Heyman: Jhonny has 'very little value'

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Stern but fair.

by jhon on Jul 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions

So we destroyed all his value by moving him from SS? Who could have seen this coming? Oh wait…..

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by Joe. on Jul 20, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions

We’re responsible for destroying Jhonny’s value? I hope this is sarcasm of the highest order.

by dgcambridge on Jul 20, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope, I still think this is a better team with Peralta still playing SS, Asdrubal at 2b, and Marte at 3b.

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by Joe. on Jul 20, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, if there’s a GM out there that shares your view, he is welcome to take Jhonny and some cash for a trinket or two.

by dgcambridge on Jul 20, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions

But my point is, there almost assuredly isn’t anymore.

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by Joe. on Jul 20, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Well, I think they probably moved him off SS too late, not too early. I also think that other GMs aren’t so beholden to our showcasing. Like I said, if someone thinks that Jhonny might still have value at short, he can test it for cheap.

by dgcambridge on Jul 20, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions

I think almost all GMs would be hesitant to trade for a shortstop who is renowned for having poor range. Jhonny hasn’t put up the numbers to make his defense at SS acceptable since, what, 2007? Establishing him as a solid or plus defender at 3B was the only hope to resuscitate his value, to us or to anyone else.

by Jay on Jul 20, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions

And guess what? He’s been equally crappy at 3B. If you give UZR any credence, he was well above average at short last year, and improved every year he played.

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by Joe. on Jul 21, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions

All that means is that this value gambit has not worked out. It doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a good idea. Lots of folks thought Jhonny would make a fine 3B and very possibly an above-average one. He certainly has the hands and the arm for the job, but one suspects that he hasn’t quite thrown himself into mastering it.

by Jay on Jul 21, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions

And, he hasn’t hit.

by MTF on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

The pitching staff prefers not to have two inanimate objects in the middle of the field.

by xrickx on Jul 20, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions

If Fat SS had stayed at SS until now and was hitting this way, with his history of D at SS, I am quite confident that his value would probably be similar.

by Roger Dorn on Jul 20, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs

Disagree.

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by Joe. on Jul 21, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions

why? the only reason people are ok with a SS hitting worse than a third baseman is because short stops generally play good defense. If he’s an even worse fielder than he is a hitter, why showcase that at short for everyone to see?

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by notthatnoise on Jul 22, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions