Game 102: Yankees 11, Indians 4
Fausto Carmona's short outing yesterday essentially cost the Indians a chance of staying in this game. A day after the Indians' bullpen pitched 6.1 innings, Mitch Talbot had to leave in the third with a muscle strain in his back. The Indians are classifying Talbot's status as day-to-day, but the injury was a crushing blow to the team's chances not only in this game, but will have lingering effects in this weekend's series in Toronto.
Because Hector Ambriz and Jess Todd had gone multiple innings the night before, Rafael Perez relieved Talbot in the third. Perez got the Indians through two innings, then handed the ball to Frank Herrmann. Up to this point, the Yankees had threatened to blow the game open almost every inning, only to be denied. Frankly, it was amazing that the Indians were still in this game by the time the sixth inning started. Tony Sipp was brought on to stem yet another New York rally, and got Gardner and Curtis. Next up was Derek Jeter, and with a base open and Curtis Granderson on deck, it seemed a perfect time to pass on Jeter in favor of the left-on-left matchup. But Acta opted to have Sipp pitch to Jeter, and the move backfired when Sipp threw a pitch over the middle of the plate; Jeter singled home the go-ahead run, making the score 2-1.
To this point, the Indians had gotten away with using their relievers in either unaccustomed roles or unaccustomed lengths of outs. Sipp. who had made a lot of pitches to get out of the sixth, did retire the first two batters of the seventh, and matched up against Robinson Cano. Cano turned on a Sipp offering and hit it out of the park. That seemed to exhaust Sipp's last bit of energy, for he walked the next two batters and was pulled in favor of Joe Smith, who would get the Indians out of the inning, but not before allowing six more runs to score.
Jess Todd would barely get out of the eighth, having surrendered two runs. He'd thrown two innings the night before, and was obviously gassed. That left Hector Ambriz, who had thrown 40 pitches the night before, and closer Chris Perez, who had thrown in three of the four previous games. Manny Acta made a decision that managers never like to make; he called on a position player to pitch the ninth. His choice? Andy Marte, who had earlier than night "lost out" on the third base job to Jayson Nix. Now by this time the Yankees had emptied their bench, and wasn't exactly concentrating on the top of the ninth, but Marte retired the Yankees in order, including Nick Swisher on a strike out. Marte actually looked like a pitcher, and threw his fastball in the mid-80s. Marte was the first Indians position player to pitch in a game since 2004, when Tim Laker took one for the team during a game against Kansas City.
Perhaps buoyed by that bit of levity, the Indians would scored three runs in the bottom of the ninth off Chan Ho Park, and if Luis Valbuena had managed to hit a three-run homer, would have made the game interesting. But there were no miracles in store tonight, and the Indians will head to Toronto praying that their starters this weekend can go at least six innings to avoid a long-term problem. And that's assuming Jess Todd will be swapped out for a fresh arm between now and tomorrow night.
Oh, yeah...in the midst of all that offense, Alex Rodriguez failed to hit his 600th home run.

| Highest WPA | Lowest WPA | ||
| Rafael Perez | .112 | Tony Sipp | -.193 |
| Asdrubal Cabrera | .074 | Joe Smith | -.185 |
| Frank Hermann | .038 | Shin-Soo Choo | -.122 |
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I’ve contacted ESPN about the possibility of a 1-hour television special to announce that I’m taking my 600th home run to South Beach.
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by woodsmeister on Jul 30, 2010 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Acta: "He was very poised. He pounded the strike zone. He’s the poster boy for what we want—pitchers throwing strikes."
Castrovince: “Next year’s Indians media guide cover photo?”

by jayme on Jul 30, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Andy Marte 1B/3B/RP/C (ceremonial first pitches). Also D (dominoes).
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by woodsmeister on Jul 30, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No idea if this will link to the right place, but here it goes…
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/pfx.php?month=7&day=29&year=2010&game=gid_2010_07_29_nyamlb_clemlb_1%2F&pitchSel=429708&prevGame=gid_2010_07_29_nyamlb_clemlb_1%2F&prevDate=729
he was only 1-3 for first pitch strikes, needs to improve that.
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
by notthatnoise on Jul 30, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
So after he got warmed up a little, he was sitting more comfortably in the Sowers range of fastball velocity?
Maybe he planned that sloping effect to throw off the hitters. Just as they get accustomed to the fastball, he increases its speed with each at bat. Imagine if he came out for another inning…
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Jul 30, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I bailed on a game that ANDY MARTE pitched in? Real life sucks.
Based on the game thread, Andy BARELY threw slower than Jensen Lewis circa-2008.
Well, nobody can say he doesn’t rise to the opportunity anymore.
by Jay on Jul 30, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Yep. He definitely jumped the shark tank.
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by Ockus_NYC on Jul 30, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I’m thinking Marte could be a kind of reverse Rick Ankiel reclamation project, now.
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by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 30, 2010 11:57 AM EDT reply actions
MLB precedent: Brooks Kieschnick. .220/.297/.405 in about 200 PA over four seasons. Then spent a year in AAA, compiling a 2.59 ERA over 31 IP. Came back to the majors as a pitcher, throwing 96 IP over two seasons, with a 4.59 ERA. Kind of a mediocre reliever, but he did have a .870 OPS as a pitcher.
Not that I think Marte should become a pitcher.
It would probably be a better strategy for an NL player.
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by Denver Tribe Fan on Jul 30, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s reach back a little further, how about Raffie Betancourt? or, for Tribe fans that have been Tribe fans so long they’re dead, Bob Lemon? It’s been done before.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
Josh Rodriguez with 2 HR last night for Columbus, and Alex White struck out 8 in 5.1 innings for Akron.
Mahoning Valley had 2 hits last night.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
Having Ks, as you point out, doesn’t guarantee future success, but not having them sure goes a lot farther towards a guarantee of future failure.
Come on, four billion!
But then there’s always guys like this who’s a first round ballot shoo-in.
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I would submit that Maddux was an exterme outlier. Successful pitchers with good strikeout numbers are more common, and good K numbers in the minors more often portend major league success.
Come on, four billion!
And I would submit that the Indians hafta find the outliers, since it’s so easy to identify the strike out guys. These are the guys that are gone early in the draft – big money – or signed for big dollars from the Latin clubs.
This is the jist of how the Indians hafta be smarter and work harder than the Yankees and Red Sox of the world. Any idiot – like Cashman – can read a stat sheet and see who has the highest K/9 stat. What the Tribe’s FO hasta do is find those hidden gems with 6.2K/9 inning guys who can pitch.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
And I would submit that the Indians hafta find the outliers,
This is probably a valid point, but
Any idiot – like Cashman – can read a stat sheet and see who has the highest K/9 stat. What the Tribe’s FO hasta do is find those hidden gems with 6.2K/9 inning guys who can pitch.
feels like saying that any idiot can read a stat sheet and see who has the most HR, so the Tribe needs to find guys who slug .400 in the minors but can hit.
In other words, you’re throwing out the future-success-is-hinted-at-by-a-high-K/9 baby with the Maddux-like-outlier bath water. The hope that some low K/9 could become successful doesn’t mean we should keep stockpiling the high K/9 guys who are more likely to succeed.
Come on, four billion!
The three true outcome predictors for a pitcher are strikeouts, walks, and home runs. Maddux had four different seasons with a K/BB better than six. Six! He also never gave up home runs.
So no, Maddux is no outlier. Any idiot — like Cashman — could look at his K/BB rates and home run rates and say that this is one of the best pitchers in the game.
So I guess it’s hopeless, since discoverying a potentially great pitcher is little more than “analyzing” three stats.
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Obviously that’s not so. I think the trick is in identifying a good player before they’re putting up 8-strikeout games in AA, because at that point everybody knows he’s good. I’m simply responding to the fact that you were turning up your nose at people excited by K’s.
Not exactly “turning up my nose”. What I’m saying is that you’ve reduced discovering a great pitcher to obsurdity. Plenty – plenty – of high strike-out pithchers get shelled in the Majors. Hell, look at Wood. Great pitcher to 5 outta 6 batters, the problem is that sixth guy keeps taggin’ him for that XBH.
The point is, if it were’ this easy to pick out a potential ML star even I could do it.
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‘Olney "The Indians are getting significant hits on Westbrook and are sorting through things. STL a fit? We’ll see."
We would probably have to include Hafner.
by DuffBeer on Jul 30, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve always wondered why they call it an “inverted W” rather than just calling it an “M.”
I have been complimented many times and they always embarrass me; I always feel that they have not said enough.
It has to allude to ‘the W,’ the most important pitching stat.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 1, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
You know what I gotta out this series? We’ve got an awful lot of work to do if we’re gonna catch up with the Yankees.
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We hafta stop using that excuse. We’ll never, ever catch the Big Revenue clubs in income. If you truly believe that we can’t over come the money gap – like San Diego and Tampa – then you hafta believe that we’ll never win another WS. I refuse to believe this.
Resident LGT results-oriented boob.
It’s not an excuse, it’s reality. Anyway, I think you misunderstand me. We’re obviously not going to catch the big revenue clubs on income, so we have to find a way to do $150 million dollars worth of work for significantly less than that. So we buy out arbitrations, trade older guys for several younger guys, and try to draft and develop cheap talent. You and I obviously both believe we can do this, or else we’re just here to hurt ourselves. It’s the DOLAN IS CHEEP! crowd that thinks spending $150 million is the only way to get $150 million worth of services.
Come on, four billion!

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