Game 115: Indians 4, Orioles 1
by xrickx on Aug 12, 2010 10:28 PM EDT
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PrintLGFT Kevin Millwood drew the start for the Orioles, a $12M veteran in the final year of his ill-advised, post-Cleveland deal. The Indians countered with 22-year-old Jeanmar Gomez, making his fourth career start.
Trevor Crowe hit fifth in today's lineup, one spot ahead of Matt LaPorta. Generally, batting order is largely irrelevant, but then again, so is Trevor Crowe – a perfect union, of sorts. In the first inning, with a man on second and third with two outs, Crowe attempted to bunt for a hit. The ball went foul, the count moved to 0-2, but Crowe worked the count full before legging out an RBI infield single to give
The Indians went up 2-0 in the second inning on a single by Jason Donald, followed immediately by a double by third-baseman de jour Andy Marte and an RBI groundout from Lou Marson. In the fifth, Shin-Soo Choo took a pitch off his recovered right hand, stayed in the game, and scored when Trevor Thome followed with a double off the base of the CF wall. 3-0 Tribe. Manny Acta, take another bow.
Gomez cruised through the first four innings, then hit a two-out hiccup in the fifth. Michael Brantley made a nice running catch on a Caesar Izturis dying liner to end the threat and the inning. Ty Wiggington’s two-out, RBI single in the sixth was the only
Rafael Perez came on to clean up the seventh, and he did so uneventfully. He stayed on for the eighth, and smooth defensive plays by Marte and Asdrubal on consecutive groundballs killed any hopes for an O’s rally. Asdrubal added an RBI single in the ninth. (Controlled) Pure Rage needed eight pitches (seven strikes) to pitch a 1-2-3 ninth for his 14th save. The Perez duo threw three innings of relief, needing 33 pitches, 28 for strikes.
After only two singles last night, the offense came alive tonight with 11 hits. Brantley finished the day 4-5 (all singles, but no complaints) and Asdrubal, Crowe, and Marte each added two hits.
Elsewhere, Carlos Carrasco pitched tonight for
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Can we all do game recaps??? Can we? That would be so cool, really good job x, and you know what? The mods wouldn’t have to work so hard either! We could hold a raffle, maybe a bake sale to earn enough points so we could do a recap. Well done!
I’d write a few ridiculously smart recaps and then hurt my LCL blocking a quote. But still finish the piece.
From, Ben
by bentausig on Aug 13, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’d be the Gregorio Rosario of recaps.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
by Roger Dorn on Aug 13, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would write incredibly awesome recaps, but CheapRyano would trade me to the Red Sox blog for a couple of lousy minor league commenters.
by Chemo on Aug 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Part Rage and Pure Rage with great relief work.
Love to see 0 walks from Jennmar. He’s holding up pretty remarkably considering how he performed this year in Triple A.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 13, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
DeRosa trade looking great. PRage throwing 97 mph bb’s. We don’t have anyone else like him.
I love how Gomez and Tomlin have stepped up. Who’d a thunk?
And, dare I say it, is Marte the 3B now?
I’ve been watching a lot more the past few weeks and I have to say, Marte’s D at 3B is very good. He has better range to his left than any third baseman we have thrown out there in a number of years.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
946 OPS in August! I’ll join the chorus of those who think he should be the everyday starter at 3B the rest of this year. Nix is a 2nd baseman, and Valbuena is not a MLB-caliber defender anywhere.
Let Goedert try and take away the job in ST.
[Marte] should be the everyday starter at 3B and spot reliever.
Fixed.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 13, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I should amend that: I don’t think that Valbuena is the 2Bman for this Indians GB-happy pitching staff, third worst in the AL in ERA, in H/9, and in WHIP; worst in the league in BB% and SO%, and yet which is tops in GB% and has induced by a comfortable margin the most DPs in the league. It’s a staff that would benefit far more than most from having stellar IF defense. Nix seems, from my limited viewinig of him, to be able to make those rally-snuffing plays; Donald seems competent, and even to have improved as the season has progressed. LaPorta has begun to make some of those all-important scoops to save bad throws and save runs, and I’m liking what I’ve been seeing from him. LV doesn’t seem to me to be getting any better. If he OPSed 800, which his limited AAA numbers suggest is a possibility, he might make up for his defense, but then again, if he OPSed 800, I suppose you could move him to LF.
by YoDaddyWags on Aug 13, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Valbuena definitely has a problem. Donald seems comfortably ahead, and I think the front office might even feel more comfortable with Nix because of the defense.
Then factor in Phelps and Kipnis, and you could conclude that Valbuena needs to make a statement pretty soon, even though he is still fairly young.
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
I love Donald and everything, but there is no way he has Valbuena’s offensive upside.
LGT's resident moderate Yankee hating fan.
Have you seen Valbuena’s AAA numbers? Donald has nothing close to that and he’s older.
LGT's resident moderate Yankee hating fan.
I’m not sure I can agree with your conclusion, though. Valbuena hasn’t played many games at AAA, period, especially outside of his demotion this year.
I do know that Donald has been league average in the majors this year as a hitter, something that Valbuena hasn’t done. Can Valbuena be the better hitter? Sure. But to say there’s no way Donald can match Valbuena is a bit of an overstep.
Steel Nick
Donald is 15 months older. It’s significant, but these guys are in the majors now.
They’ve both played about 100 games in Triple-A, and Valbuena leads decisively in OPS, 862-711. Donald, however, was struggling to come back from an injury for half of those games. Look at his performance in 2007, 2008 and 2010, and it’s easy to see that 2009 is the outlier.
Valbuena has played 100 more games than Donald in Double-A, and at that level, it’s Donald with the decisive lead, 889-751. Granted, in his last stint, a year older, Valbuena did post an 864.
In any event, I think it’s a mistake to assume that Donald can’t match Valbuena’s upside as a pure hitter. The bigger difference is that Donald is a better defender.
My take on Valbuena is that he’s not a good enough defender out there that we can give him any kind of a free pass on his bat. He’s got to be winning a job with his bat, and while we’ve all seen some kind of potential in the way he can rope the ball and in his minor league numbers, he hasn’t given any sign of being able to hit in the majors. Donald is a better defender and a better hitter, and Nix may be no worse than Valbuena on both sides of the plate.
I’m liking the guest host recaps. Unlike the Indians, we have a deep bench.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Aug 13, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Do you mean that you are directing all of your irrational optimism for the Tribe to Gomez? Or are you saving it, letting the optimism build, before erupting after he repeats this performance for the rest of the season?
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 13, 2010 8:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just that I allow myself to believe he could be a real big league pitcher. Still skeptical of Marte et al.
But Marte is already a big league pitcher!
by emd2k3 on Aug 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If it didn’t mean I would lose a year of my life and everything else that goes with it, I would find a way to travel immediately forward to 2012.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge..." C. Darwin
by Spidey on Aug 13, 2010 7:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That’s a shame, missing the World Series parade and all. And that fight in July of ‘11 when Santana breaks Pedroia’s rib.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Aug 13, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Even assuming a 10 game suspension for this, it’d come cheap. READ THIS, SHAPIRO!
Il faut d'abord durer.
It’ll be more than 10 games, since Pedroia was already on the ground and Santana just kept on kicking him.
by Jay on Aug 14, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
LGFT Update: Jake Westbrook RATBOPing 1590 in two starts for the Redbirds (with game RATBOPs
of 1552 and 1630). Westbrook had a 1472 RATBOP for the Tribe, which was an above-average tally
IN
THE
AL
CENTRAL.
Jake starts tonight, I think.
What is Gomez’s RATBOP now for a reference point?
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
’Gonna need the RATB formula, Wags.
by jhon on Aug 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m catching up with history; I’ll try and post all the AL Central division RATBOPS through July sometime in the next week, with a discussion of methodology then.
by YoDaddyWags on Aug 13, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, WTF is RATBOP?
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 13, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope I learn me some math in grad school
Where's your crown, KIng Nothing?
by Turkmenbashi on Aug 13, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Re-reading the link Westy provided, I think we could start to incorporate it for relievers by making a sidekick stat for per inning RATBOP. The difficulty of course would be how to factor in inherited runners, any ideas on how you might go about that?
"I spoil a lot of people with my play." -Lebron James
Jay was working on something for inherited runners; maybe that can be incorporated here.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 13, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
This is tough. RATBOP works because there are absolutes involved with starting pitching. The ideal is that the pitcher record 27 outs (if achieved, the pitcher gets 1000 on the OP side of the ledger), and that no baserunner reaches base (for which the pitcher receives 1000; thus the maximum score—assuming no 10 inning performance—is 2000. So for starting pitchers, everyone is measured on the same scale. The Indians starters, through July: Gomez 1701, Tomlin 1585, Carmona 1507, Talbot 1487, Westbrook 1472,Masterson 1422, Huff 1356, Laffey 1355, and a team average of 1457. The AL Central average is something around 1470 (haven’t finished with everyone yet), and Pavano is tops with 1630.
But relievers! Every situation is different, what you’re asking each reliever to accomplish is different, and the importance of each batter faced varies wildly. It’s possible that the number you want is already there: RE24 has Pure Rage at 8.47 on the year, and No-longer-zombie Perez 4.12. At any rate, I think you’d have to figure in Leverage Index numbers. Maybe somehow combining the aLI with a ROTB figure, somehow. I’ll mull on this one.
Andy Marte – Victory Meme Update
Record when Andy Marte starts: 14-12
Record when Andy Marte does not start: 34-55
Record when Andy Marte plays baseball: 28-20
Record when Andy Marte plays dominoes:20-47
Andy’s line at 3B: .296/.350/.519 OPS+ = 130
Andy’s line at 1B: .132/.267/.237 OPS+ = 27
Usual SSS disclaimers apply. Batting lines are for 105 total PA at 1b/3b and do not include 8 PA as dh or ph.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
A gentleman never tells.
"If Brown is the answer, then you’re asking the wrong question." - Ryan
by woodsmeister on Aug 13, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Totally Unrelated Aside: Since when did Jared Weaver become awesome?
25 GS, 163 IP, 182K/41BB. 2.87ERA, 1.08 WHIP.
All this season, he’s been lights out. Very impressive.
I saw an article on fangraphs or some such website trying to equate him with Felix Hernandez. Based on past performance I scoff at that, and so I scoffed. But this year, I think Weaver is on a whole new level, and certainly validates that person’s argument with this year’s performance added to his career to date.
In the new Geico commercial, Marte sings "Let me be myself" on Wedge's front lawn (with the cavemen).
by V-Mart Shopper on Aug 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Another unrelated but Indians draft $$ starting to pour out, much more anticipated monday.
Signed 10th rounder JC Holt for $500k:
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