of his moves (or nonmoves, more likely) blew up. Then I feel better about Acta.

by odradek on Jun 24, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think a lot of people have been second guessing a lot more than the FO’s choice in manager for a long time now.

by NickFantana on Jun 24, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Due to a last-minute cancellation, I’ve ended up with an extra ticket to today’s game.

Any Philly local who wants to come, drop me an e-mail and head on down to the stadium. At this point, even mid-game, nobody else is going to use this ticket.

by Jay on Jun 24, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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