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To Tigers for Pitcher Giovanni Soto. Per Castro's Twitter. More to come, I'm sure.

[UPDATE]: The Indians also sent some cash to Detroit. To take Peralta's spot, the Indians have recalled Luis Valbuena from Columbus. (Ryan)

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Perhaps it’s Giovany. Stats are here. Vaguely interesting.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

This just made my night.

Anything in life is possible, except for skiing through revolving doors.

by MooneysRebellion on Jul 28, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Only time KG has mentioned him, May 25:

Giovany Soto, LHP, Tigers (Low-A West Michigan): 7 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 6 K. Fantastic command and good secondary pitches; if velocity projects like some scouts think it will, he could turn into something.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Also June 17. Uncertain spelling.

Giovanni Soto, LHP, Tigers (Low-A West Michigan): 9 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K. Doesn’t get out of the upper-80s (yet), but young, projectable and has quality secondary pitches and command.

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The kid only weighs a 155, so I figure he can probably add some mph’s as they get him a) eating and b) in the weight room.

Anything in life is possible, except for skiing through revolving doors.

by MooneysRebellion on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s KG quoting a scout on the “super skinny” Soto:

“He’s 85-88 mph and throwing four pitches with a curve, slider, and change—none of them are really good right now, but you can’t eliminate any of them, either. I hate projecting velocity, but this is the kind of guy you look for when doing it.”

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This makes a lot more sense now.

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by Joe. on Jul 28, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick math tells me he has a +36 Net this year.

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Another report on this Soto.

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

That report seems, umm, a little amateurish, yes?

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely. But it does have a litte video.

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB network says that the Indians also sent cash to Detroit.

by Ryan on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Makes sense. I didn’t think we would actually get such good value for Peralta.

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by Joe. on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

At first I thought we got the Cubs’ catcher, and I was completely confused.

Also! THE MARTE ERA BEGINS NOW!

Eh? Eh?

by Chemo on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, this is awesome on multiple levels.

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by Joe. on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean the Goedert era

by Roger Dorn on Jul 28, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chisenhall? In 2012 though probably.

We are all witnesses... to a traitor.

by emily522 on Jul 29, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, okay.

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by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

d’oh—repetition fail.

by westbrook on Jul 28, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB Network just posted a graphic showing Jhonny’s declining batting average from year to year. The title of the graphic?

“PREPARE TO WIN.”

by Chemo on Jul 28, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Valbuena was recalled, so it looks like Marte will get some run at third.

by Ryan on Jul 28, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

At least until rosters expand, I guess.

by MTF on Jul 28, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soto’s 19, with a 3:1 SO:BB ratio and 8.3 K/9. He may never be anything, but he’s more than I expected to get for Jhonny.

by FredOx on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah I’m stoked about the return. There’s a chance he could amount to something. And a chance not. But there’s a chance of something good.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 28, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

VB’s final line in AAA is the cartoonish .313/.427/.604 with 21 Ks, 19 BBs. Also had eight 2bs, a triple, and six homeruns. Last year he went for a .917 in Columbus. I’d say he’s done there.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, he’s officially a guy I am extremely interested in going forward.

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by Joe. on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

where the heck are we supposed to put him?

by westbrook on Jul 28, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, .975 last year.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

New plan: convince LV that he’s still in Columbus. Replace the PD with the Dispatch. Talk about the Buckeyes a lot. Do other stuff I would know about if I’d been to Columbus more recently than 1988.

by FredOx on Jul 28, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

SHOP! EAT! SHOP! EAT!

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dispatch, check. All Buckeyes, all the time, check. Different mayor, but still an absolute idiot.

by DuffyMan on Jul 28, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait … you didn’t think Greg Lashutka was all that?

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jul 28, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Near-daily briefings on school funding issues should help.

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, he totally flummoxed Lake County a couple of days after turning 19, so there’s that.

by FredOx on Jul 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

MLB Network is drivel right now. Jhonny is an RBI machine. Moving to Detroit is going to inspire him to come alive. “When you look at the Tigers’ offense compared to the Indians’ offense, that’s worlds of difference.”

by Chemo on Jul 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, now maybe he’ll run into one.

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let’s be more like ESPN!

by Roger Dorn on Jul 28, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was never one of my favorites, but this still makes me sad.

by ASP on Jul 28, 2010 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m neither sad nor gleeful. This marriage was over a long time ago.

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There just wasn’t enough passion.

by Chemo on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree, but there’s 7 million reasons to do this deal (not that the club was ever going to exercise that option).

by FredOx on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this is where I’m at too. A part of me is gonna miss the big lug: “trouble to see the ball” and all.

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by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

my veezhun is now twanny twanny

by westbrook on Jul 28, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that he sounded kinda like The Cheat impersonating Homestar Runner when he said that never ceased to crack me the hell up.

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by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much time wasted here defending the guy along with so many others. He’s obviously not very good, but he’ll always have a place in my heart.

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by Joe. on Jul 28, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So he’s 6’3’’ and 155 lbs.? Is that correct? I mean I can tell he’s a skinny dude from that video posted above, but that can’t be a healthy weight for that height.

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by Joe. on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I was 6’3, ~160lbs ages 16-21.

Curiously, I was 160lbs since about age 10.

I am no longer 160lbs.

by gte619n on Jul 28, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m 5’9" and 155 lbs, and everybody tells me that I look unhealthily skinny. So, yeah, I’d say this guy needs to gain some weight.

by Chemo on Jul 28, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They pulled off the trade to get Raffy P a workout buddy

by supermarioelia on Jul 28, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think about how skinny Raffy is. Now imagine someone at his height that is 40 lbs. lighter.

/shudders

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by Joe. on Jul 28, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cripes that is skinny. I’m picturing this guy as having Jeremy Sowers’ leg for a torso.

by supermarioelia on Jul 28, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BMI has that listed as a normal weight, but on the lighter side of normal weight. Granted, I have stopped trusting BMI. I put in Sizemore’s weight and by BMI standards, he is technically overweight. Most athletes are overweight because if you are built at all, BMI says you are overweight.

Jim Brown for the browns is considered borderline Obese and your average DE in football (who usually have little body fat but are just really built) is morbidly obese and almost off the BMI chart.

I guess it is a decent weight for a normal person, but definitely skinny for any sort of athlete…but like I said, BMI sucks and even people who might be ‘normal weight’ should really weigh more.

I teach good life choices. That’s why I almost didn’t graduate High School.

I appreciate Male Beauty

by bross09 on Jul 29, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is pretty thin, but I was somewhere south of 150 with nuclear metabolism until I hit 30. It happens.

Granted, I never played pro ball, either.

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by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

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"Most players will tell you that even when they're 100%, they're not really 100% ... if that makes sense."

by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andy, this is it. Don’t get scared now.

by supermarioelia on Jul 28, 2010 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Can somebody photoshop FatJackAss out of this picture so I can enjoy this moment again?

by gte619n on Jul 28, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really does ruin it.

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to get all CC on you guys, but Grady is the only one left in that picture.

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Somebody should photoshop everybody BUT Grady out of the picture. Aww, hell, Grady’s out too.

by pdxtribefan on Jul 28, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine what CC will have to say in 2014.

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we can just switch his head with someone else who was on the team. Delucci? Michaels? Brodzoski?

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"Most players will tell you that even when they're 100%, they're not really 100% ... if that makes sense."

by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Gomez.

“Take empty batting average and sexify it”

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And then there was one.

Anything in life is possible, except for skiing through revolving doors.

by MooneysRebellion on Jul 28, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But who is the slightly visible fraction of a face next to Sizemore?

WHEN WILL THIS MASKED MAN BE EXPOSED?

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which Cosby clone is Franciscoaster?

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much the only place I’m going to miss Jhonny is in Andrew’s plays.

by Chemo on Jul 28, 2010 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I liked Jhonny more than most here.

Bug I knew he was a ghoner.

2010 is gonna be GREAT.

by Julie on Jul 28, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

sigh

But.

I’m not actually addressing an insect.

2010 is gonna be GREAT.

by Julie on Jul 28, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

All good. I call my daughter that all the time.

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome news. But let’s still remember the good times.

/sniff Same swing… Every time…. /sniff

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Jul 28, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Peralta’s high water mark the 3-run bomb off Delcarmen in the 2007 ALCS where he was looking good for MVP at that point. Fair thee well fat shortstop.

by cheech99 on Jul 28, 2010 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, that was awesome

by Roger Dorn on Jul 28, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Safe to say we aren’t starting at 7. This lightning is WOW.

by westbrook on Jul 28, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

God truly does not want Andy to succeed. I would not be surprised if the rest of the season were rained out.

by supermarioelia on Jul 28, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

we might have to start ST in February but at least we’d avoid more injuries.

by westbrook on Jul 28, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw the storm earlier. Should be furious but brief.

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should be furious but brief.

Ironic cobtradiction in a Peralta post…

by stuart dean on Jul 28, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Help me out with the contradiction part.

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jhonny was rarely furious?

by Chemo on Jul 28, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got it, but it’s more of an ironic parallel than a contradiction.

Yeah, in the final analysis Jhonny wasn’t one of the greats, but he had his moments.

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

JHONNY’S REACTION TO BEING TRADED :-|

I just want to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 28, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

long and drawn out vs. furious and brief

by stuart dean on Jul 28, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of like Jimmy Ray’s career.

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"Most players will tell you that even when they're 100%, they're not really 100% ... if that makes sense."

by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda like my wedding night … hoo ya!!!

by piersall on Jul 28, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Too bad we couldn’t get Charles Furbush.

But Soto is going to be a good one.

The Once and Future King

by FlaGators on Jul 28, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Peralta’s 2006 BP Annual comment. Makes me cringe:

If one discounts 2003, when Peralta was forced into the Indians` starting shortstop job well ahead of schedule due to an Omar Vizquel injury, one can see that his outstanding 2005 campaign simply continued the progress he has made at the plate since hitting Double-A in 2002. Handed the shortstop job in spring training, Peralta had nothing less than one of the 20 best seasons ever by a shortstop under the age of 24. In what should have been his rookie season, Peralta was a legitimate Gold Glove and MVP candidate who was overlooked for the former and shut out of the voting for the latter. He should be a cornerstone of this franchise for a long time.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha, I was just looking up his paragraph from Silver’s top 50 properties:

15. Jhonny Peralta, SS, Cleveland Indians (24)
We should recognize that career years don’t always come at age 27 or 28; 23-year-olds are capable of outperforming their skill sets as well. PECOTA is a little suspicious that this might have been the case with Peralta last year, and from the early returns this season, it looks like it might be onto something. Still, Peralta’s career should fall somewhere within the goalposts represented by Cal Ripken and Travis Fryman. Under most of those scenarios, he’ll be tremendously valuable to the Tribe.

Number 15. 15!

by dgcambridge on Jul 28, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d say he missed that field goal pretty wide.

by Jay on Jul 28, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jhonny Peralta is currently the #1 trending topic in the US on Twitter. You made it, kid, you made it.

EAT IT, BIEBER.

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Just wait til Kerry Wood gets his chance. Gonna blow the lid off the sucker.

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by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the WFNY guy (he who consistently calls Hafner “Hackner”) just broke out a “DUMBrowski.”

It’s like having CLECom personified on your twitter.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Where’s the cat who complained about Masterson versus Buchholz?

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same guy, probably. He is pretty predictable.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that WFNY, or just some other random blogger?

by Jay on Jul 28, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always think those guys work at a radio station.

by Roger Dorn on Jul 28, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never thought Jhonny would be the first player to go this year. If Jhonny got traded then Westbrook has to have decent value.

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Jul 28, 2010 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Branyan meant nothing to you.

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Psh

…you knew what this when we started Tinkerbell…

"sometimes the internet is hard for me." - ClemsonGirl

by world dictator on Jul 28, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who’d we get for Branyan anyway?

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two decent players, surprisingly. I haven’t kept up on the lower level one, but the CF in AAA (…Cabrera? Carrera?) is coming around last I checked. Automatically leap frogs Constanza, I’d assume, behind Crowe/Brantley.

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carrera is the CF and he’s already 40’d, so ahead of Constanza.

The other one, Juan Diaz, struck out like 10 times his first week.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only two strikeouts in his last ten games, though, with four walks. He has the higher ceiling of the two, right?

by JRontherim on Jul 28, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s assumed because he’s younger. Who really knows.

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jhonny Lasik! I love you man!

Speaking of which, this POST ranks as one of my all-time favorites… Truly worth another read.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 28, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I love that post.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was the first thing I thought of when I heard about the trade

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin

by Spidey on Jul 28, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for remembering that.

Being able to move one’s left arm is pivotal for a shortstop’s success in the field, because it helps him to position the glove directly in the path of a moving baseball.

This sentence arguably is my finest piece of baseball analysis.

by Jay on Jul 28, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cautious enthusiasm seems the general reaction on BYB so far (link).

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by vbc3 on Jul 28, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Goldstein just tweeted that he is writing up an analysis which, in itself, says something about the way Soto’s regarded. So, yeah, there’s some value here.

by afh4 on Jul 28, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Cord Phelps just homered.

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Good luck Jhonny. I’ll always remember 2005 and the 2007 playoffs and other good times. I’m glad we got something in return that could some day amount to something. Good luck to us.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 28, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

The fact that they are 2 professional baseball players named Giovany/Geovany Soto is pretty amazing. Also! We should immediately trade him to the Cubs so there’s the potential that he could pitch to himself in the future.

Blake: Thanks to you, I am damaged beyond repair!!

by emd2k3 on Jul 28, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Item: in major league baseball during the past 100 years, there have been an equal number of Joe Smiths and G(i)(e)ovany Sotos.

From, Ben

by bentausig on Jul 28, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of like when there were two Billy Bean(e)s.

by SuddenSam on Jul 28, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a while I thought that Beane was the one who came out.

by jhon on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that until you posted this. So the GM of the A’s is not the outed gay one?
I didn’t know there were two.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he’s just a good dresser.

by Jay on Jul 28, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. Well there ya go.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 29, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bean wasn’t outed. He came out.

by jhon on Jul 29, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

And no one cared.

by jhon on Jul 29, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I meant ‘self-outed’ but anyway.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 29, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe “the one who came out” is the correct nomenclature.

by Jay on Jul 29, 2010 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Duly noted.

In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).

by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 29, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he invented the high five (no joke).

by JulioBernazard on Jul 29, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

For real???

by jhon on Jul 29, 2010 11:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry, it was the other out player.

by JulioBernazard on Jul 29, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wikipedia’d the High Five. It sounds like the Louisville Cardinals of 1980 deserve most of the credit.

The low 5 is cooler anyway.

by jhon on Jul 29, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part of me is sad to see fat shortstop go. Mostly good memories, although generally meh ones these past few years. I can honestly say I wish nothing but the best for him (the best being someone to light a fire under his arse).

That said, time to move on… I’d also say this is Marte’s Last Chance, Part VIII. His next one will have to be with another team.

I just want to believe.

by mjmarble on Jul 28, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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