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Game 57: Red Sox 3, Indians 2

I guess the Indians lost tonight. Hell, I don't know. I was eating tapas at a work-mandated event! The box score is pretty indecipherable. David Huff went 6 innings with no earned runs. It looks like he K'd 6 Red Socked Players but he lived in the air. He surrendered 3 runs as a result of some terrible Trevor Crowe error. No big surprise there: Crowe's centerfield has never gotten a lot of play with scouts and even my untrained naked eye can tell he's a butcher.

So, whatever, the Indians lost. Shelley Duncan hit a homerun so Ryan will be super pumped about having him under control through his age 44 season (accounting for manipulation of his sweet-16 status). Point being, you could spend all day tomorrow being surly to coworkers because we lost to the Red Sox or you could realize this was about as good a night as one could ask for at a non-major league level.

  • Carlos Santana cranked another HR out of Huntington Park, piling more kindling onto Lou Marson's funeral pyre (hey, nice 0-2, Lou! See you in hell!). Santana is now 3rd in the International League (can somebody remind me what's "international" about a baseball game between Columbus and Rochester?) sitting behind two first basemen, one of whom is named Chris Richard but did not win a basketball championship at the University of Florida, and both of whom are on the Durham roster (how is that even possible?). Santana also leads the IL in BB's by a considerable margin (7) and is the only player at the top of the leaderboard with a BB:K over 1.0 (that means he has more BB's than K's for the trogs in the audience). In case you hadn't noticed this bullet point was the commemorative Joe Posnaski (parenthetical) bullet point (cringe). 
  • Alex White didn't pitch particularly well but he didn't give up an earned run either. When Huff doesn't give up an earned run but still loses, I roll my eyes. When White doesn't give up an earned run but walks 5, I make excuses. White's ERA at AA is a miniscule 1.40, he recorded 11 GO's in 6 innings tonight, and I'm sure had I been there I could say he "battled" and you wouldn't be able to argue because, dude, I was there. Regardless, I'm not going to complain that we've got a first rounder pitching well in AA considering the other recent first rounders I can remember are either dropping balls in Cleveland's CF, missing fingers, or...
  • Sowers got lit up again tonight for Columbus, appearing in relief for an ineffective Laffey. If this doesn't make you smirk a little at this point, c'mon, grow a sense of humor. Sowers is the firstborn that the parents totally screwed up and he's got way more successful young siblings (named Lonnie and Alex), so when Jeremy crashes his new Dodge Neon you just shrug. Lonnie and Alex can probably fix it with a bottle of Drano and guile. At least we hope that's the case: for all we know they'll be huffing Tilex with Jeremy out in some Franklin county field in a year.
  • Speaking of the Chiz, he went 2-4 with a homerun and a walk. His OPS in his last 10 games is over 1.100. The fact that Santana and Chisenhall are both intact and dominant is thrilling. Chisenhall's numbers are rock solid across the board, with a 15:17 BB:K and an ISO over .120. His MILB.com photo makes it look like he has rosacea, which makes me nervous that he might be a 1920s-style drunk, but other than that I feel pretty good about the kid. 
  • Jason Kipnis of Kinston is also on-fire, going 3-4 with 3 2Bs tonight. Kipnis is wearing a 1.132 OPS sportcoat over his last 10 games. The concern here is that the young man flails against lefties (.699 OPS) but he appears to be pretty well stuck at second base and, if you're wondering, my take on his photo is that he looks like a cross between Freddie Prinze Jr. and a caveman.   
  • Don't look now but here comes the fat man. That's probably an overstatement: I'm not convinced Omar Aguilar is either all that fat or all that good but the K numbers are a lot of fun. Aguilar struck out 3 in 2 innings of relief for Alex "ultimate gamer" White. 
  • Beau Mills is awake. Lolz. Kidding. Not at all. But Weglarz went 3-5 with a 2B as he finds his sea legs in AAA. Get it? He's a Clipper. Right? Sea legs? Fine, I'll try something else. Brantley went 5-5. All groundballs. None pulled. Any better? Didn't think so.
  • Since I can't end a nice bullet run with a cruel joke, I'll just share with you a little guy I like to call Jose "The Founder of The Republic" Flores who has appeared out of thin air and started striking fools out at Lake County. ¡Viva La Venezuela!

There are a whole slew of Cleveland fans who just don't get it. They don't get what a razor thin margin is being worked with here, they don't understand the valuation of major players or prospects, and they don't get how perfect this organization has to be. I'm not saying the organization is perfect. I'm not even ready to say it's approaching competence. I'm just saying there's a lot to follow on the farm as a result of Shapiro's noted horse-trading prowess and the decisions of whoever's pulling the levers on the draft this day. And, as it is draft day, that person did some more pulling today and I, for one, choose to be excited about that instead of sort of perplexed by whatever David Huff did.

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Beau Mills swings a lot
NAIA let down
How about Jeff Francis?

by Brad D on Jun 9, 2010 1:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, Abraham, I knew this recap was by you when I saw the caption.

Armando Galarraga gave up a 420-foot drive to Mark Frickin' Grudzielanik.

by westbrook on Jun 9, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I love when you get feisty.

by ameliorate on Jun 9, 2010 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

This is terrific. It must have been induced by alcohol.

by Toxicadam on Jun 9, 2010 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, they weren’t just serving tapas at this soiree.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 9, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watched Strasburg last night. He will very likely strike out 60% of these guys on Sunday. Forget about winning or even scoring a run. Just get a damn hit, please.

by TribeJay on Jun 9, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I think the last time I had this much fun watching a pitcher work was Fausto in Game 2 of the ’07 ALDS. Only the moment made that one better.

You are reading my signature.

by rolub on Jun 9, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Marson takes him yard.

As General Manager of this team, I demand to know when I'm getting a start.

by bigbrabbs on Jun 9, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a DC resident I’ve had to live with the giddy excitement and anticipation of “Strasmas” for the past year. I’ve watched with jealousy…

What hurts most is the certain knowledge that if the Indians had signed Strasburg he would now be on the DL with a severely infected eyelid that would eventually spread to the optic nerve causing the permanent loss of vision in that eye.

If you believe it's just a game, you're also probably wondering why Santa keeps skipping your house every year.

by LeftyCatcher on Jun 9, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t that make it hurt less?

by Jay on Jun 9, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Anything in life is possible, except for skiing through revolving doors.

by MooneysRebellion on Jun 9, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m not saying Strasburg is going to strike out 27 Indians on Sunday.

by gte619n on Jun 9, 2010 9:05 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s wise: a passed ball on strike three, and voila! Strasburg gets 28.

by YoDaddyWags on Jun 9, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Intentionally, nonethleless!

Armando Galarraga gave up a 420-foot drive to Mark Frickin' Grudzielanik.

by westbrook on Jun 9, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best recap ever written.

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jun 9, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I’m really excited the performances of a select few down there, but the day-to-day recaps of their exploits sometimes gives me the impression that we’re picking cherries. If it’s to get our spirits up, then great. But if they’re meant to give us the feeling that somehow the organization has turned a corner, there are enough guys under-performing down there to still leave me a tad skeptical. Ah, maybe I’m just pissy.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

we’re picking cherries

Of course we are picking cherries. Does the pie taste better if I tell you Chen went 0-5?

by APV on Jun 9, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frigging Chen. Ruining my pie.

Wasn’t meant as a criticism of the recaps, of course they’re great. In reality I’m more upset at myself for not checking the boxes enough last year to figure out that Mills fell off the face of the earth. And I guess I’m fearful that reading about Weglarz’s good game last night will lull me into a sense of comfort, then we won’t hear anything good about him for a month, and then apparently he sucks and my country has failed again.

But that’s for me to come to grips with in my own twisted mind, you guys keep up the good work.

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wegz is having a solid season. He has gotten a slow start since being promoted to Columbus (hopefully not a reflection of his struggles with breaking pitches), but on the whole he has had a nice season so far. Beau Mills is dead to me.

by APV on Jun 9, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gives the impression we’re picking cherries?

Aren’t we doing it pretty blatantly?

by Jay on Jun 9, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some comments because I WAS THERE
Huff looked good. He was throwing FB for strikes and they seemed generally late on him. Later in the game he switched up and started working backwards. Of course those watching on the tube know better than I but I WAS THERE.
Trevor Crowe should be DFA’d as I’m not sure that he rates playing time in Columbus. The ONLY skill he profiled well in at AZ was ISO-OBP and that is now gone. What a colossally stupid Draft pick! Someone should nail a picture of him on Mirabelli’s door as he is the poster-boy for his drafts.
I lived in NYC for twenty years so I can say that Red Sox fans are the worst on the planet. There is a bloated sense of entitlement and they have no decorum or manners. Hey when I’m in Fenway, I seem to know enough to be respectful of being in someone else’s house. I mute my cheering and certainly don’t start “Let’s go Indians!” chants.

by stuart dean on Jun 9, 2010 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

By ISO-OBP you basically are saying walk rate?

by Jay on Jun 9, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but please allow me to over-complicate

by stuart dean on Jun 9, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s sometimes called “isolated patience” to go with “isolated power,” but yes, walk rate is a nice, simple way to go.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was also there. Huff was indeed pretty good, except for when he wasn’t — he fell apart after the Crowe error and got hit pretty hard. But, other than that, he looked like he had a plan and was being more aggressive.

Defence was basically awful — not just Crowe (who made more than one bad play in center), but also the lack of range in the infield (balls that just got through third and second, for example).

Sipp walked another guy — first guy (only guy) he faced. Ugh.

The hitting was pathetic — the Red Sox fans behind me correctly said that only the Indians have been able to make Wakefield look good this year.

What I found particularly depressing was realizing that there was, at best, one YOUNG position player on the field who might be a serious part of the Indians’ future (either Donald or Valbuena). For a team that’s supposed to be rebuilding, the rebuilding is going on elsewhere (hence the game recap’s focus on the minor leagues, where our best young guys currently reside). It’s hard to find the major league games interesting at the moment, I confess.

'If I'm not here, 'I'll be somewhere else.'' Andy Marte

by peter m on Jun 9, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s hard to find the major league games interesting at the moment, I confess.

There is definitely some truth to that. The lack of performance from young guys in Cleveland has made it hard to watch the team and is one of the major reasons we have the second worst record in the league. I imagine there will be considerable 40-man turnover between now and mid-August as more guys like Herrmann get cycled onto the roster. I’m not sure if this will make the team more or less painful to watch, but it should make it more interesting.

by APV on Jun 9, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

…there was, at best, one YOUNG position player on the field who might be a serious part of the Indians’ future (either Donald or Valbuena).

Don’t sleep on Marson.

by odradek on Jun 9, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You were THERE or you were there?

Armando Galarraga gave up a 420-foot drive to Mark Frickin' Grudzielanik.

by westbrook on Jun 9, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be cooler if Crowe was this kind of butcher. In fact it would be cooler if Crowe actually was this butcher and not playing centerfield in Cleveland.

by hans on Jun 9, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

So apparently we’ve sold 1000 tickets since midnight and we’re expected to surpass 25,000.

Armando Galarraga gave up a 420-foot drive to Mark Frickin' Grudzielanik.

by westbrook on Jun 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

For sunday of course.

Armando Galarraga gave up a 420-foot drive to Mark Frickin' Grudzielanik.

by westbrook on Jun 9, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only 15K last night for the Sox though. They didn’t exactly bring the crowds.

by afh4 on Jun 9, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sox frontrunners are new to this whole thing. They don’t realize you’re supposed to change allegiance only in the off-season.

by FredOx on Jun 9, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we don’t sell out Sunday, is that not a failure of the Tribe marketing department? Short of a home opener or a playoff game, this is the biggest thing that could’ve fallen into the Indians laps. Every baseball fan knows what happened last night, but now it’s up to the Indians to let every Ohioan know that he’ll be at the Prog on Sunday. Regardless of of how they feel about the organization, they’ll show up if given enough notice….or are we that far-gone from an attendance standpoint?

by supermarioelia on Jun 9, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the gap is too large. I don’t expect a sell-out.

by Roger Dorn on Jun 9, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares about this bum? I wanted to see Adam Miller pitch.

by odradek on Jun 9, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely unsourced Lastoria tweet:

Not saying I have or have not been told anything, but have good feeling that Carlos Santana will make MLB debut at home June 15 vs. Mets.
Santana may or may not be protected in the lineup by Jordan Brown.

I may or may not desire a ham sandwich.

by FredOx on Jun 9, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

He also says Cord Phelps has been moved up to Columbus. Presumably taking Anderson Hernandez’s spot.

by APV on Jun 9, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cord Phelps comment is at least well-supported. The Aeros griped about Tony not doffing his cap to them, not realizing that source attribution isn’t really in Tony’s toolbag.

by FredOx on Jun 9, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should promote and start Santana vs. Strasburg.

by Jay on Jun 9, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Profit!

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History is made at night. Character is what you are in the dark.

by vbc3 on Jun 9, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That might encourage more Indians’ fans to come – they might not be that interested in Strasburg because he’s not an Indians (some might even say, "The Indians didn’t get him – bad Indians management, blah, blah, blah), but the fact that we do have Santana, and most Indians’ fans have at least heard a word or two about him, that could entice some more fans to come out to the park on Sunday.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jun 9, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still, the Indians may want to introduce Santana to a less “intense” environment to start off his ML career, rather than facing a highly-touted phenom who virtually everyone in the country is following.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Jun 9, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had this conversation with a Yankees fan today. “Just one game! It would be great!” I didn’t disagree.

Though I look right at home, I still feel like an exile

by Manhattan Tribe Fan on Jun 9, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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